You can use this section for discussions concerning all aspects of science fiction. Talk about books, movies, etc. Thoughts of the day: Remember, Isaac may be watching! Message Lifetime: 90 days Each Forum consists of a message database with attached files. There are eight basic levels of user access: Zero, Read, Download, Write, Upload, Co-Op, Forum-Op, and Sysop. "Read" access means that you can read messages only; "Download" access means you can also download files; "Write" access allows you to write (or post) messages; "Upload" access means that you can also upload attachments, but that the Forum-Op must approve them for download; "Co-Op" uploads are "pre-approved". You have "Sysop" access to this Forum. Your Forum-Op is "Lythande". Please note: your account is charged 60 credits for each minute you spend in this Forum. In addition, you are given 300 credits each time you write a message, given 300 credits for each file uploaded, and not charged for each file downloaded. If a file you upload is approved for download, the Forum-Op might arrange for you to receive a bonus. All messages posted to this Forum are preserved indefinitely, until erased by the Forum-Op. Welcome, Sysop, to ScienceFiction: Science Fiction R ... Read messages W ... Write a message F ... Find messages T ... Teleconference S ... Select a new Forum ? ... Description of this Forum M ... Modify a message E ... Erase a message A ... Approve files (0 waiting) O ... Operations menu Select a letter from this list, or X to exit: flfff Date: Thursday, January 9, 1992 8:56pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Enchanter Msg#: 129854 To: Lythande *EXEMPT* Re: STARTREK. File: STARTREK. (Reply to #129705, Reply to #129593,*) (3 replies) It is done... Date: Friday, January 10, 1992 9:33am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Enchanter Msg#: 130073 To: Lythande *EXEMPT* Re: GALAXY.ANS File: GALAXY.ANS (Reply to #129941, Reply to #129901,*) (1 reply) Ok, here's the Enterprise(TNG). Date: Tuesday, January 14, 1992 5:31pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Enchanter Msg#: 131496 To: Lythande *EXEMPT* Re: swordfgh.ans File: SWORDFGH.ANS (Reply to #131430, Reply to #130073,*) (1 reply) Here's the all-famous SWORDFIGHT! Date: Tuesday, January 14, 1992 5:32pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Enchanter Msg#: 131497 To: Lythande *EXEMPT* Re: 1hswords.ans File: 1HSWORDS.ANS (Reply to #131430, Reply to #130073,*) Oh yes, and let's not forget, the one-handed swords. Date: Wednesday, January 15, 1992 11:14am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Enchanter Msg#: 131703 To: Lythande *EXEMPT* Re: warbird.ans File: WARBIRD.ANS (Reply to #131694, Reply to #131496,*) (1 reply) Here's my rendering of a Romulan WarBird. Date: Friday, March 6, 1992 3:59am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Kali Msg#: 155172 To: Lythande *EXEMPT* Re: Stupid Trek Ideas They Didn't ZDo (Reply to #153208, Reply to #153167,*) (6 replies) But can't you picture a ST-TNG version of "Bohemian Rhapsody"? WORF: "I'm just a Klingon, nobody loves me... CHORUS: "He's just a Klingon raised in the UFP Give him a phaser and send him to Security..." or perhaps this, to the tune of "Piano Man" GUINAN: "And they sit by the wall and they drink synthehol and say, Whoopi, you fucked your career..." Or maybe even a version if "I Only Had A Brain": DATA: "If i only had a heart..." GEORDIE: "Some eyes..." WESLEY: "...The balls..." Shall i go on? Date: Saturday, March 14, 1992 11:22pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Atha Msg#: 160623 To: Kali *EXEMPT* Re: Heinlein Trivia (Reply to #160144, Reply to #158025,*) (2 replies) Funny how I wrote that "public servanct...public master" quote last week. this week, 400 members of Congress are out apologizing for spending money they didn't have. I wouldn't re-elect any one of them. Have you noticed that they are 400 congressmen with a single "Gee, that was dumb..." line? Is America to believe that NOT ONE of them was dishonest? Some Heinlein trivia fo you: Who was Deety? What is the Ganny quaver? why was Gramps upset at the onset of the Great War? What color was (is?) Maureen Smith's pubic hair, and how did (does?) Lazarus Long know? Who was Adam Selene? What's a 'paunshot', Uncle Gibbie? Date: Monday, March 16, 1992 2:34pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Kali Msg#: 161498 To: Atha *EXEMPT* Re: Heinlein Trivia (Reply to #161118, Reply to #160758,*) (2 replies) Oh, okay.... Lemme think. What was the name of Lazarus and Dora's firstborn? Who were the "lost Howards" Lazarus found on a slave planet? What is the genetic trait that Lazarus passes along to all his male descendants? Who were two of Friday's genetic parents, mentioned in an ealier story? What was the name of the religious sect Dawn Ardent came from originally? What's the name of Patty Paiwonski's snake? Shall I go on? Date: Friday, March 20, 1992 11:55am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Lythande Msg#: 164102 To: Kali *EXEMPT* Re: Heinlein Trivia (Reply to #163830, Reply to #162912,*) (2 replies) This is wierd! I don't remember every word of Heinlein books, but the names Joe and Gail Green ring no bells! BTW, one of my Heinlein friends (Morgaine or Sunder, I think) said that Friday's "mother was a test tube and father was a knife". This is true, of course, but not her genes..... Who were some of Minerva's "parents" Why was 'Dora kept a child? What made M.V. Smith laugh? Why did Ben Caxton run from the nest? What was Jubal's favorite statue - and why? Who made the best pilots in Starship Troopers? How did Llita try to pay back their "owner" What were the protagonists doing in Farnham's Freehold just before they headed to the bomb shelter? What did they do to Duke before he visited his mother? Which ship did Harriman take to the moon? What symbols did he propose putting on the moon? What was a dish served often at Ponse's table? (and, who was Ponce?) Enough? Date: Sunday, March 22, 1992 10:51pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Enchanter Msg#: 165725 To: Lazarus *EXEMPT* Re: GETALIFE. File: GETALIFE. (Fw by Lythande, Reply to #165111, R*) (2 replies) And if you thought he was good, check out this one. It's called "GETALIFE". Date: Sunday, March 29, 1992 5:32pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Enchanter Msg#: 169345 To: ** ALL ** *EXEMPT* Re: TrekMas (2 replies) 'Twas the night before Christmas, and all through the ship Not a circuit was buzzing, not one microchip; The phasers were hung in the arm'ry securely, In hope that no aliens would get up that early. The crewmen were nestled all snug in their bunks (Except for the few who were partying drunks); And Picard in his nightshirt and Bev in her lace, Had just settled down for a neat face-to-face... When out in the halls there arose such a racket, That we leapt from our beds, pulling on pants and jacket. Away to the lifts we all shot like a gun, Leapt into the cars and yelled loudly, "Deck One!". The bridge Red-Alert lights, which flashed through the din, Gave a luster of Hades to objects within. When, what, on the viewscreen, shold our eyes behold, But a weird kind of sleigh, and some geek who looked old. But the glint in his eyes was so strange and askew, That we knew in a moment it had to be Q. His sleigh grew much larger as closer he came. Then he zapped on the bridge and addressed us by name; "It's Riker! It's Data! It's Worf and Jean-Luc! It's Geordi! And Wesley, the genetic fluke! To the top of the bridge, to the top of the hall! Now float away, float away, float away all! As leaves in autum are whisked off the street, So the floor of the bridge came away from our feet, And up to the ceiling our bodies they flew, As the captian called out, "What the hell is this Q?!". The prankster just laughed and expanded his grin, And, snapping his fingers, he vanished again. As we took in our plight and were looking around, The spell was removed, and we crashed to the ground. Then Q, dressed in fur from his head to his toe, Appeared once again to continue the show. "That's enough!" cried the captian, "You'll stop this at once!", And Riker said, "Worf! Take your aim at this dunce!", "I'm deeply offended, Jean-Luc," replied Q. "I just wanted to spend Christmas with you." As we scoffed at his words, he produced a large sack. He dumped out the contents, and took a step back. "I've brought gifts," he said, "just to show I'm sincere. There's something delightful for everyone here." He sat on the floor and dug into the pile, And handed out gifts with his most charming smile. "For Counselor Troi, there's no need to explain, Here's Tylenol-Beta for all of your pain. For Worf I've got mints as his breath's not too great, And for Geordi LaForge, an inflatable date. For Wesley, some hormones, and Clearasil-Plus; For Data, a joke book; for Riker, a truss. For Beverly Crusher, there's sleek lingerie, And for Jean-Luc, the thrill of seeing her that way." Then he sprang to his feet with that grin on his face, And, clapping his hands, disappeared into space. But we heard him exclaim as he dwindled form sight, "Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good flight!!" Date: Monday, April 6, 1992 8:23am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Merlin Msg#: 173607 To: ** ALL ** *EXEMPT* Re: Isaac Asimov (4 replies) Jack Haldeman recently said something to the effect of "I thought that if anybody could make it out alive, it would be Isaac." Would that he had been right. Dr. Asimov has been in poor health for some time and a few days ago was admitted, once again, to the hospital. The prognosis was not good and this morning Isaac Asimov is dead at the age of 72. I had the opportunity to meet Dr. Asimov some years ago at a convention called Empiracon. I know that he would not have remembered me, but I was thrilled to be able to shake the hand of the man who wrote the Foundation Trilogy and so many other books, hundreds of them, both fiction and non-fiction. He was a wonderful speaker, his annecdotes and jokes always went over well. Interestingly enough, Isaac Asimov was one of the small handful of science fiction authors who refused to fly. To my knowledge, up until the day he died, he never took a plane anywhere. The last time I saw Asimov was at last year's Nebula awards. At the reception, he looked wan and tired, but at the speaker's podium, there was no sign of that. He seemed to be able to shake off his illness in order to make his presentation. A good man, a great writer, he will be missed by science fiction fans throughout the world. Date: Tuesday, August 4, 1992 9:28pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Enchanter Msg#: 225233 To: ** ALL ** *EXEMPT* Re: *MY* idea (5 replies) Since it's gonna take a hundred years to get us a writing forum SIG, I figured I'd let you all in on an idea I have on a story, probably one that'll never be implemented, seeing as I can no longer contain myself. In the...31st century, we'll say...a device is developed called the ARS(Alternate Reality Synthesizer). It creates alternate realities(ie, "dimensions" for those that like that word). These realities are neither "here" nor "there", but just "are". They don't really exist without the constant maintenance of the ARS machine, which has to keep a consistant energy flow into this other universe. The ARS is limited in the size of this other reality, since it itself must be of a certain size to generate it. It is guided by a computer, which must be equally powerful to deal with the task of maintaining the reality. This other Universe is a real living and breathing system, and not a "holodeck" type simulation. Therefore, its actions are not fully predictable. All the ARS can do is keep it going with whatever it has. The ARS saw immediate applications in many fields. I'll leave it up to your imaginations to figure them out. However, because of its enormous hunger for energy, it was always limited in that regard. Until, one day, in, we'll say, 3038, some rich bunch get together and decide to build the largest and most powerful ARS device ever. This will be a record size and will be able to synthesize an entire Earth-size PLANET reality! Something unheard of. They call this dimension, Uanga. To deal with the large computer system necessary, they use an AI, something considered too dangerous for such an undertaking(for obvious reasons). The actual device was built underground and was 12 square miles long, and drew power from 4 fusion reactors. These rich people, as many are, were somewhat eccentric, and decided to make some changes to Uanga. They made it a kind of magic-land, where magic functioned just as well as any science. Since the ARS could be controlled in such a way, this wasn't difficult. They did this, more for the sake of seeing what would happen than anything else. For about 20 years(we'll say), they intermitantly went into this universe(it was possible) as gods usually(since they called the shots on the laws of nature in this universe, they could pretty much do whatever they wanted there). Time passed on. After some time, Uanga was abandoned yet its power was not cut and it continued to function. It was never given any new orders on how it should proceed so it went on with what it was originally told -- create a world of magic, warriors, and other such intrigue until further notice. It was even told to periodically make-up "quests" in Uanga just for the sake of them. As time went on, Uanga(the AI), began to slowly think on its own, although it never changed its own path as its orders were given. It was now beginning to integrate with the beings that had come to exist within the world of Uanga itself, in a kind of subtle way, of course, never fully disclosing to the "people" of this world that they weren't real. It eventually came to the simultaneous conclusion, as did a certain person within the dimension, of how to FUSE reality and fantasy together. In other words, take the essentially imaginary Uanga, and make itself become REAL. This, to Uanga, was a kind of philosophical resolution of its own existence. As well as, symbolically, to the "people" of Uanga who, the first to enter reality, as we know it, was...someone who I'll decide on later. Here ends the tale. Most of the story is told from WITHIN Uanga itself, as if it was the only world OUT THERE, with vague references occasionally to the "force" that precipitates Uanga, that is, the AI. (Note, Uanga is both the name of the world and the AI) So, the "moral" of the story is something in the order of "When we discover what the universe is, we find it to be inside another." Maybe it's even too deep for me, and *I* thought of it! =) Am I making any sense here? Ridicule me if you like. Date: Wednesday, August 5, 1992 10:04pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Enchanter Msg#: 225805 To: Lythande *EXEMPT* Re: *MY* idea (Reply to #225649, Reply to #225470,*) (1 reply) Ok, you've instilled in me the drive. =) I'll start as soon as I finish my other one, which I'll continue as soon as summer classes end. Here's a brief synopsis of a PORTION of the tale: Razul was born into the royal family of Ankada -- his father Azul, his mother Enthiphra. Although the royal family of Ankada was human, Enthiphra was not. She was of a different "race" called the Eleion. They're of humanoid appearance except they have feline-like qualities. Enthiphra died soon after childbirth, although not because of it. She was killed by a jealous woman in the court of the Ankada royal family who desired Azul enough to do it. Tzhursa, as she was called, was a very powerful person in Ankada, and Azul knew his own child was in danger of her wrath. So he sent him away, to a far-away kingdom called Girnow. It was far away because it was underground, and inhabited by beings called, commonly, cave imps. They're really not a bad bunch, although scary at first sight. They are wingless, yet have very dark skin, yellowish eyes, a long prehensile tail, and three fingers on each limb. But the cave imps would have none of it and they refused to take the child in, except for one, Klix(short for an unpronouncible cave-imp name), who, an essential condemned person in the cave-imp society, took the child, Razul, in. However, he was forced into exile with the child, because he still had to receive punishment for his crime(which is never mentioned). He goes off with the kid and raises him as his own in the surface-world of Uanga. Razul soon finds he is not ordinary. As he grows, he finds that he has an amazing ability to move at great speeds, is very agile and dextrous, and tends to go into rages where he defies normal human strength. Eventually, Klix has to return to his world. His exile is over and he can come home. By this time, Razul is 20. (to be continued) Date: Friday, August 14, 1992 6:03pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Corrosion Msg#: 229709 To: ** ALL ** *EXEMPT* Re: Gun Control (Copy by Kali, Reply to #229253, Rep*) (2 replies) Heinlein! Heinlein!! HEINLEIN!! AAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIAAAGH! Welcome to the Heinlein BBS Please enter your handle> Heinlein Password: ROBERTA Our SIGS: /Heinlein Self-explanatory /TimEnuf4Luv Do you have... /RoadsRoll Rollin', rollin', rollin'... /DoorIn2Sumr /Stranger Feel like a ~ in a strange land again... /CatThruWalz Let's get weird! 4opbgu7 jiopu8potjk yopr356[oi70[95678n05-7hm-890567ghm-0956uh56h9yi56 569hmi4560u9hi45u-,0679uk,-09670huk6,907k0u9ibZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZAP! THIS TRANSMISSION HAS BEEN INTERCEPTED AND TERMINATED FOR THE SAKE OF THE SANITY OF THE OTHERS ON THIS BBS THANK YOU... All right, so I beat it to death. Date: Wednesday, October 14, 1992 5:51pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vibrantm Msg#: 242436 To: ** ALL ** *EXEMPT* Re: SFAUTHOR.ZIP File: SFAUTHOR.ZIP This is a lengthy file which contains a very detailed bibiograpy of science fiction authors. It was recently posted on another local BBS but seems to have no compilor/editor credits; I did not put it together so I want to be sure not to be seen claiming any credit here. Date: Saturday, December 5, 1992 4:13pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Merlin Msg#: 266628 To: ** ALL ** *EXEMPT* Re: Conventions Lists File: 266628.ATT (1 reply) Attached to this message is a file with information about a number of conventions which are coming up in '93. Philcon '93 is not on this list, yet (don't know why, though). Any questions, ask me and I'll see if I can get answers for you. Date: Tuesday, December 15, 1992 11:19pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Indranie Msg#: 273378 To: Lythande *EXEMPT* Re: parody.txt File: PARODY.TXT (Reply to #273271, Reply to #273249, Reply to #272948, R*) Thousand message! I warned you about that. You told me to go ahead and upload it. Make up your mind woman. Here's the *One* file, for easier reading. Date: Sunday, January 3, 1993 1:10am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Quincy Msg#: 281611 To: ** ALL ** *EXEMPT* Re: Orion_4.TXT File: ORION_4.TXT (1 reply) This is the latest story from my workshop in my head. It is a sci-fi story with sexual overtones, and thus, it has been U/Led to /Xrated as well. Enjoy! Quincy Date: Sunday, January 10, 1993 5:57pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Perpetual Dawn Msg#: 285245 To: ** ALL ** *EXEMPT* Re: Star Trek funnies (3 replies) DRINKING GAME RULES Have one sip of beer per successfully met condition Anybody: 'Open hailing frequencies' 'Medical emergency' 'Belay that order' 'Energise' 'Hell','Damn' and other swearing. See Rikers special swearing rules. Picard: 'Make it so' 'Engage' 'Come' - two if said in personal quarters 'Captain's log' - two if supplemental 'Proceed' 'Number One' Worf: 'Impressive' 'Admirable' 'Grrrrr' ( A simple sneer qualifies) Data: 'Fascinating' 'Accessing' DRINK WHENEVER: Riker swears - two drinks; three if it's 'hell'; whole beer if he asks 'what the hell is going on' Riker walks forward as if he's trying to knock an imaginary door down with his forehead. A female character has flawless makeup after she's been through the ringer. Picard straightens his uniform Data's innards are revealed Data uses his strength Data is cut off mid sentence - two drinks if it's a list of synonyms. Geordie's visor is taken or knocked off Beverly can't figure out some bizarre medical problem Deanna senses something really shocking Deanna gives us Betazoid insight into something really obvious O'Brien has a line (this gets brutal after the third season - weak drinkers may pass) A crew member drinks - two if it's Picard; three if it's Picard drinking tea; four if the tea is identified as Earl Grey. A bridge officer is shown in casual clothes (one drink per scene, per officer) = two drinks if it's Beverly in a sweater; two drinks if it's Picard in his chest revealing bedwear. A bridge officer appears in dress uniform (one drink per scene, per officer) Every time somebody is addressed by his or her first name - two if there's some kind of sexual tension going on. Every time they use transporter room three. A shuttle craft seems like an unsafe place to be. Somebody reads a book. Somebody preaches the Prime Directive - two if it's NOT Picard Somebody preaches about Humanity's Unique Potential Picard has an accident or is attacked - two drink; three if it draws blood Picard is possessed - four drinks An 'old earth saying' is brought up - two if Data has to have it explained to him. Patrick Stewart tries to speak French Wesley talks back to his Mom. Somebody implies that Ten Forward is a Happening Place They fade for an advertisement playing the 'ominous horns' Klingon is spoken - two drinks per scene in which Klingons are alone and have no obvious reason to speak English but do anyway. Each scene in which a nifty new Romulan ship is shown There's a token alien in the background with no lines - two if it's a Vulcan. Yellow Alert - one drink Red Alert - two drinks Intruder Alert - three drinks Another Captain or Star Fleet Command officer is on screen. There's a countdown Every time a bridge command is handed over The Enterprise crew avoids a confrontation instead of blasting away. Each scene in which the Enterprise actually fights (shots must be fired) - two drinks. Whole beer whenever the saucer section separates. They contact somebody on the communicator/intercom without going to a panel or touching anything. A communicator isn't working or is blocked - two if it's out of range. New Trek contradicts a fact from Old Trek (Unfortunately, players may be too drunk to adjudicate this rule) You're thirsty -This game was designed and written by no attributable source. {ed Clearly a drinking game beyond the capacity of most humans.} ------------ ---------- (Article from Edinburgh University's MIDWEEK Student Magazine, by Graeme MacDonald.) 20 Things That Never Happen in "Star Trek" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 1. The Enterprise runs into a mysterious energy field of a type it has encountered several times before. 2. The Enterprise goes to visit a remote outpost of scientists, who are all perfectly alright. 3. Some of the crew visit the holodeck, and it works properly. 4. The crew of the Enterprise discover a totally new lifeform, which later turns out to be a rather well-known old lifeform wearing a funny hat. 5. The crew ofthe Enterprise are struck by a mysterious plague, for which the only cure can be found in the well-stocked Enterprise sick-bay. 6.The Captain has to make a difficult decision about a less advanced people which is made a great deal easier by the Starfleet Prime Directive. 7. The Enterprise successfully ferries an alien VIP from one place to another without serious incident. 8. An enigmatic being composed of pure energy attempts to interface to the Enterprise's computer, only to find out that it has forgotten to bring the right leads. 9. A power surge on the Bridge is rapidly and correctly diagnosed as a faulty capacitor by the highly-trained and competent engineering staff. 10. The Enterprise is captured by a vastly superior alien intelligence which does not put them on trial. 11. The Enterprise is captured by a vastly inferior alien intelligence which they easily pacify by offering it some sweeties. 12. The Enterprise visits an earth-type planet called "Paradise" where everyone is happy all of the time. However, everything is soon revealed to be exactly what it seems. 13. A major Starfleet emergency breaks out near the Enterprise, but fortunately some other ships in the area are able to deal with it to everyone's satisfaction. 14. The Enterprise is involved in a bizarre time-warp experience which is in some way unconnected with the Late 20th Century. 15. Kirk (or Riker) falls in love with a woman on a planet he visits, and isn't tragically separated from her at the end of the episode. 16. Counsellor Troi states something other than the blindingly obvious. 17. The warp engines start playing up a bit, but seem to sort themselves out after a while without any intervention from boy genius Wesley Crusher. 18. Wesley Crusher gets beaten up by his classmates for being a smarmy git, and consequently has a go at making some friends of his own age for a change. 19. Spock (or Data) is fired from his high-ranking position for not being able to understand the most basic nuances of about one in three sentences that anyone says to him. 20. Most things that are new or in some way unexpected. But we still love it, right kids? ------------ Date: Tuesday, January 26, 1993 10:28pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Indranie Msg#: 296342 To: ** ALL ** *EXEMPT* Re: Liberty Science Center (3 replies) Did anyone went to the opening of the Liberty Science Center in New Jersey? -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- 250 fascinating and entertainting interactive science exhibits and the world's largest Omnimax movies theater. The planetarium-style theather's wrap-around screen is as big as an eight-story building. Guys: Try on the Pregnancy Empathy Vest, which has a large bosom amd a distended stomach with an appropriate weight to discover what it feels like to be eight months pregnant. The Library Science Center is a savvy educational facility whose game plan is to stimulate interest in science by making it fun. It's a primary learning center where guests are encouraged to learn through doing and touching. Guests: Allowed to touch and handle everything from huge centipedes with Velcrolike feet in the Bug Zoo, to the steering wheel of an impeared-driver simulator that shows the player what it would be like to drive a car while drunk or stoned. And Much More............. Admission: Adult ($8), student/seniors ($7), children, ages 5-12 ($5) Exhibits are open Tuesday - Thursday 9:30 a.m. to 5:30 p.m. Friday - Sunday and holidays, 9:30 a.m. to 6:30 p.m. Information 201-200-1000 By Car: Holland Tunnel to Exit 14B on the Jersey Turnpike (less than 3 miles). Bear left out of tolls, go down a little hill to a circle. Go left into Burma Road. Follow that to the center in less than half a mile. (Don't worry when you pass the center on the turnpike: You will be doubling back to it.) Parking $4:00. Date: Wednesday, April 7, 1993 7:36pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Alphabet City Msg#: 338133 To: ** ALL ** *EXEMPT* Re: insectvx.txt File: INSECTVX.TXT A little verse. Date: Sunday, May 16, 1993 7:51pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vibrantm Msg#: 358219 To: ** ALL ** *EXEMPT* Re: ASIMOV.BOK complete Isaac Asimov Book List File: ASIMOV.BOK (1 reply) Attached is a file listing all of Asimov's book length creations. It was compiled as a labor of love by a writer on Usenet's alt.books.isaac-asimov news group. Hats off to John H. Jenkins. Date: Thursday, September 9, 1993 6:26pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Merlin Msg#: 389883 To: ** ALL ** *EXEMPT* Re: Hugo Awards (2 replies) The 1993 Hugo Awards were distributed at a ceremony which took place on Saturday night at the Moscone Center in San Francisco. The recipients are as follows: BEST NOVEL: A Fire Upon the Deep (Vernor Vinge, Tor books) Doomsday Book (Connie Willis, Bantam books) This is the first time in over 25 years that there has been a tie in this category. The only other time that this occurred was in 1966, when Frank Herbert's DUNE and Roger Zelazny's THIS IMMORTAL shared the award. BEST NOVELLA: "Barnacle Bill the Spacer" by Lucius Shepard (Asimov's, July '92) BEST NOVELETTE: "The Nutcracker Coup" by Janet Kagan (Asimov's, December '92) BEST SHORT STORY: "Even the Queen" by Connie Willis (Asimov's, April '92) BEST NON-FICTION BOOK: A Wealth of Fable: An Informal History of Science Fiction Fandom in the 1950's (Harry Warner, Jr., SCIFI) BEST DRAMATIC PRESENTATION: "The Inner Light," an episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation BEST PROFESSIONAL EDITOR: Gardner Dozois (Asmov's) BEST PROFESSIONAL ARTIST: Don Maitz BEST ORIGINAL ARTWORK: Dinotopia (Janes Gurney, Turner) BEST SEMI-PROZINE: Science Fiction Chronicle (edited by Andrew Porter) BEST FANZINE: Mimosa, edited by Dick and Nicki Lynch BEST FAN WRITER: Dave Langford BEST FAN ARTIST Peggy Ranson JOHN W. CAMBELL AWARD FOR BEST NEW WRITER OF 1991-1992 (SPONSORED BY DELL MAGAZINES) [This is not a Hugo, but is given out at the same ceremony.] Laura Resnick (2nd year of eligibility) Date: Tuesday, September 21, 1993 12:15am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Scarlett Msg#: 393651 To: Conundrum *EXEMPT* Re: David Gerrold Primer (Reply to #393398, Reply to #392466, Reply to #392278) (3 replies) David Gerrold started his career by writing Star Trek's famous THE TROUBLE WITH TRIBBLES episode. Since then he's written some remarkable stuff in a narrative voice reminsicent of Heinlein's. Most of it is pretty character-oriented action/adventure: THE WAR AGAINST THE CHTORR A Matter for Men A Day for Damnation A Rage For Revenge A Season for Slaughter Though these titles sound almost comic-book like, this saga of an alien invasion of Earth is actually a very complex character study of the character it follows. It's also a terrific exercise in world-building. Gerrold creates a whole alien ecology that is quickly infesting and taking over the planet. Some wonderful stuff here. There are still a couple of other books coming in the series, but these four are =great= to begin with. The Man Who Folded Himself This book is by far the most intense exercise in time travel ever written. It addresses just about every existential paradox time travel might provoke and it's done in a relatively short novel. Also good stuff. When HARLIE Was One One of the first novels ever to address the issue of Artificial Intelligence in an intelligent, sensitive and thought-provoking way. Written in the sixties, the original novel was full of drugs and free love. IN the late eighties, Gerrold revamped the entire novel and it was published as When HARLIE Was One Release 2.0. It encompassed a more up-to-date approach to computers and to society without losing the heart and soul of the novel. Voyage Of The Starwolf Character-oriented space opera. There will be at least three books set in this universe, but each book will stand on its own as a separate adventure. Two more should be coming at some point next year. I didn't mean for this message to become a primer on Gerrold, but hey, I hope it's helpful. I recommend all his work. I find it truly compelling and addictive. His character stuff is especially strong and his technical creations are very convincing. Date: Monday, November 1, 1993 11:20pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Scarlett Msg#: 409802 To: ** ALL ** *EXEMPT* Re: World Fantasy Convention (3 replies) Just got back from the World Fantasy Convention. The winners of the World Fantasy Awards were: SPECIAL AWARD, NON-PROFESSIONAL: Doug & Tomi Lewis for Roadkill Press SPECIAL AWARD, PROFESSIONAL: Jeanne Cavelos, for editing at Dell Abyss ARTIST: JamesGurney SHORT STORY COLLECTION: (Not sure I remember properly...) ANTHOLOGY: Metahorror, edited by Dennis Etchison SHORT FICTION: "This Year's Class Picture," Still Dead: Book of the Dead 2, written by Dan Simmons, AND "Graves," Fantasy & Science Fiction, by Joe Haldeman NOVELLA: (Don't have this one either...) NOVEL: LAST CALL by Tim Powers The Special Lifetime Achievement Award was given to Harlan Ellison who, in his typically gracious fashion, referred to it as The Old Fuckers' Award, but who appeared to be genuinely gratified and pleased to have received it, nonetheless. In the course of doing business this weekend, i was able to spend time with Kij Johnson (author and editor), Yvonne Navarro (horror author), game designer and writer Michael A. Stackpole & his artist/s-o Liz Danforth, artist/writer Janny Wurts and her husband artist Don Maitz. Had banquet dinner with Stephen Donaldson, Pat McKillip, Cecelia Holland, Dan Simmons, Mike, Liz and Yvonne. Had the privilege of meeting Neil Gaiman and Roger Zelazny, and spending time with Harlan Ellison and his wife Susan, Dennis McKiernan, John Gregory Betancourt, Julius Schwartz, Esther Friesner, S.M. Stirling, Joe Haldeman, Kim Mohan, Charles N. Brown, Bill Fawcett and Jody Lynn Nye, John Ordover, Josepha Sherman, and, of course, Merlin and his wife. Personally and professionally the convention was a special success for me as the first story I ever sold has finally made print, appearing in a small press anthology called SWASHBUCKLING EDITOR STORIES. I signed copies of it and of GHOSTTIDE, the other anthology in which my work appears--a delightful and exciting experience. Date: Tuesday, February 15, 1994 2:22am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Conundrum Msg#: 447633 To: Alphabet City *EXEMPT* Re: SF Classics (Reply to #447614, Reply to #447439, Reply to #447248, R*) (1 reply) Hmmm. Now, that's a more interesting question, and something of a conundrum, as the field is still only recently in the minds of the academics, who oft prefer (not in individual, but in collective) to wait many years before coming to a conclusion about a work, especially one in such a new, and more often than not, blatantly popular field. However, if you include the self proclaimed "elite" of SF readers, I suppose I could list a few that are widespread among those thought to be of literate merit. Lord of the Rings (I refuse to differentiate between fantasy and Science Fiction, though I will differentiate between Hard SF and the rest of SF) has it's popularity on many levels. Aside from being the foundation of much of modern fantasy, and still exceedingly popular, it stands on it's own as an original literate work, and will most likely outlast the next few genarations of man. Gene Wolf's _Book of the New Sun_ (four paperback book, starting with _The Shadow of the Torturer) hits on many levels, and while the science is but a backdrop, the story, and the prose, is multilayered, and beautiful. R.A. Heinlien's _The Moon is a Harsh Mistress_ has it's flaws, but should need no introduction as one of the highlights of SF. Among other things, it succeeds where _Atlas Shrugged_ fails (I have no right to say this, having not yet read _AS_. Given comments I've from many, not least BS+RAW, I'll consider it valid until proven wrong). Having looked at the prior works and realized that as one whose favorite authors are often female, and often for their literary merit, I find it wanting not to have a book written by a woman on the list, I hereby insert my own entry, dispite having heard little of it from either academia or the "elite." Praticia A. Mckillip's _The_Forgotten Beasts of Eld_, is, in it's own way, as breathtaking a story as _The_Lord_of_the_Rings_. Rather than owing it's plot to the sagas and myths, it draws on the Farie tales, and other tales of heroes who however powerful the might be, were still human. There is little clear black and white, and rather than act to "save the world from the big bad guy," the characters are far more likeley to act to save themselves or their loved ones from themselves. It's a story of magic, and myth, and men and women and transformation all entwined, and only McKillip could weave her way to the root of it, and end it as she does. Not least, the prose is as beautiful as McKillip's prose (in her other and later books, _The Riddle Master of Hed_ trilogy, and one or two other singletons) allways is, filling the reader's mind with the imagery the story requires in order to work it's magic. Not to meantion that it's also a magnificent read:) Date: Tuesday, March 29, 1994 11:54am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Morgenes Msg#: 463515 To: ** ALL ** *EXEMPT* Re: In the world of Uanga (2 replies) I'm new here and I've read the suggestions (back in '92) of Enchanters. I like the idea and would like to submit the beginnings of a short. Lemme know what you guys/gals think! --- Edlar drew his hunting dagger and scanned the area carefully. He every little detail. The amount of trees, the height of the branches on those trees, the insects and the direction they are moving, and the unsuspecting prey. Stealthily, Edlar moved from his place of hiding closer to the deer. The deer's head shot up suddenly at the sound of a breaking twig. Edlar leapt out, dagger in hand, at it. Landing face down onto the ground, Edlar just missed the fleeing deer. Edlar let out a string of growling curses and spun around towards the sound of the breaking twig. Standing with one foot still in the air, Iklin blushed sheepishly. "Iklin! I should have known!" Edlar glared. "I's sorry, Edlar. I dinna mean it!" Edlar continued to glare at Iklin. Edlar couldn't really blame Iklin. Iklin is half Gnome and half Punliki. The Punliki are best describe as hedge hog lik e people. Neither Gnome or Punliki are known for their stealth or dexterity. But where Iklin lacked in dexterity and agility, he more than make up for in strength and endurance. Edlar stared at Iklin and realized that isn't the only advantage of Iklin. For some reason, Iklin as an amazing ability to "soften" any agressive feelings towards him. Edlar assumed it's one of those natural things that are developed the many beings on this planet. "Edlar? Waz wrong?" [B Edlar blinked and shook his head. He sheathed his dagger and moved back to his hiding place to gather his bag. Quickly and agily, Edlar lightly leaped over several branches. Edlar is half Eleion, quarter Elvish and quarter Human. Eleion is a cat like people endowed with agility, night sight and a heightened sense alerting them to danger. While the Elvish in his blood endowed him with dexterity, speed and infravision. Edlar, to this day, is still confused as to what his human ancestors has endowed him with. Edlar turned to Iklin's tapping of his shoulders. "Edlar? We's goin back to da village now?" Iklin asked with his largish brown eyes. "Yes.." Edlar sighed, "...back to the village." Iklin's nose twitched and his nearly invisible whiskers bobbed up and down. He turned towards the village and started to pump his short and stubby legs. "Race ya, Edlar!" Edlar shook his head and shouldered his pack. Edlar moved towards the village, walking. *** Peji quickly sheathed her shortsword and moved to the packs. Grabbing the scrolls and several small items she quickly glanced over her shoulder. The creatures moved closer. Peji ran as she stuffed the newly claimed items into her pack. Cold claws cut through her leather armor raking coldly through her back. Penji gasped and fell. Catching the worst of the fall on her hands, Penji stared into the lifeless eyes of Morik, the mage. His amulet glowed slightly in the night. Noticing a swift shadow approach her through the corner of her eye, she quickly rolled and stood crouched. A rasp of scratching metal cut the air as she drew her shortsword. Slowly the creatures surrounded her. Their eyes glowed red and their stenched wafted through the air. Penji bent lower and moved her free hand towards Morik's amulet. Keeping her eyes on the creatures, her hands stiffly moved across Morik's chest to the amulet. Grabbing hold onto the amulet, Penji started to chant the phrases that would activate it's magic. A wave of disorientation falls over Penji as the magic takes her hundreds of miles away. *** (to be continued) Date: Monday, April 4, 1994 2:46pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Morgenes Msg#: 465757 To: Morgenes *EXEMPT* Re: In the world of Uanga (Reply to #463515) (2 replies) "Edlar! Waits for me!" Edlar sighed. Why do I put up with him, thought Edlar. He turned towards Iklin. Looking up at Edlar, Iklin was smiling his innocent smile. That's why, Edlar thought. Iklin quickly packed the rest of his favorite pastries in his pack and walked quickly up to Edlar. Edlar sighed again and turned towards the door. "Thankee, Pazik!" Edlar heard Iklin yell over to the baker. "Iklin, just how many of those do you buy a day from Pazik?" Edlar asked glancing at Iklin. "Depends, Edlar. On fresh day, I's get lots 'n lots. On not so fresh day, I dinna knows. Whys?" Iklin curiously looked up. Edlar shrugged, "Because you seem to be finished with them before midday meal." Iklin grinned at Edlar, "Theys good, Edlar!" He held out his little hand to Edlar. "Wants one, Edlar?" Edlar shook his head, "No, thanks." They stopped at the village well and Edlar began filling their water flasks. Iklin flopped down besides the fountain and pulled out another pastry. Wonder if Iklin misses the others, Edlar thought. I wonder if... Edlar suddenly dropped the flask and spun around. Hunting dagger in hand in a flash and eyes scanning the area. Edlar noticed several other Eleions alerted. Iklin had, by now, his cudgel in his little hands and standing besides Edlar. "What's happenin, Edlar?" Edlar opened his mouth to answer just as a huge glow appeared a few feet away from him. Edlar heard Iklin gasp. Looking at the glow, Edlar could make out three figures. Apparently, it was some sort of teleport. Edlar wondered what would have made him jump as if alerted to some danger. Still, Edlar kept his hunting dagger out. By now, most of the villagers have left the streets looking for some sort of shelter. The glow began to fade as the three figures took on a more solid form. Iklin started to run towards the figures, but Edlar held him back. "That's Penji, Edlar!" Edlar didn't even notice Penji, he was too busy staring at the figure towering over her and the other figure. *** Penji hoped to the High Gods above that she did not miscast the spell. The world had begun to spin. Poison, Penji thought. The creature must have poisoned her when it clawed her. A tingling sensation touched her. Thinking that it was the poison taking it's terribly quick effects on her, she closed her eyes and waited for the inevitable. *** Edlar crouched down and drew his longsword. It hummed slightly as he said, "Iklin, go to Penji and see if she's ok." Iklin nodded as Edlar pushed him towards Penji. Quickly leaping up towards the creature, Edlar threw his hunting dagger it. The creature, quite faster than it's bulk led on, ducked the dagger easily. It rumbled and Edlar thought that it may be it laughed. Edlar frowned as he landed in front of the creature. It looked familiar but he could not place it. Several horns protruded from the creatures head and jaw line. Sharp red eyes, numbering in three, line its front head. Sharp and dark claws end its thickly muscled arms. It swung it's left clawed hand at Edlar. Edlar ducked and leapt forward, sword leading. The creature stepped to the side as it lifted it's up and began to bring it down. Edlar, slightly overbalanced by his forward lunge, sighed. He quickly spun, but instead of spinning out and away from the creature, he spun towards it. The creature's fist came crashing down and bits of dirt and rock flew out of it's path. Edlar stopped underneath the creature and thrusted his sword up. A loud roar rang forth from the creature. Edlar quickly got to his feet. Suddenly, Edlar saw a shadow fly by him and hit the creature squarely on one leg toppling it. Seeing the creature toppled, Edlar leapt onto it's torso and brought his sword up. Quickly, he brought his sword down piercing one of it's eye half way down the longsword's blade. The creature spasmed a few times and stopped moving with a hiss. Edlar looked towards the creature's leg and saw Iklin grinning at him. (to be continued) Date: Wednesday, April 6, 1994 3:43pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Morgenes Msg#: 466216 To: Morgenes *EXEMPT* Re: In the world of Uanga (Reply to #465757, Reply to #463515) (3 replies) Part 4... Edlar moved over to where Iklin had put Penji. He quickly checked for serious wounds. Finding none, he mumbled a few quick phrases and Penji began to glow slightly. Several of the wounds were glowing more brightly. Edlar frowned and turned to Iklin. "Iklin, get my herb pouch." Iklin nodded and ran to the packs while Edlar took out his water skin. Edlar mumbled a phrase and the water skin glowed soft white and then faded. Iklin approached with the pouch in his outstretched hand, "Wha's wrong wif Penji, Edlar?" Edlar took the pouch from Iklin and ruffled through it looking for something. "Penji has been poisoned, Iklin." Iklin looked slightly confused. He approached Penji and looked at the wounds. Sniffing around the wounds lightly, Iklin made a face. Finding what he was looking for, Edlar took the herbs out and crushed them over the wounds. He gestured and mumbled some archaic phrase while pouring some water onto his hand. Edlar started sprinkling the water over the herbs and wounds. He watched the glow lessen as the herbs began to pulse. Again he sprinkled water over the herbs and wounds while he mumbled the spell. After a few minutes, the glow faded completely. "What happened?" Edlar turned towards the voice. He saw three village guards and a local cleric-healer approaching. Edlar shook his head and said, "I'm not sure. Looks to me she teleported here when the creature was attacking her and her companion." One of the guards nodded while the other two went over to the fallen creature to examine it. The cleric-healer moved over to Penji's companion and examined him. "Do you know who they are?" asked the guard. Edlar nodded, "I know this one..." pointing at Penji, "...but I do not know her companion." The guard nodded then turned towards the cleric as he approached. The cleric shook his head. "That one's been dead for a while. Don't know if it was the poison or the hole through his chest that killed him first though." Looking at Penji, he asked, "How's that one?" He knelt down besides her and began examining her. "Poisoned also..." Edlar replied, "..but that has been taken care of." The cleric nodded and looked at Edlar. "Healer, shaman, or herbist?" He asked Edlar. "Cleric-healer/herbist." Edlar shrugged. The cleric nodded again and stood. "What should we do with her companion?" asked the guard. (to be continued) Date: Friday, April 29, 1994 6:29pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Dan The Man Msg#: 475263 To: Lythande *EXEMPT* Re: STTNG GUIDE File: 475263.ATT (Fw by Lythande, Reply to #473958, Reply to #473523, Rep*) (1 reply) I seem to be having a little trouble uploading files,I'm going to try sending the STTNG GUIDE again. Date: Sunday, May 1, 1994 6:06pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Dan The Man Msg#: 475264 To: Lythande *EXEMPT* Re: DS9GUIDE.TXT File: DS9GUIDE.TXT (Fw by Lythande, Reply to #472022, Reply to #471780, Rep*) Here is a DS9 Guide I found that you might find interesting.I think I figured out how to upload it successfully. Date: Wednesday, May 18, 1994 9:58am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Lythande Msg#: 480209 To: Conundrum *EXEMPT* Re: Jackson Heights Discount Books (Reply to #480109, Reply to #470641, Reply to #467622, R*) (1 reply) Yup - they mainly have used books. Ceiling to floor, wall to wall, plus the basement which is for storage. SF is on the right wall in the middle. Forget the room in the back - unless you're into (ugh) romance novels. It's Jackson Heights Discount Books. The # is (718) 426-0202. But, I don't know the address. It's something like 37th Ave. and 70something Street. I don't know Queens too well, but it's near a stop of the F train. BTW, when are you going? Maybe I'll go with you if you want company. I haven't gone to bother the Grubpeople in a while. You'll like them - bridge players, sf people and she's the one who got me hooked on bbsing. Oh, comics too. All new ones and lots of old, valuable ones. Date: Wednesday, December 28, 1994 11:56am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Merlin Msg#: 542684 To: Steve Flur *EXEMPT* Re: Hugo Awards (Reply to #540811, Reply to #540608, Reply to #536305, R*) (1 reply) Ah. Well, this should fix the problem... At this year's World Science Fiction Convention,held in Winnipeg Canada, the following awards were given out: Hugo Award Winners: Best Novel: Green Mars by Kim Stanley Robinson Best Novellea: "Down in the Bottomlands," Harry Turtledove (Analog 1/93) Best Novelette: "Georgeia on My Mind," Charles Sheffield (Analog 1/93) Best Short Story: "Death on the Nile," Connie Willis (Asimov's 3/93) Best Non-Fiction Book: The Encylopedia of Science Fiction Best Dramatic Presentation: Jurassic Park Best Professional Editor: Kristine Kathryn Rusch Best Professional Artist: Bob Eggleton Best Original Artwork: Space Fantasy Commemorative Stamp Booklet, Stephen Hickman (for the US Postal Service) Best Semi-Prozine: Science Fiction Chronicle Best Fanzine: Mimosa Best Fan Writer: Dave Langford Best Fan Artist: Brad W. Foster Cambell Award for Best new writer 1992-93 (not a Hugo): Amy Thomson Date: Thursday, May 4, 1995 1:34pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Merlin Msg#: 589725 To: Lythande *EXEMPT* Re: Nebula Awards (Reply to #588642, Reply to #586630, Reply to #586065, R*) (1 reply) In ceremonies held last night at the Grand Hyatt in New York City, Nebulas in the following categories were awarded: Short Story: "A Defense of the Social Contracts" by Martha Soukup Novelette: "The Martian Child" by David Gerrold Novella: "Seven Views of Olduvai Gorge" by Mike Resnick Novel: MOVING MARS by Greg Bear Grandmaster status was conferred upon Damon Knight Next year, the Nebulas will be held in late April aboard the Queen Mary in Long Beach, California. Date: Saturday, June 17, 1995 9:40am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Merlin Msg#: 606834 To: ** ALL ** *EXEMPT* Re: A Death in the Family For those who might not be aware of the following news, I am posting, in toto, a message which George R.R. Martin posted on the GEnie service a few days ago: I have been asked to post the sad news that Roger Zelazny died in St. Vincent's Hospital in Santa Fe early this afternoon, of liver failure brought on by colon/rectal cancer. Jane Lindskold, his beloved friend and companion of this past year, was with him when he died, along with his son Trent, and several of Roger's friends from the SF community. His other children, his son Devon and his daughter Shannon, had sat with him for much of the night. Roger had been fighting the disease with chemotherapy since it was first diagnosed, and the tumor had been in remission for a year, but a few months ago his condition worsened. Roger was an intensely private man, and told only family and a few close friends of his illness. He remained hopeful and optimistic until the last, and was writing right up until a few days ago, and gaming with Jane and his friends from Santa Fe and Albuquerque. He had recently completed an unfinished novel based on a fragment left by Alfred Bester, had done a CD/ROM game with Jane, and was hard at work on a major new science fiction novel, DONNERJACK, which he was extremely excited about. Many of us who knew Roger for a long time -- myself included -- had never seen him happier or more full of life than he had been during this past year. Roger had expressed the wish that his friends remember him with a party rather than a religious service, and that is indeed what we plan to do. Fred and Joan Saberhagen have kindly donated their home, and a get-together will be held there in the near future. A date and time have not yet been fixed, but I will post details when I have them for those in the New Mexico area. For all the rest of the people who loved Roger and his work, we have been talking about organizing a memorial service/reading/party at one of the major upcoming conventions, most likely the World Fantasy Con in Baltimore. Again, I will post further details when I have them. Roger was a giant, not only one of the finest writers that the genre has ever seen, but the kindlest, gentlest, sweetest man I have ever been fortunate enough to know. We have lost a good one. ------------ Date: Tuesday, June 20, 1995 9:02pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Merlin Msg#: 607767 To: ** ALL ** *EXEMPT* Re: TAPESTRIES (2 replies) This is an announcement that the book MAGIC: THE GATHERING - TAPESTRIES, an anthology of stories based on the game Magic: The Gathering, is now in the bookstores. It contains a story by yours truly, entitled "Dochyel's Ride." Shamless plug now over. Date: Tuesday, July 18, 1995 1:01pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Merlin Msg#: 616971 To: ** ALL ** *EXEMPT* Re: Hugo.txt File: HUGO.TXT The file attached to this message contains a list of the 1995 Hugo Award Nominees. The Awards will be distributed in late August at the World Science Fiction Convention, this year called "Intersection," which will be held in Glasgow, Scotland. Date: Monday, September 25, 1995 5:11pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Merlin Msg#: 636948 To: ** ALL ** *EXEMPT* Re: Hugo Awards (3 replies) In ceremonies held in Glasgow, Scotland, a few weeks ago, the following hugos were awarded: HUGO AWARDS Best Novel MIRROR DANCE, Lois McMaster Bujold (Baen) Best Novella "Seven Views of Olduvai Gorge", Mike Resnick (F&SF 10-11/94) Best Novelette "The Martian Child", David Gerrold (F&SF, 9/94) Best Short Story "None So Blind", Joe Haldeman (Asimov's 11/94) Best Non-Fiction Book I. ASIMOV: A MEMOIR, Isaac Asimov (Doubleday) Best Professional Artist Jim Burns Best Professional Editor Gardner Dozois Best Original Artwork Brian Froud for LADY COTTINGTON'S PRESSED FAIRY BOOK, By Brian Froud and Terry Jones (Turner; Pavillion UK) Best Dramatic Presentation "All Good Things" (STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION) Best Semiprozine Interzone Best Fan Writer Dave Langford Best Fanzine Ansible Best Fan Artist Teddy Harvia John W. Campbell Award (Not a Hugo) Jeff Noon Date: Monday, September 25, 1995 5:18pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Merlin Msg#: 636958 To: ** ALL ** *EXEMPT* Re: John Brunner The following appeared in the Intersection Newsletter, VOICE OF THE MYSTERONS, in a special Friday evening edition, on August 25. Intersection is the name of this year's World Science Fiction Convention. JOHN BRUNNER It is with great sorry that we must anounce that John Brunner passed away this afternoon following a massive stroke earlier today. He will be greatly missed by everyone who knew him. I should mention that many of us saw John the night before his death in one of the writers' suites. He was a bit gaunt looking, but I don't think that any of us believed that it was our last chance to talk with him. Date: Tuesday, October 24, 1995 4:59pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Merlin Msg#: 646824 To: Steve Flur *EXEMPT* Re: TAPESTRIES (Reply to #646805, Reply to #639767, Reply to #637163, R*) (1 reply) My story "Sambatyon" has just been released in an anthology called THE ULTIMATE SILVER SURFER. I'm working on a Fafhrd & Grey Mouser story, which is due by 1/1/97 and playing around with a couple of other ideas in my 'copious spare time.' Date: Sunday, December 17, 1995 12:45am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Merlin Msg#: 658636 To: Steve Flur *EXEMPT* Re: Hugo Awards (Reply to #648592, Reply to #646826, Reply to #646807, R*) (1 reply) Sorry for the long delay. Here are the WFC winners: Science Fiction and Fantasy RT Category 25, Topic 3 Message 470 Wed Nov 01, 1995 M.HAMEL2 [Meg] at 11:02 EST (Nathan Bardsley's post copied here) The 1995 World Fantasy Award Winners (Presented at the 21st World Fantasy Convention in Baltimore, MD, October 29, 1995) Life Achievement Award: Ursula K. Le Guin Best Novel: TOWING JEHOVAH by James Morrow Best Novella: "Last Summer at Mars Hill" by Elizabeth Hand Best Short Fiction: "The Man in the Black Suit" by Stephen King Best Anthology: LITTLE DEATHS edited by Ellen Datlow Best Collection: THE CALVIN COOLIDGE HOME FOR DEAD COMEDIANS and A CONFLAGRATION ARTIST by Bradley Denton Best Artist: Jacek Yerka Special Award, Professional: Ellen Datlow for editing Special Award, Non-professional: Bryan Cholfin for Broken Mirrors Press ---------- Date: Saturday, January 27, 1996 5:34pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Merlin Msg#: 670706 To: ** ALL ** *EXEMPT* Re: Nebulas (2 replies) Here is the preliminary ballot for the Nebs, taken from GEnie. I'll post the final ballot when it's ready, in February. Novel ___ Allen, Roger MacBride: The Shattered Sphere (Tor, Jul94) ___ Asaro, Catherine: Primary Inversion (Tor, Apr95) ___ Barnes, John: Mother of Storms (Tor, Jul94) ___ Barton, William: When Heaven Fell (Warner, Mar95) ___ de Lint, Charles: Memory and Dream (Tor, Oct94) ___ Garland, Mark &, McGraw, Charles: Demon Blade (Baen, Jul94) ___ Goonan, Kathleen Ann: Queen City Jazz (Tor, Nov94) ___ Hambly, Barbara: Bride of the Rat God (Del Rey, Dec94) ___ Knaak, Richard: Frostwing (Warner/Aspect, Jan95) ___ Kress, Nancy: Beggars and Choosers (Tor, Oct94) ___ McAllister, P.K.: Siduri s Net (ROC, Nov94) ___ % McCarthy, Wil: Aggressor Six (ROC, Jul94) ___ McDevitt, Jack: The Engines of God (Ace, Oct94) ___ Nagata, Linda: The Bohr Maker (Bantam, Apr95) ___ Robinson, Spider & Jeanne: Starmind (Analog , Nov94) ___ Sawyer, Robert J.: Hobson s Choice/The Terminal Experiment (Analog , Mar95) ___ Hand, Elizabeth: Last Summer At Mars Hill (F&SF, Aug94) ___ Hatch, Daniel: In Forests Afloat Upon the Sea (Analog, Jan95) ___ Resnick, Mike &, Shwartz, Susan: Bibi (Asimov s , Dec95) ___ Stableford, Brian: Mortimer Gray s History of Death (Asimov s, Apr95) Novelette ___ Andrews, Arlan: The Twilight of the Guards, or the Plowshare Conundrum (Analog, Dec94) ___ Arnason, Eleanor: The Lovers (Asimov s, Jul94) ___ Coney, Michael: Tea and Hamsters (F&SF, Jan95) ___ Hoffman, Nina Kiriki: Home for Christmas (F&SF, Jan95) ___ Kelly, James Patrick: Think like a Dinosaur (Asimov s, Jun95) ___ Le Guin, Ursula K.: Solitude (F&SF, Dec94) ___ Le Guin, Ursula K.: Another Story (Tomorrow SF #10, Aug94) ___ Oltion, Jerry: Fermat s Lost Theorem (Analog , Dec94) ___ Resnick, Mike: When Old Gods Die (Asimov s, Apr95) ___ Smeds, Dave: Fearless (Warriors of Blood and Dream, Zelazny, Ed., AvoNova, Jun95) Short Story ___ Boston, Bruce: Curse of the Cyberhead s Wife (SF Age, Sep94) ___ Cleary, David: The Trancendentalists (SF Age, Nov94) ___ Dozois, Gardner: A Cat Horror Story (F&SF, Nov94) ___ Friesner, Esther M.: Death and the Librarian (Asimov s, Dec94) ___ Goingback, Owl: Grass Dancer (Excalibur, Gilliam, Greenberg, & Kramer, Ed., Warner, May95) ___ Goldstein, Lisa: The Narcissus Plague (Asimov s, Jul94) ___ Landis, Geoffrey A.: The Kingdom of Cats and Birds (SF Age, Sep94) ___ Linaweaver, Brad: Wells of Wisdom (Galaxy, Jun94) ___ May, Paula: Dilating the Paradox (Analog , Dec94) ___ McHugh, Maureen: The Lincoln Train (F&SF, Apr95) ___ Nimersheim, Jack: Moriarty by Modem (Sherlock Holmes in Orbit, DAW, Feb95) ___ Smeds, Dave: Short Timer (F&SF, Dec94) ___ Zebrowski, George: Swift Thoughts(Amazing Stories , Aug95) ------------ Date: Monday, October 28, 1996 11:26pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Merlin Msg#: 721502 To: Steve Flur Re: Retro Hugos (Reply to #720897, Reply to #720779, Reply to #719225, R*) (1 reply) I hope so, Steve. :) Date: Monday, October 28, 1996 11:26pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Merlin Msg#: 721503 To: Steve Flur Re: Hugos (Reply to #720898, Reply to #720780, Reply to #719226, R*) (1 reply) Seems so. I should check them out a bit more frequently. Date: Monday, October 28, 1996 11:29pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Merlin Msg#: 721504 To: ** ALL ** Re: World Fantasy Awards (2 replies) World Fantasy Awards Ballot Here are the nominees for the 1995 World Fantasy Awards. The winners will be announced at the convention in Schaumburg, Illinois. NOVEL James P. Blaylock ALL THE BELLS OF EARTH Ace Books Vikram Chandra RED EARTH, POURING RAIN Little, Brown Nina Kiriki Hoffman THE SILENT STRENGTH OF STONES AvoNova Graham Joyce REQUIEM Michael Joseph UK/Signet Creed Tim Powers EXPIRATION DATE HarperCollins UK/Tor Books Christopher Priest THE PRESTIGE S&S Touchstone UK NOVELLA Nina Kiriki Hoffman Home For Christmas The Magazine of Fantasy & Science Fiction January 1995 Ursula K. Le Guin Ether OR Isaac Asimov's Science Fiction Magazine November 1995 Jonathan Lethem The Insipid Profession of Jonathan Hornebom FULL SPECTRUM 5 Tim Powers WHERE THEY ARE HID Charnel House Michael Marshall Smith More Tomorrow DARK TERRORS Michael Swanwick Radio Waves Omni Winter 1995 SHORT FICTION Gwyneth Jones The Grass Princess SEVEN TALES AND A FABLE Kit Reed The Singing Marine The Magazine of Fantasy & Science Fiction October/November 1995 Petrina Smith Angel Thing SHE'S FANTASTICAL S. P. Somtow Dragon's Fin Soup THE ULTIMATE DRAGON Robert Charles Wilson The Perseids NORTHERN FRIGHTS 3 Douglas Winter Loop DARK LOVE 2 ANTHOLOGY Nancy A. Collins, Edward E. Kramer & Martin H. Greenberg, Editors DARK LOVE Roc Books Stephen Jones & David Sutton, Editors DARK TERRORS Victor Gollancz Lucy Sussex and Judith Raphael Buckrich, Editors SHE'S FANTASTICAL Sybylla Feminist Press, Melbourne, Australia Steve Rasnic Tem, Editor HIGH FANTASTIC Ocean View Books A. Susan Williams & Richard Glyn Jones, Editors THE PENGUIN BOOK OF MODERN FANTASY BY WOMEN Viking COLLECTION Brian Aldiss THE SECRET OF THIS BOOK HarperCollins UK Published in the US as COMMON CLAY, or 20 ODD TALES St. Martin's Pres Jonathan Carroll THE PANIC HAND HarperCollins UK Hugh B. Cave DEATH STALKS THE NIGHT Fedogan & Bremer Charles de Lint THE IVORY AND THE HORN Tor Books Gwyneth Jones SEVEN TALES AND A FABLE Edgewood Press ARTIST Tom Canty Alan Clark Bob Eggleton J. K. Potter Gahan Wilson SPECIAL AWARD - PROFESSIONAL Richard Evans For contributions to the genre Stephen Jones For editing and anthologies Kristine Kathryn Rusch For editing The Magazine of Fantasy & Science Fiction Gordon Van Gelder For editing Paul Williams For editing THE MICROCOSMIC GOD by Theodore Sturgeon and for his work with the Literary Estate of Theodore Sturgeon SPECIAL AWARD - NON-PROFESSIONAL Fedogan & Bremer For book publishing Robert J. K. Kilheffer, Meg Hamel and Jenna Felice For Century Marc Michaud For Necronomicon Press Steve Pasechnick For Edgewood Press Robert Weinberg For contributions to the genre Date: Tuesday, October 29, 1996 2:20pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 721536 To: Merlin Re: Retro Hugos (Reply to #721502, Reply to #720897, Reply to #720779, R*) (1 reply) I have faith in you! Date: Tuesday, October 29, 1996 2:20pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 721537 To: Merlin Re: Hugos (Reply to #721503, Reply to #720898, Reply to #720780, R*) (1 reply) Check out a show called the Vortex. Date: Tuesday, October 29, 1996 2:22pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 721538 To: Merlin Re: World Fantasy Awards (Reply to #721504) (2 replies) Thank you for the list, but where was your name? Date: Tuesday, October 29, 1996 8:23pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 721566 To: Merlin Re: World Fantasy Awards (Reply to #721504) (1 reply) Thanks alot for the info,Merlin! Date: Tuesday, October 29, 1996 8:23pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 721567 To: Steve Flur Re: World Fantasy Awards (Reply to #721538, Reply to #721504) (1 reply) SF>Thank you for the list, but where was your name? I agree with you! Date: Wednesday, October 30, 1996 2:12pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 721650 To: Nightbird Re: World Fantasy Awards (Reply to #721567, Reply to #721538, Reply to #721504) NI>SF>Thank you for the list, but where was your name? NI>I agree with you! Agreement???????? Date: Friday, November 8, 1996 10:31am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 722462 To: Vida Re: B5 (2 replies) This week will be the season premier of B5, so its a good time to try it out. Date: Friday, November 8, 1996 9:13pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve C Msg#: 722512 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #722462) (1 reply) SF>This week will be the season premier of B5, so its a good time to try it SF>out. Agreed. But if possible find a friend who has the last three or four episodes to bring you up to speed on whats been happening. Although it is going to be good the last couple of episodes set this one up, so watching it alone might be confusing. Either that or watch it with a friend who is up on it./s Date: Saturday, November 9, 1996 8:46am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 722549 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #722462) (1 reply) SF>This week will be the season premier of B5, so its a good time to try it SF>out. When and what time and what station? Date: Tuesday, November 12, 1996 3:05pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 722782 To: Steve C Re: B5 (Reply to #722512, Reply to #722462) (2 replies) SC>SF>This week will be the season premier of B5, so its a good time to try it SC>SF>out. SC>Agreed. But if possible find a friend who has the last three or four SC>episodes to bring you up to speed on whats been happening. Although it SC>is going to be good the last couple of episodes set this one up, so SC>watching it alone might be confusing. Either that or watch it with a SC>friend who is up on it./s Actually I have followed the show from the beginning and enjoy how they tie in details from every previous season. Date: Tuesday, November 12, 1996 3:05pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 722783 To: Vida Re: B5 (Reply to #722549, Reply to #722462) (1 reply) VI>SF>This week will be the season premier of B5, so its a good time to try it VI>SF>out. VI>When and what time and what station? Channel 9, 2 PM and 8 PM Date: Tuesday, November 12, 1996 9:04pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 722813 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #722782, Reply to #722512, Reply to #722462) (1 reply) SF>C>SF>This week will be the season premier of B5, so its a good time to try i SF>SC>SF>out. SF>SC>Agreed. But if possible find a friend who has the last three or four SF>SC>episodes to bring you up to speed on whats been happening. Although it SF>SC>is going to be good the last couple of episodes set this one up, so SF>SC>watching it alone might be confusing. Either that or watch it with a SF>SC>friend who is up on it./s SF>Actually I have followed the show from the beginning and enjoy how they SF>tie in details from every previous season. Good to know that someone else likes B5 too! --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Aha! A Pepsi machine that fits in a 1/2 height slot! Date: Tuesday, November 12, 1996 9:42pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve C Msg#: 722824 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #722782, Reply to #722512, Reply to #722462) (1 reply) SF>SC>SF>This week will be the season premier of B5, so its a good time to try SF>SC>SF>out. SF>SC>Agreed. But if possible find a friend who has the last three or four SF>SC>episodes to bring you up to speed on whats been happening. Although it SF>SC>is going to be good the last couple of episodes set this one up, so SF>SC>watching it alone might be confusing. Either that or watch it with a SF>SC>friend who is up on it./s SF>Actually I have followed the show from the beginning and enjoy how they SF>tie in details from every previous season. I agree. JMS, the shows creator, started with a 5 season time line that he follows to ensure continuity. Date: Wednesday, November 13, 1996 6:25pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 722858 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #722783, Reply to #722549, Reply to #722462) (2 replies) SF>VI>SF>This week will be the season premier of B5, so its a good time to try SF>VI>SF>out. SF>VI>When and what time and what station? SF>Channel 9, 2 PM and 8 PM What day? Did I miss it already??? Date: Wednesday, November 13, 1996 7:07pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 722874 To: Vida Re: B5 (Reply to #722858, Reply to #722783, Reply to #722549, R*) (3 replies) VI>SF>VI>SF>This week will be the season premier of B5, so its a good time to t VI>SF>VI>SF>out. VI>SF>VI>When and what time and what station? VI>SF>Channel 9, 2 PM and 8 PM VI>What day? Did I miss it already??? Yes, you did but it's on again(a new episode) on Sunday, channel 9, 2 & 8 --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ But I do float like a bee and sting like a butterfly. Date: Thursday, November 14, 1996 6:35am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 722884 To: Nightbird Re: B5 (Reply to #722874, Reply to #722858, Reply to #722783, R*) Date: Thursday, November 14, 1996 6:36am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 722885 To: Nightbird Re: B5 (Reply to #722874, Reply to #722858, Reply to #722783, R*) (2 replies) NI>VI>SF>VI>SF>This week will be the season premier of B5, so its a good time t NI>VI>SF>VI>SF>out. NI>VI>SF>VI>When and what time and what station? NI>VI>SF>Channel 9, 2 PM and 8 PM NI>VI>What day? Did I miss it already??? NI>Yes, you did but it's on again(a new episode) on Sunday, channel 9, 2 & NI>8 Seems like a lost cause. :) Date: Thursday, November 14, 1996 1:33pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 722899 To: Nightbird Re: B5 (Reply to #722813, Reply to #722782, Reply to #722512, R*) (1 reply) Over the years I have tried to start a discussion about B5, and I am glad to finally find another viewer. Date: Thursday, November 14, 1996 1:34pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 722900 To: Steve C Re: B5 (Reply to #722824, Reply to #722782, Reply to #722512, R*) (2 replies) Continuity is so important for the creditability of a story line. Date: Thursday, November 14, 1996 1:36pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 722901 To: Vida Re: B5 (Reply to #722858, Reply to #722783, Reply to #722549, R*) (1 reply) VI>SF>VI>SF>This week will be the season premier of B5, so its a good time to t VI>SF>VI>SF>out. VI>SF>VI>When and what time and what station? VI>SF>Channel 9, 2 PM and 8 PM VI>What day? Did I miss it already??? Saturdays. Yes you missed that one, but try to watch anyway and I will answer any questions. Date: Thursday, November 14, 1996 1:36pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 722902 To: Nightbird Re: B5 (Reply to #722874, Reply to #722858, Reply to #722783, R*) (1 reply) NI>VI>SF>VI>SF>This week will be the season premier of B5, so its a good time t NI>VI>SF>VI>SF>out. NI>VI>SF>VI>When and what time and what station? NI>VI>SF>Channel 9, 2 PM and 8 PM NI>VI>What day? Did I miss it already??? NI>Yes, you did but it's on again(a new episode) on Sunday, channel 9, 2 & NI>8 NI>--- NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ But I do float like a bee and sting like a butterfly. Saturday. Date: Thursday, November 14, 1996 1:37pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 722903 To: Vida Re: B5 (Reply to #722885, Reply to #722874, Reply to #722858, R*) (1 reply) VI>NI>VI>SF>VI>SF>This week will be the season premier of B5, so its a good tim VI>NI>VI>SF>VI>SF>out. VI>NI>VI>SF>VI>When and what time and what station? VI>NI>VI>SF>Channel 9, 2 PM and 8 PM VI>NI>VI>What day? Did I miss it already??? VI>NI>Yes, you did but it's on again(a new episode) on Sunday, channel 9, 2 & VI>NI>8 VI>Seems like a lost cause. :) Saturday. Date: Thursday, November 14, 1996 7:23pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 722930 To: Vida Re: B5 (Reply to #722885, Reply to #722874, Reply to #722858, R*) (1 reply) VI>NI>VI>SF>VI>SF>This week will be the season premier of B5, so its a good tim VI>NI>VI>SF>VI>SF>out. VI>NI>VI>SF>VI>When and what time and what station? VI>NI>VI>SF>Channel 9, 2 PM and 8 PM VI>NI>VI>What day? Did I miss it already??? VI>NI>Yes, you did but it's on again(a new episode) on Sunday, channel 9, 2 & VI>NI>8 VI>Seems like a lost cause. :) WHY? --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ To discover one knows nothing is the beginning of wisdom Date: Thursday, November 14, 1996 7:23pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 722931 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #722899, Reply to #722813, Reply to #722782, R*) (1 reply) SF>Over the years I have tried to start a discussion about B5, and I am SF>glad to finally find another viewer. Hey, I love it. I've been watching B5 since the movie & so has my Steve! --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Fahrflungndel: Mouthful of spaghetti after a sneeze. Date: Thursday, November 14, 1996 7:23pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 722932 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #722902, Reply to #722874, Reply to #722858, R*) (1 reply) SF>Saturday. OOPS! I feel really stupid! --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Television was democracy at its ugliest, until the BBS. Date: Thursday, November 14, 1996 7:24pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 722939 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #722900, Reply to #722824, Reply to #722782, R*) (1 reply) SF>Continuity is so important for the creditability of a story line. True, so very, very true! --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Either he's dead Jim, or my Tricorder is running AmigaDos Date: Friday, November 15, 1996 7:56am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 722981 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #722901, Reply to #722858, Reply to #722783, R*) (2 replies) SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>This week will be the season premier of B5, so its a good time t SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>out. SF>VI>SF>VI>When and what time and what station? SF>VI>SF>Channel 9, 2 PM and 8 PM SF>VI>What day? Did I miss it already??? SF>Saturdays. Yes you missed that one, but try to watch anyway and I will SF>answer any questions. It's on bad times. It interferes with Bob time. :) Date: Friday, November 15, 1996 7:57am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 722982 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #722903, Reply to #722885, Reply to #722874, R*) (1 reply) SF>VI>NI>VI>SF>VI>SF>This week will be the season premier of B5, so its a good SF>VI>NI>VI>SF>VI>SF>out. SF>VI>NI>VI>SF>VI>When and what time and what station? SF>VI>NI>VI>SF>Channel 9, 2 PM and 8 PM SF>VI>NI>VI>What day? Did I miss it already??? SF>VI>NI>Yes, you did but it's on again(a new episode) on Sunday, channel 9, 2 SF>VI>NI>8 SF>VI>Seems like a lost cause. :) SF>Saturday. Like I said, it seems like a lost cause for me and B5. Date: Friday, November 15, 1996 7:57am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 722983 To: Nightbird Re: B5 (Reply to #722930, Reply to #722885, Reply to #722874, R*) (1 reply) NI>VI>NI>VI>SF>VI>SF>This week will be the season premier of B5, so its a good NI>VI>NI>VI>SF>VI>SF>out. NI>VI>NI>VI>SF>VI>When and what time and what station? NI>VI>NI>VI>SF>Channel 9, 2 PM and 8 PM NI>VI>NI>VI>What day? Did I miss it already??? NI>VI>NI>Yes, you did but it's on again(a new episode) on Sunday, channel 9, 2 NI>VI>NI>8 NI>VI>Seems like a lost cause. :) NI>WHY? NI>--- Lack of motivation I guess. Date: Friday, November 15, 1996 10:54pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 722990 To: Vida Re: B5 (Reply to #722983, Reply to #722930, Reply to #722885, R*) VI>NI>WHY? VI>Lack of motivation I guess. WATCH B5, please!!!!!! --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ #30-3771: Do not disturb. Already disturbed. Date: Friday, November 15, 1996 10:55pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 723003 To: Vida Re: B5 (Reply to #722981, Reply to #722901, Reply to #722858, R*) (1 reply) VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>This week will be the season premier of B5, so its a good tim VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>out. VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>When and what time and what station? VI>SF>VI>SF>Channel 9, 2 PM and 8 PM VI>SF>VI>What day? Did I miss it already??? VI>SF>Saturdays. Yes you missed that one, but try to watch anyway and I will VI>SF>answer any questions. VI>It's on bad times. It interferes with Bob time. :) So, set your VCR(I know you know how to do that!) --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Big things come in .QWK packages. Date: Sunday, November 17, 1996 6:58pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 723048 To: Nightbird Re: B5 (Reply to #723003, Reply to #722981, Reply to #722901, R*) (1 reply) NI>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>This week will be the season premier of B5, so its a good NI>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>out. NI>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>When and what time and what station? NI>VI>SF>VI>SF>Channel 9, 2 PM and 8 PM NI>VI>SF>VI>What day? Did I miss it already??? NI>VI>SF>Saturdays. Yes you missed that one, but try to watch anyway and I will NI>VI>SF>answer any questions. NI>VI>It's on bad times. It interferes with Bob time. :) NI>So, set your VCR(I know you know how to do that!) NI>--- Remember what happened when I tried to program Genesis? :) Date: Sunday, November 17, 1996 10:08pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve C Msg#: 723086 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #722900, Reply to #722824, Reply to #722782, R*) (1 reply) SF>Continuity is so important for the creditability of a story line. So true. but many other Sci-fi series's, especially the Trek spin-offs tend to forget or ignore the continuity. It is a relief that B5 believes in continuity. Date: Monday, November 18, 1996 12:22am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Conundrum Msg#: 723111 To: Vida Re: star trek (Reply to #714850, Reply to #714632, Reply to #714071, R*) (1 reply) VI>Actually for a goodly part of the fall I was regularly taping Deep VI>Space 9. Then I just kinda forget about it. Well, that's the problem. ON the other hand, with something like B5, where the story has actual progression and change (especially this season -- whoa boy), it's a lot harder to forget. Date: Monday, November 18, 1996 10:22pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 723129 To: Vida Re: B5 (Reply to #723048, Reply to #723003, Reply to #722981, R*) VI>NI>So, set your VCR(I know you know how to do that!) VI>NI>--- VI>Remember what happened when I tried to program Genesis? :) Yup, sorry about that. --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Cannibals don't eat clowns because they taste funny. - TM Date: Tuesday, November 26, 1996 9:25pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Merlin Msg#: 723439 To: Steve Flur Re: Retro Hugos (Reply to #721536, Reply to #721502, Reply to #720897, R*) (1 reply) Thanks...I certainly appreciate it. :) Date: Tuesday, November 26, 1996 9:25pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Merlin Msg#: 723440 To: Steve Flur Re: Hugos (Reply to #721537, Reply to #721503, Reply to #720898, R*) (1 reply) When is it (Vortex) on? Date: Tuesday, November 26, 1996 9:25pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Merlin Msg#: 723441 To: Steve Flur Re: World Fantasy Awards (Reply to #721538, Reply to #721504) (1 reply) I've a long way to go before I'm on that list, Steve. :) Date: Tuesday, November 26, 1996 9:26pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Merlin Msg#: 723442 To: Nightbird Re: World Fantasy Awards (Reply to #721566, Reply to #721504) (1 reply) You're welcome...the winners follow. Date: Tuesday, November 26, 1996 9:29pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Merlin Msg#: 723443 To: ** ALL ** Re: World Fantasy Awards (1 reply) During ceremonies on Sunday afternoon, November 3, the following World Fantasy Awards were presented: NOVEL Christopher Priest THE PRESTIGE S&S Touchstone UK NOVELLA Michael Swanwick Radio Waves Omni Winter 1995 SHORT FICTION Gwyneth Jones The Grass Princess SEVEN TALES AND A FABLE ANTHOLOGY A. Susan Williams & Richard Glyn Jones, Editors THE PENGUIN BOOK OF MODERN FANTASY BY WOMEN Viking COLLECTION Gwyneth Jones SEVEN TALES AND A FABLE Edgewood Press ARTIST Gahan Wilson SPECIAL AWARD - PROFESSIONAL Richard Evans For contributions to the genre SPECIAL AWARD - NON-PROFESSIONAL Marc Michaud For Necronomicon Press LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD Gene Wolfe Date: Wednesday, November 27, 1996 7:50pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 723487 To: Merlin Re: World Fantasy Awards (Reply to #723442, Reply to #721566, Reply to #721504) (1 reply) ME>You're welcome...the winners follow. Cool! --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Do witches run spell checkers? Date: Friday, November 29, 1996 2:43pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 723549 To: Nightbird Re: B5 (Reply to #722931, Reply to #722899, Reply to #722813, R*) (1 reply) NI>SF>Over the years I have tried to start a discussion about B5, and I am NI>SF>glad to finally find another viewer. NI>Hey, I love it. I've been watching B5 since the movie & so has my NI>Steve! NI>--- NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Fahrflungndel: Mouthful of spaghetti after a sneeze. So, what do you think of the new season so far? Date: Friday, November 29, 1996 2:44pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 723550 To: Nightbird Re: B5 (Reply to #722932, Reply to #722902, Reply to #722874, R*) (1 reply) NI>SF>Saturday. NI>OOPS! I feel really stupid! NI>--- NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Television was democracy at its ugliest, until the BBS. It used to be shown on Sunday, so do not feel too bad. Date: Friday, November 29, 1996 2:45pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 723551 To: Nightbird Re: B5 (Reply to #722939, Reply to #722900, Reply to #722824, R*) (1 reply) NI>SF>Continuity is so important for the creditability of a story line. NI>True, so very, very true! NI>--- NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Either he's dead Jim, or my Tricorder is running AmigaDos Having the same people working on the show continuously helps. Date: Friday, November 29, 1996 2:45pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 723552 To: Vida Re: B5 (Reply to #722981, Reply to #722901, Reply to #722858, R*) (2 replies) VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>This week will be the season premier of B5, so its a good tim VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>out. VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>When and what time and what station? VI>SF>VI>SF>Channel 9, 2 PM and 8 PM VI>SF>VI>What day? Did I miss it already??? VI>SF>Saturdays. Yes you missed that one, but try to watch anyway and I will VI>SF>answer any questions. VI>It's on bad times. It interferes with Bob time. :) So, get him involved so you can share. Date: Friday, November 29, 1996 2:46pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 723553 To: Vida Re: B5 (Reply to #722982, Reply to #722903, Reply to #722885, R*) VI>SF>VI>NI>VI>SF>VI>SF>This week will be the season premier of B5, so its a go VI>SF>VI>NI>VI>SF>VI>SF>out. VI>SF>VI>NI>VI>SF>VI>When and what time and what station? VI>SF>VI>NI>VI>SF>Channel 9, 2 PM and 8 PM VI>SF>VI>NI>VI>What day? Did I miss it already??? VI>SF>VI>NI>Yes, you did but it's on again(a new episode) on Sunday, channel 9, VI>SF>VI>NI>8 VI>SF>VI>Seems like a lost cause. :) VI>SF>Saturday. VI>Like I said, it seems like a lost cause for me and B5. That's too bad, since I believe you would enjoy it. Date: Friday, November 29, 1996 2:47pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 723554 To: Steve C Re: B5 (Reply to #723086, Reply to #722900, Reply to #722824, R*) (1 reply) SC>SF>Continuity is so important for the creditability of a story line. SC>So true. but many other Sci-fi series's, especially the Trek spin-offs SC>tend to forget or ignore the continuity. It is a relief that B5 believes SC>in continuity. The continuity of the staff maintains the story line. Date: Friday, November 29, 1996 2:48pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 723555 To: Conundrum Re: star trek (Reply to #723111, Reply to #714850, Reply to #714632, R*) (1 reply) CO>VI>Actually for a goodly part of the fall I was regularly taping Deep CO>VI>Space 9. Then I just kinda forget about it. CO>Well, that's the problem. ON the other hand, with something like B5, CO>where the story has actual progression and change (especially this CO>season -- whoa boy), it's a lot harder to forget. And your opinion of this season is? Date: Friday, November 29, 1996 2:49pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 723556 To: Merlin Re: Retro Hugos (Reply to #723439, Reply to #721536, Reply to #721502, R*) (1 reply) And you always deliver. Date: Friday, November 29, 1996 2:49pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 723557 To: Merlin Re: Hugos (Reply to #723440, Reply to #721537, Reply to #721503, R*) (1 reply) ME>When is it (Vortex) on? I belive Friday's at 7:30 and at random other times. Date: Friday, November 29, 1996 2:50pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 723558 To: Merlin Re: World Fantasy Awards (Reply to #723441, Reply to #721538, Reply to #721504) (1 reply) ME>I've a long way to go before I'm on that list, Steve. :) But you will someday! Date: Friday, November 29, 1996 2:51pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 723559 To: Merlin Re: World Fantasy Awards (Reply to #723443) (1 reply) Thank you once again for an informative post, and only 23 days after the event. Date: Saturday, November 30, 1996 8:29am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 723577 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #723552, Reply to #722981, Reply to #722901, R*) (1 reply) SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>This week will be the season premier of B5, so its a good SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>out. SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>When and what time and what station? SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Channel 9, 2 PM and 8 PM SF>VI>SF>VI>What day? Did I miss it already??? SF>VI>SF>Saturdays. Yes you missed that one, but try to watch anyway and I will SF>VI>SF>answer any questions. SF>VI>It's on bad times. It interferes with Bob time. :) SF>So, get him involved so you can share. I would rather get him involved in another kind of joint project during the time the show is on. :) Date: Sunday, December 1, 1996 4:15pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 723597 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #723549, Reply to #722931, Reply to #722899, R*) (1 reply) SF>NI>Hey, I love it. I've been watching B5 since the movie & so has my SF>NI>Steve! SF>So, what do you think of the new season so far? In a word INTENSE!!!! Damn, it's totally fantasic this season! --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue. Date: Sunday, December 1, 1996 4:15pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 723598 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #723550, Reply to #722932, Reply to #722902, R*) (1 reply) SF>I>SF>Saturday. SF>NI>OOPS! I feel really stupid! SF>NI>--- SF>NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Television was democracy at its ugliest, until the BBS. SF>It used to be shown on Sunday, so do not feel too bad. No problem! --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ LOTUS - Let Only The Users Suffer Date: Sunday, December 1, 1996 4:15pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 723599 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #723551, Reply to #722939, Reply to #722900, R*) (1 reply) SF>I>SF>Continuity is so important for the creditability of a story line. SF>NI>True, so very, very true! SF>NI>--- SF>NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Either he's dead Jim, or my Tricorder is running AmigaDos SF>Having the same people working on the show continuously helps. Yes, that is very true! --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Luxuriantly hand-crafted of only the finest ASCII. Date: Sunday, December 1, 1996 4:16pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 723610 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #723552, Reply to #722981, Reply to #722901, R*) (1 reply) SF>I>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>This week will be the season premier of B5, so its a good t SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>out. SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>When and what time and what station? SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Channel 9, 2 PM and 8 PM SF>VI>SF>VI>What day? Did I miss it already??? SF>VI>SF>Saturdays. Yes you missed that one, but try to watch anyway and I will SF>VI>SF>answer any questions. SF>VI>It's on bad times. It interferes with Bob time. :) SF>So, get him involved so you can share. I liked you advice to Vida although we may have to bring her up to speed if she get interested in B5. --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Never judge a man by his taglines. Date: Sunday, December 1, 1996 9:31pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve C Msg#: 723633 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #723554, Reply to #723086, Reply to #722900, R*) (1 reply) SF>SC>SF>Continuity is so important for the creditability of a story line. SF>SC>So true. but many other Sci-fi series's, especially the Trek spin-offs SF>SC>tend to forget or ignore the continuity. It is a relief that B5 believes SF>SC>in continuity. SF>The continuity of the staff maintains the story line. and they do an exceptional job of it on B5./ Date: Wednesday, December 4, 1996 1:22pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 723751 To: Vida Re: B5 (Reply to #723577, Reply to #723552, Reply to #722981, R*) (1 reply) VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>This week will be the season premier of B5, so its a go VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>out. VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>When and what time and what station? VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Channel 9, 2 PM and 8 PM VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>What day? Did I miss it already??? VI>SF>VI>SF>Saturdays. Yes you missed that one, but try to watch anyway and I w VI>SF>VI>SF>answer any questions. VI>SF>VI>It's on bad times. It interferes with Bob time. :) VI>SF>So, get him involved so you can share. VI>I would rather get him involved in another kind of joint project during VI>the time the show is on. :) You can sit up in bed for one hour can't you? Date: Wednesday, December 4, 1996 1:23pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 723752 To: Nightbird Re: B5 (Reply to #723597, Reply to #723549, Reply to #722931, R*) (2 replies) NI>SF>NI>Hey, I love it. I've been watching B5 since the movie & so has my NI>SF>NI>Steve! NI>SF>So, what do you think of the new season so far? NI>In a word INTENSE!!!! NI>Damn, it's totally fantasic this season! NI>--- NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue. Somehow I feel you need to watch both showings to catch all the fine points. Date: Wednesday, December 4, 1996 1:24pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 723753 To: Nightbird Re: B5 (Reply to #723598, Reply to #723550, Reply to #722932, R*) (1 reply) NI>SF>I>SF>Saturday. NI>SF>NI>OOPS! I feel really stupid! NI>SF>NI>--- NI>SF>NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Television was democracy at its ugliest, until the BBS NI>SF>It used to be shown on Sunday, so do not feel too bad. NI>No problem! NI>--- NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ LOTUS - Let Only The Users Suffer We actually could use a third showing per episode. Date: Wednesday, December 4, 1996 1:24pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 723754 To: Nightbird Re: B5 (Reply to #723599, Reply to #723551, Reply to #722939, R*) (1 reply) NI>SF>I>SF>Continuity is so important for the creditability of a story line. NI>SF>NI>True, so very, very true! NI>SF>NI>--- NI>SF>NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Either he's dead Jim, or my Tricorder is running Amiga NI>SF>Having the same people working on the show continuously helps. NI>Yes, that is very true! NI>--- NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Luxuriantly hand-crafted of only the finest ASCII. I hope the bosses keep this going. Date: Wednesday, December 4, 1996 1:25pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 723755 To: Nightbird Re: B5 (Reply to #723610, Reply to #723552, Reply to #722981, R*) (1 reply) NI>SF>I>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>This week will be the season premier of B5, so its a goo NI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>out. NI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>When and what time and what station? NI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Channel 9, 2 PM and 8 PM NI>SF>VI>SF>VI>What day? Did I miss it already??? NI>SF>VI>SF>Saturdays. Yes you missed that one, but try to watch anyway and I w NI>SF>VI>SF>answer any questions. NI>SF>VI>It's on bad times. It interferes with Bob time. :) NI>SF>So, get him involved so you can share. NI>I liked you advice to Vida although we may have to bring her up to speed NI>if she get interested in B5. NI>--- NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Never judge a man by his taglines. Between us I think we can fill her in. Date: Wednesday, December 4, 1996 1:26pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 723756 To: Steve C Re: B5 (Reply to #723633, Reply to #723554, Reply to #723086, R*) (1 reply) SC>SF>SC>SF>Continuity is so important for the creditability of a story line. SC>SF>SC>So true. but many other Sci-fi series's, especially the Trek spin-offs SC>SF>SC>tend to forget or ignore the continuity. It is a relief that B5 believ SC>SF>SC>in continuity. SC>SF>The continuity of the staff maintains the story line. SC>and they do an exceptional job of it on B5./ It really shows want prfessional continuity can produce. Date: Wednesday, December 4, 1996 10:05pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve C Msg#: 723764 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #723756, Reply to #723633, Reply to #723554, R*) (1 reply) SF>SC>SF>SC>SF>Continuity is so important for the creditability of a story line SF>SC>SF>SC>So true. but many other Sci-fi series's, especially the Trek spin-o SF>SC>SF>SC>tend to forget or ignore the continuity. It is a relief that B5 bel SF>SC>SF>SC>in continuity. SF>SC>SF>The continuity of the staff maintains the story line. SF>SC>and they do an exceptional job of it on B5./ SF>It really shows want prfessional continuity can produce. true. I wonder if JMS has any new show planned for after B5 finishes it run after season 5. Date: Wednesday, December 4, 1996 10:13pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve C Msg#: 723766 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #723752, Reply to #723597, Reply to #723549, R*) (1 reply) SF>NI>SF>NI>Hey, I love it. I've been watching B5 since the movie & so has my SF>NI>SF>NI>Steve! SF>NI>SF>So, what do you think of the new season so far? SF>NI>In a word INTENSE!!!! SF>NI>Damn, it's totally fantasic this season! SF>NI>--- SF>NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue. SF>Somehow I feel you need to watch both showings to catch all the fine SF>points. I sometimes watch an episode 3 or 4 times, especially the last two months of shows. Date: Thursday, December 5, 1996 8:56am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 723804 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #723751, Reply to #723577, Reply to #723552, R*) (3 replies) SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>This week will be the season premier of B5, so its a SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>out. SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>When and what time and what station? SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Channel 9, 2 PM and 8 PM SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>What day? Did I miss it already??? SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Saturdays. Yes you missed that one, but try to watch anyway and SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>answer any questions. SF>VI>SF>VI>It's on bad times. It interferes with Bob time. :) SF>VI>SF>So, get him involved so you can share. SF>VI>I would rather get him involved in another kind of joint project during SF>VI>the time the show is on. :) SF>You can sit up in bed for one hour can't you? We do that Star Trek Deep Space Nine which is on Saturday nights also. :) Date: Thursday, December 5, 1996 6:25pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 723818 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #723752, Reply to #723597, Reply to #723549, R*) (1 reply) SF>I>SF>NI>Hey, I love it. I've been watching B5 since the movie & so has my SF>NI>SF>NI>Steve! SF>NI>SF>So, what do you think of the new season so far? SF>NI>In a word INTENSE!!!! SF>NI>Damn, it's totally fantasic this season! SF>NI>--- SF>NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue. SF>Somehow I feel you need to watch both showings to catch all the fine SF>points. I'll tell you the truth, I actully tape B5 just so I can watch it again & again to get all there is in an eposode. --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Proofread carefully to see if you any words out. Date: Thursday, December 5, 1996 6:25pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 723819 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #723753, Reply to #723598, Reply to #723550, R*) (1 reply) SF>I>SF>I>SF>Saturday. SF>NI>SF>NI>OOPS! I feel really stupid! SF>NI>SF>NI>--- SF>NI>SF>NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Television was democracy at its ugliest, until the SF>NI>SF>It used to be shown on Sunday, so do not feel too bad. SF>NI>No problem! SF>NI>--- SF>NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ LOTUS - Let Only The Users Suffer SF>We actually could use a third showing per episode. True, we really could. --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Quick, call a Witch Doctor. My witch is sick!ÿþ Date: Thursday, December 5, 1996 6:25pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 723820 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #723754, Reply to #723599, Reply to #723551, R*) (1 reply) SF>I>SF>I>SF>Continuity is so important for the creditability of a story line. SF>NI>SF>NI>True, so very, very true! SF>NI>SF>NI>--- SF>NI>SF>NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Either he's dead Jim, or my Tricorder is running Am SF>NI>SF>Having the same people working on the show continuously helps. SF>NI>Yes, that is very true! SF>NI>--- SF>NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Luxuriantly hand-crafted of only the finest ASCII. SF>I hope the bosses keep this going. I hope so too! --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Reader not found..., please notify tagline. Date: Thursday, December 5, 1996 6:26pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 723821 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #723755, Reply to #723610, Reply to #723552, R*) (1 reply) SF>Between us I think we can fill her in. Hey, no problem. --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Real programmers use COPY CON: PROGNAME.EXE Date: Thursday, December 5, 1996 7:19pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 723849 To: Vida Re: B5 (Reply to #723804, Reply to #723751, Reply to #723577, R*) VI>SF>VI>I would rather get him involved in another kind of joint project durin VI>SF>VI>the time the show is on. :) VI>SF>You can sit up in bed for one hour can't you? VI>We do that Star Trek Deep Space Nine which is on Saturday nights also. VI>:) True, you can do that(or learn how to program your VCR!!!) --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ This message has been reviewed by The Censor(tm). Date: Saturday, December 7, 1996 3:25pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Merlin Msg#: 723919 To: Nightbird Re: World Fantasy Awards (Reply to #723487, Reply to #723442, Reply to #721566, R*) Date: Saturday, December 7, 1996 3:26pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Merlin Msg#: 723920 To: Steve Flur Re: Retro Hugos (Reply to #723556, Reply to #723439, Reply to #721536, R*) (1 reply) Thanks, Steve. I try. No awards now until the Nebs in April, by the way. Date: Saturday, December 7, 1996 3:26pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Merlin Msg#: 723921 To: Steve Flur Re: Hugos (Reply to #723557, Reply to #723440, Reply to #721537, R*) (1 reply) I'll try to check it out, thanks. Date: Saturday, December 7, 1996 3:28pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Merlin Msg#: 723922 To: Steve Flur Re: World Fantasy Awards (Reply to #723558, Reply to #723441, Reply to #721538, R*) (1 reply) Perhaps yes, perhaps no. The one thing that I've promised myself is that I'm neither going to write with an eye towards awards nor will I campaign for awards as so many others do. If something I write gets enough nominations to, for instance, make it to the preliminary ballot or something, then I'll make copies available to all who can vote. But I don't like the thought of pushing my work for an award. Date: Saturday, December 7, 1996 3:28pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Merlin Msg#: 723923 To: Steve Flur Re: World Fantasy Awards (Reply to #723559, Reply to #723443) (1 reply) 23, eh? Not bad for me, these days. :) Date: Monday, December 9, 1996 7:18pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 723998 To: Vida Re: B5 (Reply to #723804, Reply to #723751, Reply to #723577, R*) (1 reply) VI>SF>VI>I would rather get him involved in another kind of joint project durin VI>SF>VI>the time the show is on. :) VI>SF>You can sit up in bed for one hour can't you? VI>We do that Star Trek Deep Space Nine which is on Saturday nights also. VI>:) True, you can do that(or learn how to program your VCR!!!) --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ This message has been reviewed by The Censor(tm). Date: Tuesday, December 10, 1996 7:29am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 724036 To: Nightbird Re: B5 (Reply to #723998, Reply to #723804, Reply to #723751, R*) NI>VI>SF>VI>I would rather get him involved in another kind of joint project du NI>VI>SF>VI>the time the show is on. :) NI>VI>SF>You can sit up in bed for one hour can't you? NI>VI>We do that Star Trek Deep Space Nine which is on Saturday nights also. NI>VI>:) NI>True, you can do that(or learn how to program your VCR!!!) NI>--- Mission impossible. :) Date: Wednesday, December 18, 1996 3:07pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 724211 To: Steve C Re: B5 (Reply to #723764, Reply to #723756, Reply to #723633, R*) (1 reply) SC>SF>SC>SF>SC>SF>Continuity is so important for the creditability of a story l SC>SF>SC>SF>SC>So true. but many other Sci-fi series's, especially the Trek spi SC>SF>SC>SF>SC>tend to forget or ignore the continuity. It is a relief that B5 SC>SF>SC>SF>SC>in continuity. SC>SF>SC>SF>The continuity of the staff maintains the story line. SC>SF>SC>and they do an exceptional job of it on B5./ SC>SF>It really shows want prfessional continuity can produce. SC>true. I wonder if JMS has any new show planned for after B5 finishes it SC>run after season 5. I hope so! Date: Wednesday, December 18, 1996 3:08pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 724212 To: Steve C Re: B5 (Reply to #723766, Reply to #723752, Reply to #723597, R*) (1 reply) SC>SF>NI>SF>NI>Hey, I love it. I've been watching B5 since the movie & so has SC>SF>NI>SF>NI>Steve! SC>SF>NI>SF>So, what do you think of the new season so far? SC>SF>NI>In a word INTENSE!!!! SC>SF>NI>Damn, it's totally fantasic this season! SC>SF>NI>--- SC>SF>NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing gl SC>SF>Somehow I feel you need to watch both showings to catch all the fine SC>SF>points. SC>I sometimes watch an episode 3 or 4 times, especially the last two SC>months of shows. Now that they are re-running already you can see them 5-6 times. Date: Wednesday, December 18, 1996 3:08pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 724213 To: Vida Re: B5 (Reply to #723804, Reply to #723751, Reply to #723577, R*) (1 reply) VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>This week will be the season premier of B5, so it VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>out. VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>When and what time and what station? VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Channel 9, 2 PM and 8 PM VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>What day? Did I miss it already??? VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Saturdays. Yes you missed that one, but try to watch anyway a VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>answer any questions. VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>It's on bad times. It interferes with Bob time. :) VI>SF>VI>SF>So, get him involved so you can share. VI>SF>VI>I would rather get him involved in another kind of joint project durin VI>SF>VI>the time the show is on. :) VI>SF>You can sit up in bed for one hour can't you? VI>We do that Star Trek Deep Space Nine which is on Saturday nights also. VI>:) And B5 is the very next hour on channel 9. Date: Wednesday, December 18, 1996 3:09pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 724214 To: Nightbird Re: B5 (Reply to #723818, Reply to #723752, Reply to #723597, R*) (1 reply) NI>SF>I>SF>NI>Hey, I love it. I've been watching B5 since the movie & so has m NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>Steve! NI>SF>NI>SF>So, what do you think of the new season so far? NI>SF>NI>In a word INTENSE!!!! NI>SF>NI>Damn, it's totally fantasic this season! NI>SF>NI>--- NI>SF>NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing gl NI>SF>Somehow I feel you need to watch both showings to catch all the fine NI>SF>points. NI>I'll tell you the truth, I actully tape B5 just so I can watch it again NI>& again to get all there is in an eposode. NI>--- NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Proofread carefully to see if you any words out. At the rate they re-run why tape? Date: Wednesday, December 18, 1996 3:10pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 724215 To: Nightbird Re: B5 (Reply to #723819, Reply to #723753, Reply to #723598, R*) (1 reply) NI>SF>I>SF>I>SF>Saturday. NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>OOPS! I feel really stupid! NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>--- NI>SF>NI>SF>NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Television was democracy at its ugliest, until t NI>SF>NI>SF>It used to be shown on Sunday, so do not feel too bad. NI>SF>NI>No problem! NI>SF>NI>--- NI>SF>NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ LOTUS - Let Only The Users Suffer NI>SF>We actually could use a third showing per episode. NI>True, we really could. NI>--- NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Quick, call a Witch Doctor. My witch is sick!ÿþ I got my wish with the re-runs. Date: Wednesday, December 18, 1996 3:10pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 724216 To: Nightbird Re: B5 (Reply to #723820, Reply to #723754, Reply to #723599, R*) (1 reply) NI>SF>I>SF>I>SF>Continuity is so important for the creditability of a story lin NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>True, so very, very true! NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>--- NI>SF>NI>SF>NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Either he's dead Jim, or my Tricorder is running NI>SF>NI>SF>Having the same people working on the show continuously helps. NI>SF>NI>Yes, that is very true! NI>SF>NI>--- NI>SF>NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Luxuriantly hand-crafted of only the finest ASCII. NI>SF>I hope the bosses keep this going. NI>I hope so too! NI>--- NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Reader not found..., please notify tagline. So far the powers have granted B5 life. Date: Wednesday, December 18, 1996 3:11pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 724217 To: Nightbird Re: B5 (Reply to #723821, Reply to #723755, Reply to #723610, R*) (1 reply) NI>SF>Between us I think we can fill her in. NI>Hey, no problem. NI>--- NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Real programmers use COPY CON: PROGNAME.EXE Or she can catch the re-runs. Date: Wednesday, December 18, 1996 3:12pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 724218 To: Merlin Re: Retro Hugos (Reply to #723920, Reply to #723556, Reply to #723439, R*) Such a long period with no awards. Date: Wednesday, December 18, 1996 3:13pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 724219 To: Merlin Re: Hugos (Reply to #723921, Reply to #723557, Reply to #723440, R*) The warroom part of Vortex has had some interesting guests. Date: Wednesday, December 18, 1996 3:14pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 724220 To: Merlin Re: World Fantasy Awards (Reply to #723922, Reply to #723558, Reply to #723441, R*) Spoken like a true artists, struggeling artist, but an artist no less. Date: Wednesday, December 18, 1996 3:14pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 724221 To: Merlin Re: World Fantasy Awards (Reply to #723923, Reply to #723559, Reply to #723443) Even I am slowing up. Date: Wednesday, December 18, 1996 6:12pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 724230 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #724214, Reply to #723818, Reply to #723752, R*) (1 reply) SF>NI>I'll tell you the truth, I actully tape B5 just so I can watch it again SF>NI>& again to get all there is in an eposode. SF>At the rate they re-run why tape? True, but sometimes I don't get a chance to see the episode when it's first on so I tape it, watch it to death & then tape the next weeks episode on the same tape. --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ "I survived torture. I'm ready to date Lwaxana" Picard Date: Wednesday, December 18, 1996 6:12pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 724231 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #724215, Reply to #723819, Reply to #723753, R*) (1 reply) SF>I got my wish with the re-runs. Understood but I don't like waiting soooo long so I tape them. --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Spock/Data 2000! The logical choice. Date: Wednesday, December 18, 1996 6:12pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 724232 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #724216, Reply to #723820, Reply to #723754, R*) (1 reply) SF>So far the powers have granted B5 life. I'm sooo glad they have. --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Pentium Borg-Division is futile! You will be approximated Date: Wednesday, December 18, 1996 6:12pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 724233 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #724217, Reply to #723821, Reply to #723755, R*) (1 reply) SF>I>SF>Between us I think we can fill her in. SF>NI>Hey, no problem. SF>NI>--- SF>NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Real programmers use COPY CON: PROGNAME.EXE SF>Or she can catch the re-runs. Who going to talk her into it, me or you? --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ "How do I set my phaser to tickle?" Date: Wednesday, December 18, 1996 10:00pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve C Msg#: 724254 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #724212, Reply to #723766, Reply to #723752, R*) (1 reply) SF>SC>SF>NI>SF>NI>Hey, I love it. I've been watching B5 since the movie & so h SF>SC>SF>NI>SF>NI>Steve! SF>SC>SF>NI>SF>So, what do you think of the new season so far? SF>SC>SF>NI>In a word INTENSE!!!! SF>SC>SF>NI>Damn, it's totally fantasic this season! SF>SC>SF>NI>--- SF>SC>SF>NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing SF>SC>SF>Somehow I feel you need to watch both showings to catch all the fine SF>SC>SF>points. SF>SC>I sometimes watch an episode 3 or 4 times, especially the last two SF>SC>months of shows. SF>Now that they are re-running already you can see them 5-6 times. Oh Goody!!!!! Date: Wednesday, December 18, 1996 10:39pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 724266 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #724213, Reply to #723804, Reply to #723751, R*) (1 reply) SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>This week will be the season premier of B5, so SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>out. SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>When and what time and what station? SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Channel 9, 2 PM and 8 PM SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>What day? Did I miss it already??? SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Saturdays. Yes you missed that one, but try to watch anywa SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>answer any questions. SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>It's on bad times. It interferes with Bob time. :) SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>So, get him involved so you can share. SF>VI>SF>VI>I would rather get him involved in another kind of joint project du SF>VI>SF>VI>the time the show is on. :) SF>VI>SF>You can sit up in bed for one hour can't you? SF>VI>We do that Star Trek Deep Space Nine which is on Saturday nights also. SF>VI>:) SF>And B5 is the very next hour on channel 9. All the more reason not to watch any more TV. :) Date: Wednesday, January 8, 1997 2:20pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 725727 To: Nightbird Re: B5 (Reply to #724230, Reply to #724214, Reply to #723818, R*) (1 reply) NI>SF>NI>I'll tell you the truth, I actully tape B5 just so I can watch it agai NI>SF>NI>& again to get all there is in an eposode. NI>SF>At the rate they re-run why tape? NI>True, but sometimes I don't get a chance to see the episode when it's NI>first on so I tape it, watch it to death & then tape the next weeks NI>episode on the same tape. NI>--- NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ "I survived torture. I'm ready to date Lwaxana" Picard They appear to be approaching the end of the new re-runs. Date: Wednesday, January 8, 1997 2:20pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 725728 To: Nightbird Re: B5 (Reply to #724231, Reply to #724215, Reply to #723819, R*) (1 reply) NI>SF>I got my wish with the re-runs. NI>Understood but I don't like waiting soooo long so I tape them. NI>--- NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Spock/Data 2000! The logical choice. And they keep changing the schedule again. Date: Wednesday, January 8, 1997 2:21pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 725729 To: Nightbird Re: B5 (Reply to #724232, Reply to #724216, Reply to #723820, R*) (1 reply) NI>SF>So far the powers have granted B5 life. NI>I'm sooo glad they have. NI>--- NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Pentium Borg-Division is futile! You will be approximated A fifth season seems assured. Date: Wednesday, January 8, 1997 2:21pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 725730 To: Nightbird Re: B5 (Reply to #724233, Reply to #724217, Reply to #723821, R*) (1 reply) NI>SF>I>SF>Between us I think we can fill her in. NI>SF>NI>Hey, no problem. NI>SF>NI>--- NI>SF>NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Real programmers use COPY CON: PROGNAME.EXE NI>SF>Or she can catch the re-runs. NI>Who going to talk her into it, me or you? NI>--- NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ "How do I set my phaser to tickle?" You do it! Date: Wednesday, January 8, 1997 2:22pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 725731 To: Steve C Re: B5 (Reply to #724254, Reply to #724212, Reply to #723766, R*) (1 reply) SC>SF>SC>SF>NI>SF>NI>Hey, I love it. I've been watching B5 since the movie & s SC>SF>SC>SF>NI>SF>NI>Steve! SC>SF>SC>SF>NI>SF>So, what do you think of the new season so far? SC>SF>SC>SF>NI>In a word INTENSE!!!! SC>SF>SC>SF>NI>Damn, it's totally fantasic this season! SC>SF>SC>SF>NI>--- SC>SF>SC>SF>NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniff SC>SF>SC>SF>Somehow I feel you need to watch both showings to catch all the fin SC>SF>SC>SF>points. SC>SF>SC>I sometimes watch an episode 3 or 4 times, especially the last two SC>SF>SC>months of shows. SC>SF>Now that they are re-running already you can see them 5-6 times. SC>Oh Goody!!!!! And again and again! Date: Wednesday, January 8, 1997 2:23pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 725732 To: Vida Re: B5 (Reply to #724266, Reply to #724213, Reply to #723804, R*) (1 reply) VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>This week will be the season premier of B5, VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>out. VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>When and what time and what station? VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Channel 9, 2 PM and 8 PM VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>What day? Did I miss it already??? VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Saturdays. Yes you missed that one, but try to watch an VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>answer any questions. VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>It's on bad times. It interferes with Bob time. :) VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>So, get him involved so you can share. VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>I would rather get him involved in another kind of joint project VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>the time the show is on. :) VI>SF>VI>SF>You can sit up in bed for one hour can't you? VI>SF>VI>We do that Star Trek Deep Space Nine which is on Saturday nights also. VI>SF>VI>:) VI>SF>And B5 is the very next hour on channel 9. VI>All the more reason not to watch any more TV. :) Now there appears to a Sunday at 8 showing Date: Wednesday, January 8, 1997 9:13pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 725794 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #725732, Reply to #724266, Reply to #724213, R*) (1 reply) SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>This week will be the season premier of SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>out. SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>When and what time and what station? SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Channel 9, 2 PM and 8 PM SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>What day? Did I miss it already??? SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Saturdays. Yes you missed that one, but try to watch SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>answer any questions. SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>It's on bad times. It interferes with Bob time. :) SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>So, get him involved so you can share. SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>I would rather get him involved in another kind of joint proj SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>the time the show is on. :) SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>You can sit up in bed for one hour can't you? SF>VI>SF>VI>We do that Star Trek Deep Space Nine which is on Saturday nights al SF>VI>SF>VI>:) SF>VI>SF>And B5 is the very next hour on channel 9. SF>VI>All the more reason not to watch any more TV. :) SF>Now there appears to a Sunday at 8 showing OH, that's more of a possiblity! Assuming we finish "meal of the week" in time! :) Date: Saturday, October 5, 1996 8:46am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Lythande Msg#: 725973 To: ** ALL ** Re: hello (Fw by Lythande, Reply to #719737, Reply to #718065, Rep*) -------------< COMMENTS BY Lythande >-------------- TO: Tempest ----------< END OF COMMENTS BY Lythande >---------- TE>Where IS "Lythande" from??? Lythande is a mage of Sanctuary...... You can find Lythande either in a book by Marion ZImmer Bradley or in the Sanctuary series edited by Robert Lynne Asprin. Date: Sunday, October 6, 1996 10:23pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 725977 To: ** ALL ** Re: Lythande (Fw by Lythande, Reply to #720119, Reply to #718492, Rep*) -------------< COMMENTS BY Lythande >-------------- TO: Lythande ----------< END OF COMMENTS BY Lythande >---------- LY>NI>LY>May not be as easy as you think! I'm pretty sure Lythande only appear LY>NI>LY>in two books in stories by the original author. Lythande may have bee LY>NI>LY>in a couple more in stories by other authors, though. LY>NI>So tell me, where you found the name! Please, thanks LY>Lythande is a mage of Sanctuary - Marion Zimmer Bradley created Lythande LY>for a series of books written with a common world by different LY>authors.... Thanks alot, I'll have Steve pick me up a copy. Date: Friday, January 10, 1997 6:59pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 726028 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #725727, Reply to #724230, Reply to #724214, R*) (1 reply) SF>I>SF>NI>I'll tell you the truth, I actully tape B5 just so I can watch it ag SF>NI>SF>NI>& again to get all there is in an eposode. SF>NI>SF>At the rate they re-run why tape? SF>NI>True, but sometimes I don't get a chance to see the episode when it's SF>NI>first on so I tape it, watch it to death & then tape the next weeks SF>NI>episode on the same tape. SF>NI>--- SF>NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ "I survived torture. I'm ready to date Lwaxana" Picard SF>They appear to be approaching the end of the new re-runs. Good, I really want to see a new episode! --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ All of them fancy expensive cars looks alike to me anyway Date: Friday, January 10, 1997 6:59pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 726029 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #725728, Reply to #724231, Reply to #724215, R*) (1 reply) SF>I>SF>I got my wish with the re-runs. SF>NI>Understood but I don't like waiting soooo long so I tape them. SF>NI>--- SF>NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Spock/Data 2000! The logical choice. SF>And they keep changing the schedule again. I rather have them on one on Saturday & one of Sunday, instead of both on Saturday --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ ... I'm paranoid, but am I paranoid enough? Date: Friday, January 10, 1997 6:59pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 726030 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #725729, Reply to #724232, Reply to #724216, R*) (1 reply) SF>I>SF>So far the powers have granted B5 life. SF>NI>I'm sooo glad they have. SF>NI>--- SF>NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Pentium Borg-Division is futile! You will be approximated SF>A fifth season seems assured. I think it goes on cable after that, I really need to get cable! --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Synonym: word used when you can't spell the one you want Date: Friday, January 10, 1997 6:59pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 726031 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #725730, Reply to #724233, Reply to #724217, R*) (1 reply) SF>I>SF>I>SF>Between us I think we can fill her in. SF>NI>SF>NI>Hey, no problem. SF>NI>SF>NI>--- SF>NI>SF>NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Real programmers use COPY CON: PROGNAME.EXE SF>NI>SF>Or she can catch the re-runs. SF>NI>Who going to talk her into it, me or you? SF>NI>--- SF>NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ "How do I set my phaser to tickle?" SF>You do it! Help me out, if you can, please! --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Enter any 12-digit prime number to continue... Date: Saturday, January 11, 1997 10:30pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve C Msg#: 726151 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #725731, Reply to #724254, Reply to #724212, R*) (1 reply) SF>SC>SF>SC>SF>NI>SF>NI>Hey, I love it. I've been watching B5 since the movie SF>SC>SF>SC>SF>NI>SF>NI>Steve! SF>SC>SF>SC>SF>NI>SF>So, what do you think of the new season so far? SF>SC>SF>SC>SF>NI>In a word INTENSE!!!! SF>SC>SF>SC>SF>NI>Damn, it's totally fantasic this season! SF>SC>SF>SC>SF>NI>--- SF>SC>SF>SC>SF>NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sn SF>SC>SF>SC>SF>Somehow I feel you need to watch both showings to catch all the SF>SC>SF>SC>SF>points. SF>SC>SF>SC>I sometimes watch an episode 3 or 4 times, especially the last two SF>SC>SF>SC>months of shows. SF>SC>SF>Now that they are re-running already you can see them 5-6 times. SF>SC>Oh Goody!!!!! SF>And again and again! Dont worry Steve, they only have a couple of repeats remaining before we get a new episode. BTW, who do you think is controlling Garibaldi. I think it might be PsiCorp. Date: Tuesday, January 14, 1997 2:24pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 726455 To: Vida Re: B5 (Reply to #725794, Reply to #725732, Reply to #724266, R*) (1 reply) VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>This week will be the season premier VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>out. VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>When and what time and what station? VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Channel 9, 2 PM and 8 PM VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>What day? Did I miss it already??? VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Saturdays. Yes you missed that one, but try to wa VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>answer any questions. VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>It's on bad times. It interferes with Bob time. :) VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>So, get him involved so you can share. VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>I would rather get him involved in another kind of joint p VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>the time the show is on. :) VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>You can sit up in bed for one hour can't you? VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>We do that Star Trek Deep Space Nine which is on Saturday nights VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>:) VI>SF>VI>SF>And B5 is the very next hour on channel 9. VI>SF>VI>All the more reason not to watch any more TV. :) VI>SF>Now there appears to a Sunday at 8 showing VI>OH, that's more of a possiblity! Assuming we finish "meal of the week" VI>in time! :) Meal of the week? sounds like a horror film. Date: Tuesday, January 14, 1997 2:26pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 726456 To: Nightbird Re: B5 (Reply to #726028, Reply to #725727, Reply to #724230, R*) (1 reply) NI>SF>I>SF>NI>I'll tell you the truth, I actully tape B5 just so I can watch it NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>& again to get all there is in an eposode. NI>SF>NI>SF>At the rate they re-run why tape? NI>SF>NI>True, but sometimes I don't get a chance to see the episode when it's NI>SF>NI>first on so I tape it, watch it to death & then tape the next weeks NI>SF>NI>episode on the same tape. NI>SF>NI>--- NI>SF>NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ "I survived torture. I'm ready to date Lwaxana" Picard NI>SF>They appear to be approaching the end of the new re-runs. NI>Good, I really want to see a new episode! NI>--- NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ All of them fancy expensive cars looks alike to me anyway And it appears to now be scheduled at 8PM on Sat. and Sun. Date: Tuesday, January 14, 1997 2:26pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 726457 To: Nightbird Re: B5 (Reply to #726029, Reply to #725728, Reply to #724231, R*) (1 reply) NI>SF>I>SF>I got my wish with the re-runs. NI>SF>NI>Understood but I don't like waiting soooo long so I tape them. NI>SF>NI>--- NI>SF>NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Spock/Data 2000! The logical choice. NI>SF>And they keep changing the schedule again. NI>I rather have them on one on Saturday & one of Sunday, instead of both NI>on Saturday NI>--- NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ ... I'm paranoid, but am I paranoid enough? You got your wish! Date: Tuesday, January 14, 1997 2:27pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 726458 To: Nightbird Re: B5 (Reply to #726030, Reply to #725729, Reply to #724232, R*) (1 reply) NI>SF>I>SF>So far the powers have granted B5 life. NI>SF>NI>I'm sooo glad they have. NI>SF>NI>--- NI>SF>NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Pentium Borg-Division is futile! You will be approxima NI>SF>A fifth season seems assured. NI>I think it goes on cable after that, I really need to get cable! NI>--- NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Synonym: word used when you can't spell the one you want Thankfully I already have! Date: Tuesday, January 14, 1997 2:27pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 726460 To: Nightbird Re: B5 (Reply to #726031, Reply to #725730, Reply to #724233, R*) (1 reply) NI>SF>I>SF>I>SF>Between us I think we can fill her in. NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>Hey, no problem. NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>--- NI>SF>NI>SF>NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Real programmers use COPY CON: PROGNAME.EXE NI>SF>NI>SF>Or she can catch the re-runs. NI>SF>NI>Who going to talk her into it, me or you? NI>SF>NI>--- NI>SF>NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ "How do I set my phaser to tickle?" NI>SF>You do it! NI>Help me out, if you can, please! NI>--- NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Enter any 12-digit prime number to continue... I will try but then its your fault if she yells at me. Date: Tuesday, January 14, 1997 2:28pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 726461 To: Steve C Re: B5 (Reply to #726151, Reply to #725731, Reply to #724254, R*) (1 reply) SC>SF>SC>SF>SC>SF>NI>SF>NI>Hey, I love it. I've been watching B5 since the mov SC>SF>SC>SF>SC>SF>NI>SF>NI>Steve! SC>SF>SC>SF>SC>SF>NI>SF>So, what do you think of the new season so far? SC>SF>SC>SF>SC>SF>NI>In a word INTENSE!!!! SC>SF>SC>SF>SC>SF>NI>Damn, it's totally fantasic this season! SC>SF>SC>SF>SC>SF>NI>--- SC>SF>SC>SF>SC>SF>NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop SC>SF>SC>SF>SC>SF>Somehow I feel you need to watch both showings to catch all t SC>SF>SC>SF>SC>SF>points. SC>SF>SC>SF>SC>I sometimes watch an episode 3 or 4 times, especially the last t SC>SF>SC>SF>SC>months of shows. SC>SF>SC>SF>Now that they are re-running already you can see them 5-6 times. SC>SF>SC>Oh Goody!!!!! SC>SF>And again and again! SC>Dont worry Steve, they only have a couple of repeats remaining before we SC>get a new episode. SC>BTW, who do you think is controlling Garibaldi. I think it might be SC>PsiCorp. That's too obvious. What's the twist? Date: Monday, January 13, 1997 12:46am Forum: ScienceFiction From: AahzDeva Msg#: 726505 To: ** ALL ** Re: Hello (Copy by Lythande, Reply to #726126, Reply to #726104) Hello Johndrake Why Thanks JD, The handle is from a the "Myth Adventure" series by Robert Lynn Asprin. Aahz is a pervect from Perv. (a type of demon) but a nice guy. Deva is the market place of the world where he hangs out. Lythande is a Sweetie, I was just teasing her that I didn't know if she was male or female. I met her on IRC, and she told me about AH. AD Date: Tuesday, January 14, 1997 9:21pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 726551 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #726456, Reply to #726028, Reply to #725727, R*) (1 reply) SF>I>SF>I>SF>NI>I'll tell you the truth, I actully tape B5 just so I can watch SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>& again to get all there is in an eposode. SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>At the rate they re-run why tape? SF>NI>SF>NI>True, but sometimes I don't get a chance to see the episode when it SF>NI>SF>NI>first on so I tape it, watch it to death & then tape the next weeks SF>NI>SF>NI>episode on the same tape. SF>NI>SF>NI>--- SF>NI>SF>NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ "I survived torture. I'm ready to date Lwaxana" Pic SF>NI>SF>They appear to be approaching the end of the new re-runs. SF>NI>Good, I really want to see a new episode! SF>NI>--- SF>NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ All of them fancy expensive cars looks alike to me anyway SF>And it appears to now be scheduled at 8PM on Sat. and Sun. YUP! --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ What do you say to a baby Vorlon?..Koshy-koshy-coo! Date: Tuesday, January 14, 1997 9:21pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 726552 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #726457, Reply to #726029, Reply to #725728, R*) SF>I>SF>I>SF>I got my wish with the re-runs. SF>NI>SF>NI>Understood but I don't like waiting soooo long so I tape them. SF>NI>SF>NI>--- SF>NI>SF>NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Spock/Data 2000! The logical choice. SF>NI>SF>And they keep changing the schedule again. SF>NI>I rather have them on one on Saturday & one of Sunday, instead of both SF>NI>on Saturday SF>NI>--- SF>NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ ... I'm paranoid, but am I paranoid enough? SF>You got your wish! Cool! --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Try? Try not. Do, or do not. There is no try. Date: Tuesday, January 14, 1997 9:21pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 726553 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #726458, Reply to #726030, Reply to #725729, R*) SF>I>SF>I>SF>So far the powers have granted B5 life. SF>NI>SF>NI>I'm sooo glad they have. SF>NI>SF>NI>--- SF>NI>SF>NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Pentium Borg-Division is futile! You will be approx SF>NI>SF>A fifth season seems assured. SF>NI>I think it goes on cable after that, I really need to get cable! SF>NI>--- SF>NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Synonym: word used when you can't spell the one you want SF>Thankfully I already have! I don't really get much of a chance to watch tv, you maybe in a few months, I'll get cable. --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ I suppose you are looking here for some new witticism? Date: Tuesday, January 14, 1997 9:22pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 726554 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #726460, Reply to #726031, Reply to #725730, R*) SF>I>SF>I>SF>I>SF>Between us I think we can fill her in. SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>Hey, no problem. SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>--- SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Real programmers use COPY CON: PROGNAME.EXE SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>Or she can catch the re-runs. SF>NI>SF>NI>Who going to talk her into it, me or you? SF>NI>SF>NI>--- SF>NI>SF>NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ "How do I set my phaser to tickle?" SF>NI>SF>You do it! SF>NI>Help me out, if you can, please! SF>NI>--- SF>NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Enter any 12-digit prime number to continue... SF>I will try but then its your fault if she yells at me. OK, I'll take that! --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ A seminar on Time Travel will be held two weeks ago. Date: Tuesday, January 14, 1997 10:46pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve C Msg#: 726606 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #726461, Reply to #726151, Reply to #725731, R*) (1 reply) SF>SC>SF>SC>SF>SC>SF>NI>SF>NI>Hey, I love it. I've been watching B5 since the SF>SC>SF>SC>SF>SC>SF>NI>SF>NI>Steve! SF>SC>SF>SC>SF>SC>SF>NI>SF>So, what do you think of the new season so far? SF>SC>SF>SC>SF>SC>SF>NI>In a word INTENSE!!!! SF>SC>SF>SC>SF>SC>SF>NI>Damn, it's totally fantasic this season! SF>SC>SF>SC>SF>SC>SF>NI>--- SF>SC>SF>SC>SF>SC>SF>NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Looks like I picked the wrong week to s SF>SC>SF>SC>SF>SC>SF>Somehow I feel you need to watch both showings to catch al SF>SC>SF>SC>SF>SC>SF>points. SF>SC>SF>SC>SF>SC>I sometimes watch an episode 3 or 4 times, especially the las SF>SC>SF>SC>SF>SC>months of shows. SF>SC>SF>SC>SF>Now that they are re-running already you can see them 5-6 times. SF>SC>SF>SC>Oh Goody!!!!! SF>SC>SF>And again and again! SF>SC>Dont worry Steve, they only have a couple of repeats remaining before we SF>SC>get a new episode. SF>SC>BTW, who do you think is controlling Garibaldi. I think it might be SF>SC>PsiCorp. SF>That's too obvious. What's the twist? I haven't figured that one out yet./s Date: Wednesday, January 15, 1997 8:39pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 726688 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #726455, Reply to #725794, Reply to #725732, R*) (1 reply) SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>This week will be the season premi SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>out. SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>When and what time and what station? SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Channel 9, 2 PM and 8 PM SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>What day? Did I miss it already??? SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Saturdays. Yes you missed that one, but try to SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>answer any questions. SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>It's on bad times. It interferes with Bob time. SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>So, get him involved so you can share. SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>I would rather get him involved in another kind of join SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>the time the show is on. :) SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>You can sit up in bed for one hour can't you? SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>We do that Star Trek Deep Space Nine which is on Saturday nig SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>:) SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>And B5 is the very next hour on channel 9. SF>VI>SF>VI>All the more reason not to watch any more TV. :) SF>VI>SF>Now there appears to a Sunday at 8 showing SF>VI>OH, that's more of a possiblity! Assuming we finish "meal of the week" SF>VI>in time! :) SF>Meal of the week? sounds like a horror film. Nope, it's a Sunday tradition. I cook a meal on Sunday evenings, which we share after Bob returns his daughter over to his ex's apartment. Date: Tuesday, February 18, 1997 2:20pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 729892 To: Nightbird Re: B5 (Reply to #726551, Reply to #726456, Reply to #726028, R*) So....what do you think of B5 now that the Shadow war is over, etc.? Date: Tuesday, February 18, 1997 2:23pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 729893 To: Steve C Re: B5 (Reply to #726606, Reply to #726461, Reply to #726151, R*) (1 reply) So, now that the Shadow war is over, the Psi cops are back and Garibaldi appears controled, what do you think of B5? Date: Tuesday, February 18, 1997 2:23pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 729894 To: Vida Re: B5 (Reply to #726688, Reply to #726455, Reply to #725794, R*) (1 reply) No matter what B5 is worth watching. Date: Tuesday, February 18, 1997 7:48pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 729919 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #729894, Reply to #726688, Reply to #726455, R*) (1 reply) SF>No matter what B5 is worth watching. I actually tried watching it last Saturday night. Was totally lost and give it up after 15-20 minutes. :( Date: Wednesday, February 19, 1997 10:33am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 729946 To: Vida Re: B5 (Reply to #729919, Reply to #729894, Reply to #726688, R*) (2 replies) VI>SF>No matter what B5 is worth watching. VI>I actually tried watching it last Saturday night. Was totally lost and VI>give it up after 15-20 minutes. :( Don't give up that quickly, its a show worth watching. Date: Thursday, February 20, 1997 6:06pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve C Msg#: 729994 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #729893, Reply to #726606, Reply to #726461, R*) (1 reply) SF>So, now that the Shadow war is over, the Psi cops are back and Garibaldi SF>appears controled, what do you think of B5? I think that Strasinski (sp?), the shows producer, has something up his sleeve I dont know what it is, but I think we are in for some suprizes Date: Friday, February 21, 1997 7:42am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 730017 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #729946, Reply to #729919, Reply to #729894, R*) (2 replies) SF>VI>SF>No matter what B5 is worth watching. SF>VI>I actually tried watching it last Saturday night. Was totally lost and SF>VI>give it up after 15-20 minutes. :( SF>Don't give up that quickly, its a show worth watching. Perhaps if I could ever watch it with a friend who could explain to me what the hell was going on! Date: Friday, February 21, 1997 2:48pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 730035 To: Steve C Re: B5 (Reply to #729994, Reply to #729893, Reply to #726606, R*) SC>SF>So, now that the Shadow war is over, the Psi cops are back and Garibaldi SC>SF>appears controled, what do you think of B5? SC>I think that Strasinski (sp?), the shows producer, has something up his SC>sleeve SC>I dont know what it is, but I think we are in for some suprizes With B5 thats a given! Date: Friday, February 21, 1997 2:49pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 730036 To: Vida Re: B5 (Reply to #730017, Reply to #729946, Reply to #729919, R*) (1 reply) VI>SF>VI>SF>No matter what B5 is worth watching. VI>SF>VI>I actually tried watching it last Saturday night. Was totally lost an VI>SF>VI>give it up after 15-20 minutes. :( VI>SF>Don't give up that quickly, its a show worth watching. VI>Perhaps if I could ever watch it with a friend who could explain to me VI>what the hell was going on! There are at least three here who can fill in any blanks. Date: Friday, February 21, 1997 6:13pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 730051 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #730036, Reply to #730017, Reply to #729946, R*) (2 replies) SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>No matter what B5 is worth watching. SF>VI>SF>VI>I actually tried watching it last Saturday night. Was totally lost SF>VI>SF>VI>give it up after 15-20 minutes. :( SF>VI>SF>Don't give up that quickly, its a show worth watching. SF>VI>Perhaps if I could ever watch it with a friend who could explain to me SF>VI>what the hell was going on! SF>There are at least three here who can fill in any blanks. Yes, but so far I have not received any offers from anyone to do so. Date: Tuesday, February 25, 1997 1:37pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 730240 To: Vida Re: B5 (Reply to #730051, Reply to #730036, Reply to #730017, R*) (1 reply) VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>No matter what B5 is worth watching. VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>I actually tried watching it last Saturday night. Was totally l VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>give it up after 15-20 minutes. :( VI>SF>VI>SF>Don't give up that quickly, its a show worth watching. VI>SF>VI>Perhaps if I could ever watch it with a friend who could explain to me VI>SF>VI>what the hell was going on! VI>SF>There are at least three here who can fill in any blanks. VI>Yes, but so far I have not received any offers from anyone to do so. Ask away any question any time. Date: Tuesday, February 25, 1997 8:06pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 730255 To: Vida Re: B5 (Reply to #730017, Reply to #729946, Reply to #729919, R*) (2 replies) Hi, wasn't B5 intense last weekend!!!! Date: Wednesday, February 26, 1997 7:09am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 730300 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #730240, Reply to #730051, Reply to #730036, R*) (1 reply) SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>No matter what B5 is worth watching. SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>I actually tried watching it last Saturday night. Was totall SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>give it up after 15-20 minutes. :( SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Don't give up that quickly, its a show worth watching. SF>VI>SF>VI>Perhaps if I could ever watch it with a friend who could explain to SF>VI>SF>VI>what the hell was going on! SF>VI>SF>There are at least three here who can fill in any blanks. SF>VI>Yes, but so far I have not received any offers from anyone to do so. SF>Ask away any question any time. What I would need is an actual body with me while watching the show. :) Date: Wednesday, February 26, 1997 7:09am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 730301 To: Nightbird Re: B5 (Reply to #730255, Reply to #730017, Reply to #729946, R*) (1 reply) NI>Hi, wasn't B5 intense last weekend!!!! Sorry didn't watch it. Between you and Steve Flur, sssh! :) Date: Wednesday, February 26, 1997 1:31pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 730329 To: Nightbird Re: B5 (Reply to #730255, Reply to #730017, Reply to #729946, R*) (1 reply) NI>Hi, wasn't B5 intense last weekend!!!! She has not yet learnt the joys of B5! Date: Wednesday, February 26, 1997 1:32pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 730330 To: Vida Re: B5 (Reply to #730300, Reply to #730240, Reply to #730051, R*) (1 reply) VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>No matter what B5 is worth watching. VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>I actually tried watching it last Saturday night. Was tot VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>give it up after 15-20 minutes. :( VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Don't give up that quickly, its a show worth watching. VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>Perhaps if I could ever watch it with a friend who could explain VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>what the hell was going on! VI>SF>VI>SF>There are at least three here who can fill in any blanks. VI>SF>VI>Yes, but so far I have not received any offers from anyone to do so. VI>SF>Ask away any question any time. VI>What I would need is an actual body with me while watching the show. :) Careful before we get transported to xrated land. Date: Wednesday, February 26, 1997 7:29pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 730345 To: Vida Re: B5 (Reply to #730301, Reply to #730255, Reply to #730017, R*) VI>NI>Hi, wasn't B5 intense last weekend!!!! VI>Sorry didn't watch it. Between you and Steve Flur, sssh! :) Too bad!! --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Syrup lovers stick together. - Paul Knupke jr Date: Wednesday, February 26, 1997 7:29pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 730346 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #730329, Reply to #730255, Reply to #730017, R*) (1 reply) SF>I>Hi, wasn't B5 intense last weekend!!!! SF>She has not yet learnt the joys of B5! She will learn very soon!!! --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Agnodyslexic plea: "Why me, dog?" Date: Thursday, February 27, 1997 7:27am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 730365 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #730330, Reply to #730300, Reply to #730240, R*) (2 replies) SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>No matter what B5 is worth watching. SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>I actually tried watching it last Saturday night. Was SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>give it up after 15-20 minutes. :( SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Don't give up that quickly, its a show worth watching. SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>Perhaps if I could ever watch it with a friend who could expl SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>what the hell was going on! SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>There are at least three here who can fill in any blanks. SF>VI>SF>VI>Yes, but so far I have not received any offers from anyone to do so SF>VI>SF>Ask away any question any time. SF>VI>What I would need is an actual body with me while watching the show. :) SF>Careful before we get transported to xrated land. Hey, you're the one with the perverted mind, not me. :) Date: Thursday, February 27, 1997 6:57pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 730386 To: Vida Re: B5 (Reply to #730365, Reply to #730330, Reply to #730300, R*) VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>No matter what B5 is worth watching. VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>I actually tried watching it last Saturday night. W VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>give it up after 15-20 minutes. :( VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Don't give up that quickly, its a show worth watching. VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>Perhaps if I could ever watch it with a friend who could e VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>what the hell was going on! VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>There are at least three here who can fill in any blanks. VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>Yes, but so far I have not received any offers from anyone to do VI>SF>VI>SF>Ask away any question any time. VI>SF>VI>What I would need is an actual body with me while watching the show. VI>SF>Careful before we get transported to xrated land. VI>Hey, you're the one with the perverted mind, not me. :) Is that all that bad? --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ #30-3771: É™» What the heck does arachniphobia mean? É™» Date: Monday, March 3, 1997 9:40pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Conundrum Msg#: 730553 To: Steve Flur Re: star trek (Reply to #723555, Reply to #723111, Reply to #714850, R*) (1 reply) SF>CO>Well, that's the problem. ON the other hand, with something like B5, SF>CO>where the story has actual progression and change (especially this SF>CO>season -- whoa boy), it's a lot harder to forget. SF>And your opinion of this season is? With a few minor problems (and unfortunately quite a few writing problems -- JMS needs to let someone else write some episodes for a change, methinks), still very, very good. Date: Monday, March 3, 1997 9:45pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Conundrum Msg#: 730554 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #724211, Reply to #723764, Reply to #723756, R*) (1 reply) SF>SC>SF>It really shows want prfessional continuity can produce. SF>SC>true. I wonder if JMS has any new show planned for after B5 finishes it SF>SC>run after season 5. SF>I hope so! Actually, JMS presently has an agreement with TNT to pick up the syndication rights, as well as produce 2 2-hour B5 movies and a NEW 5 year story about the Rangers! On the down-side, I haven't yet heard anything contradicting the las word that since PTEN wasn't in existance any more except for the part supporting B5, the station was unlikely to get another season (so JMS is squeezing the rest of the arc into the last half of the 4th season, I think). Date: Monday, March 3, 1997 9:56pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Conundrum Msg#: 730555 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #729946, Reply to #729919, Reply to #729894, R*) (1 reply) SF>VI>SF>No matter what B5 is worth watching. SF>VI>I actually tried watching it last Saturday night. Was totally lost and SF>VI>give it up after 15-20 minutes. :( SF>Don't give up that quickly, its a show worth watching. It's also designed to have an on-ramp of about 3 eps -- once you watch 3 eposides, you certainly won't catch some of the subtilties (like the fact that (minor spoilers for "Redemptions" coming...) Coming.... One more... And wasn't it SOO good? Anways, lots of things in the latest episode, notably the whole scene where Delenn won't look at Ducat's face, are far more interesting if you've seen some of the earlier B5 episodes. Regardless, after 3 episodes, you should know enough to comprehend the events as they happen, as well as know all the major players and their motives. Those few who don't show up all that often (Psi Core people, for instance), are likely to be pretty obvious even to the casual viewer. Date: Monday, March 3, 1997 10:00pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Conundrum Msg#: 730556 To: Vida Re: B5 (Reply to #730051, Reply to #730036, Reply to #730017, R*) (1 reply) VI>SF>VI>Perhaps if I could ever watch it with a friend who could explain to me VI>SF>VI>what the hell was going on! VI>SF>There are at least three here who can fill in any blanks. VI>Yes, but so far I have not received any offers from anyone to do so. I can do -- I also have access to a set of the first and second season's tapes. Also, since you are on the net, why not try the Lurker's Guide? This is a spoiler-free (at least, spoiler protected) web site, with everything from synopses of every episode shown to descriptions of all the characters, alliances, plots, and major governments. Date: Tuesday, March 4, 1997 7:41am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 730569 To: Conundrum Re: B5 (Reply to #730556, Reply to #730051, Reply to #730036, R*) (1 reply) CO>VI>SF>VI>Perhaps if I could ever watch it with a friend who could explain to CO>VI>SF>VI>what the hell was going on! CO>VI>SF>There are at least three here who can fill in any blanks. CO>VI>Yes, but so far I have not received any offers from anyone to do so. CO>I can do -- I also have access to a set of the first and second season's CO>tapes. CO>Also, since you are on the net, why not try the Lurker's Guide? This is CO>a spoiler-free (at least, spoiler protected) web site, with everything CO>from synopses of every episode shown to descriptions of all the CO>characters, alliances, plots, and major governments. Lurker's Guide sounds like an interesting site for me to investigate. Do you have the url? Date: Wednesday, March 5, 1997 12:38pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 730668 To: Nightbird Re: B5 (Reply to #730346, Reply to #730329, Reply to #730255, R*) (1 reply) NI>SF>I>Hi, wasn't B5 intense last weekend!!!! NI>SF>She has not yet learnt the joys of B5! NI>She will learn very soon!!! NI>--- NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Agnodyslexic plea: "Why me, dog?" Especially if we do not let her forget. Date: Wednesday, March 5, 1997 12:38pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 730669 To: Vida Re: B5 (Reply to #730365, Reply to #730330, Reply to #730300, R*) (1 reply) VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>No matter what B5 is worth watching. VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>I actually tried watching it last Saturday night. W VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>give it up after 15-20 minutes. :( VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Don't give up that quickly, its a show worth watching. VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>Perhaps if I could ever watch it with a friend who could e VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>what the hell was going on! VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>There are at least three here who can fill in any blanks. VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>Yes, but so far I have not received any offers from anyone to do VI>SF>VI>SF>Ask away any question any time. VI>SF>VI>What I would need is an actual body with me while watching the show. VI>SF>Careful before we get transported to xrated land. VI>Hey, you're the one with the perverted mind, not me. :) Hey....who here asked for the real body? Date: Wednesday, March 5, 1997 12:39pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 730670 To: Conundrum Re: star trek (Reply to #730553, Reply to #723555, Reply to #723111, R*) (1 reply) CO>SF>CO>Well, that's the problem. ON the other hand, with something like B5, CO>SF>CO>where the story has actual progression and change (especially this CO>SF>CO>season -- whoa boy), it's a lot harder to forget. CO>SF>And your opinion of this season is? CO>With a few minor problems (and unfortunately quite a few writing CO>problems -- JMS needs to let someone else write some episodes for a CO>change, methinks), still very, very good. And the minor problems are....... Date: Wednesday, March 5, 1997 12:41pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 730671 To: Conundrum Re: B5 (Reply to #730554, Reply to #724211, Reply to #723764, R*) (1 reply) CO>SF>SC>SF>It really shows want prfessional continuity can produce. CO>SF>SC>true. I wonder if JMS has any new show planned for after B5 finishes i CO>SF>SC>run after season 5. CO>SF>I hope so! CO>Actually, JMS presently has an agreement with TNT to pick up the CO>syndication rights, as well as produce 2 2-hour B5 movies and a NEW 5 CO>year story about the Rangers! On the down-side, I haven't yet heard CO>anything contradicting the las word that since PTEN wasn't in existance CO>any more except for the part supporting B5, the station was unlikely to CO>get another season (so JMS is squeezing the rest of the arc into the CO>last half of the 4th season, I think). I will be disappointed if he does not get the 5 years he planned. Date: Wednesday, March 5, 1997 12:43pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 730672 To: Conundrum Re: B5 (Reply to #730555, Reply to #729946, Reply to #729919, R*) I got my mother hooked on it over the summer re-runs and now she does not miss an episode. Too bad this week will be a re-run again. Date: Wednesday, March 5, 1997 7:25pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 730684 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #730668, Reply to #730346, Reply to #730329, R*) (1 reply) SF>I>SF>I>Hi, wasn't B5 intense last weekend!!!! SF>NI>SF>She has not yet learnt the joys of B5! SF>NI>She will learn very soon!!! SF>NI>--- SF>NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Agnodyslexic plea: "Why me, dog?" SF>Especially if we do not let her forget. If course we won't!!!! --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ I would gladly sue you Tuesday for insulting me today. Date: Thursday, March 6, 1997 1:54pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 730693 To: Nightbird Re: B5 (Reply to #730684, Reply to #730668, Reply to #730346, R*) (2 replies) NI>SF>I>SF>I>Hi, wasn't B5 intense last weekend!!!! NI>SF>NI>SF>She has not yet learnt the joys of B5! NI>SF>NI>She will learn very soon!!! NI>SF>NI>--- NI>SF>NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Agnodyslexic plea: "Why me, dog?" NI>SF>Especially if we do not let her forget. NI>If course we won't!!!! NI>--- NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ I would gladly sue you Tuesday for insulting me today. I will let you take the lead! Date: Thursday, March 6, 1997 7:11pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 730698 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #730693, Reply to #730684, Reply to #730668, R*) (1 reply) SF>I>SF>I>SF>I>Hi, wasn't B5 intense last weekend!!!! SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>She has not yet learnt the joys of B5! SF>NI>SF>NI>She will learn very soon!!! SF>NI>SF>NI>--- SF>NI>SF>NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Agnodyslexic plea: "Why me, dog?" SF>NI>SF>Especially if we do not let her forget. SF>NI>If course we won't!!!! SF>NI>--- SF>NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ I would gladly sue you Tuesday for insulting me today. SF>I will let you take the lead! Why thank you sir! Hey by the way, what did you think of last week's episode? --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Unable to locate Coffee -- Operator Halted! Date: Friday, March 7, 1997 2:25pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 730759 To: Nightbird Re: B5 (Reply to #730698, Reply to #730693, Reply to #730684, R*) (1 reply) NI>SF>I>SF>I>SF>I>Hi, wasn't B5 intense last weekend!!!! NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>She has not yet learnt the joys of B5! NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>She will learn very soon!!! NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>--- NI>SF>NI>SF>NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Agnodyslexic plea: "Why me, dog?" NI>SF>NI>SF>Especially if we do not let her forget. NI>SF>NI>If course we won't!!!! NI>SF>NI>--- NI>SF>NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ I would gladly sue you Tuesday for insulting me today. NI>SF>I will let you take the lead! NI>Why thank you sir! NI>Hey by the way, what did you think of last week's episode? NI>--- NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Unable to locate Coffee -- Operator Halted! I found the idea that Dalen and Sinclair were both co-workers and ancestor and decendant, removed by 1,000 years. Date: Friday, March 7, 1997 6:39pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve C Msg#: 730765 To: Vida Re: B5 File: BABYLON.ZIP (Reply to #730693, Reply to #730684, Reply to #730668, R*) NI>Hi, wasn't B5 intense last weekend!!!! SF>She has not yet learnt the joys of B5! NI>She will learn very soon!!! --- SF>Especially if we do not let her forget. NI>If course we won't!!!! --- SF>I will let you take the lead! I'll take it. Hi Vida, If you want to start watching babylon 5 , but can't get up to speed on it , the attached file may help. It gives an overview of the story and character descriptions of the first 3 seasons. If you or anyone else is interested, I also have a logbook file which has storylines for B-5, DS9, Red Dwarf, ST Next Generation, original ST , Voyager, and Blakes 7. If anyone wants these I will upload them also. Date: Friday, March 7, 1997 7:25pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 730776 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #730759, Reply to #730698, Reply to #730693, R*) (1 reply) SF>NI>Hey by the way, what did you think of last week's episode? SF>I found the idea that Dalen and Sinclair were both co-workers and SF>ancestor and decendant, removed by 1,000 years. Actully, Valen & Sinclair are one in the same person(Valen is Minbari not born of Minbar)and Delenn is one his decendents. --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ A thing worth doing well is worth doing slow.-Gypsy R.Lee Date: Saturday, March 8, 1997 6:29pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 730865 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #730669, Reply to #730365, Reply to #730330, R*) (1 reply) SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>No matter what B5 is worth watching. SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>I actually tried watching it last Saturday night. SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>give it up after 15-20 minutes. :( SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Don't give up that quickly, its a show worth watchin SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>Perhaps if I could ever watch it with a friend who coul SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>what the hell was going on! SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>There are at least three here who can fill in any blanks. SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>Yes, but so far I have not received any offers from anyone to SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Ask away any question any time. SF>VI>SF>VI>What I would need is an actual body with me while watching the show SF>VI>SF>Careful before we get transported to xrated land. SF>VI>Hey, you're the one with the perverted mind, not me. :) SF>Hey....who here asked for the real body? But you were the one who thought I wanted that body for any other purpose but to explain what was going on in B5. :) Date: Monday, March 10, 1997 11:20am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 730917 To: Nightbird Re: B5 (Reply to #730776, Reply to #730759, Reply to #730698, R*) (1 reply) NI>SF>NI>Hey by the way, what did you think of last week's episode? NI>SF>I found the idea that Dalen and Sinclair were both co-workers and NI>SF>ancestor and decendant, removed by 1,000 years. NI>Actully, Valen & Sinclair are one in the same person(Valen is Minbari NI>not born of Minbar)and Delenn is one his decendents. NI>--- NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ A thing worth doing well is worth doing slow.-Gypsy R.Lee Show off! Date: Monday, March 10, 1997 11:21am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 730918 To: Vida Re: B5 (Reply to #730865, Reply to #730669, Reply to #730365, R*) (1 reply) So, did d/l the file Steve C. left so you finally have no excuse not to watch? Date: Tuesday, March 11, 1997 7:11am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 730949 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #730918, Reply to #730865, Reply to #730669, R*) (2 replies) SF>So, did d/l the file Steve C. left so you finally have no excuse not to SF>watch? What me download? :) Date: Tuesday, March 11, 1997 11:52am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 730965 To: Vida Re: B5 (Reply to #730949, Reply to #730918, Reply to #730865, R*) (1 reply) VI>SF>So, did d/l the file Steve C. left so you finally have no excuse not to VI>SF>watch? VI>What me download? :) So, did it help. Date: Wednesday, March 12, 1997 8:14am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 731084 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #730965, Reply to #730949, Reply to #730918, R*) (1 reply) SF>VI>SF>So, did d/l the file Steve C. left so you finally have no excuse not t SF>VI>SF>watch? SF>VI>What me download? :) SF>So, did it help. What download? What are you talking about? :) Date: Wednesday, March 12, 1997 10:01am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 731102 To: Vida Re: B5 (Reply to #731084, Reply to #730965, Reply to #730949, R*) (1 reply) VI>SF>VI>SF>So, did d/l the file Steve C. left so you finally have no excuse no VI>SF>VI>SF>watch? VI>SF>VI>What me download? :) VI>SF>So, did it help. VI>What download? What are you talking about? :) Message #730765 to you from Steve C. containing file Babylon.Zip. Date: Saturday, March 15, 1997 9:09am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 731328 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #731102, Reply to #731084, Reply to #730965, R*) (1 reply) SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>So, did d/l the file Steve C. left so you finally have no excuse SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>watch? SF>VI>SF>VI>What me download? :) SF>VI>SF>So, did it help. SF>VI>What download? What are you talking about? :) SF>Message #730765 to you from Steve C. containing file Babylon.Zip. What's that? What are you talking about? :) Date: Monday, March 17, 1997 12:55pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 731423 To: Vida Re: B5 (Reply to #731328, Reply to #731102, Rgply to #731084, R*) (1 reply) VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>So, did d/l the file Steve C. left so you finally have no exc VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>watch? VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>What me download? :) VI>SF>VI>SF>So, did it help. VI>SF>VI>What download? What are you talking about? :) VI>SF>Message #730765 to you from Steve C. containing file Babylon.Zip. VI>What's that? What are you talking about? :) Avoiding again are we? Date: Monday, March 17, 1997 7:54pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 731462 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #731423, Reply to #731328, Reply to #731102, R*) (1 reply) SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>So, did d/l the file Steve C. left so you finally have no SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>watch? SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>What me download? :) SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>So, did it help. SF>VI>SF>VI>What download? What are you talking about? :) SF>VI>SF>Message #730765 to you from Steve C. containing file Babylon.Zip. SF>VI>What's that? What are you talking about? :) SF>Avoiding again are we? Sure looks that way doesn't it. :) Maybe you will finally take the hint. Date: Tuesday, March 18, 1997 12:13pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 731479 To: Vida Re: B5 (Reply to #731462, Reply to #731423, Reply to #731328, R*) VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>So, did d/l the file Steve C. left so you finally have VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>watch? VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>What me download? :) VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>So, did it help. VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>What download? What are you talking about? :) VI>SF>VI>SF>Message #730765 to you from Steve C. containing file Babylon.Zip. VI>SF>VI>What's that? What are you talking about? :) VI>SF>Avoiding again are we? VI>Sure looks that way doesn't it. :) VI>Maybe you will finally take the hint. It's your lose, not mine. Date: Thursday, March 20, 1997 6:40am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Merlin Msg#: 731540 To: ** ALL ** Re: Nebulas (2 replies) This is a bit later than I'd expected I'd get it here, but it's a few weeks prior to the banquet which will be held on Saturday, April 19 in Kansas City. Here are the finalist for this year's Nebula Awards Novels = Griffith, Nicola: Slow River (Del Rey, Aug95) = Hoffman, Nina Kiriki: The Silent Strength of Stones (AvoNova, Sep95) = McKillip, Patricia: Winter Rose (Ace, Jul96) = Powers, Tim: Expiration Date (Tor, Jan96) = Sawyer, Robert J.: Starplex (Anlg: 7/96-10/96; Ace 10/96) = Stephenson, Neal: The Diamond Age (Bantam, Feb95) Novellas = Dann, Jack: Da Vinci Rising (Asimov's, May95) = Le Guin, Ursula K.: A Woman's Liberation (Asimov's, Jul95) = Martin, George R.R. : Blood of the Dragon (Asimov's, Jul96) = McDevitt, Jack: Time Travellers Never Die (Asimov's, May96) = McHugh, Maureen: The Cost to Be Wise (Starlight 1, Sep96) = Steele, Allen: The Death of Captain Future (Asimov's, Oct95) Novelettes = Ford, John M.: Erase/Record/Play (Starlight 1, Sep96) = Guthridge, George: Mirror of Lop Nor (Immortal Unicorn, Beagle & Berliner, Ed., HarperPrism, Oct95) = Levinson, Paul: The Chronology Protection Case (Analog, Sep95) = Rogers, Bruce Holland: Lifeboat on a Burning Sea (F&SF, Nov95 ) = Turtledove, Harry: Must and Shall (Asimov's, Nov95) = Wilson, Robert Charles: The Perseids (Realms of Fantasy, Dec95 ) = Wolverton, Dave: After a Lean Winter (F&SF, Mar96 ) Short Story = Brewster, Kent: In the Pound, Near Breaktime (Tomorrow SF, Oct95) = Friesner, Esther M.: A Birthday (F&SF, Aug95) = Goonan, Kathleen Ann: The String (F&SF, Jun95) = Lethem, Jonathon: Five Fucks (The Wall of the Sky, The Wall of the Eye, Oct96) = Rogers, Bruce Holland: These Shoes Strangers Have Died of (Enchanted Forests, DAW, Dec95) = Smith, Dean Wesley: In the Shade of the Slowboat Man (F&SF, Jan96) Date: Thursday, March 20, 1997 9:54am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 731549 To: Merlin Re: Nebulas (Reply to #731540) (1 reply) Thanks for the very informative list. Date: Sunday, March 23, 1997 1:38pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 731678 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #730917, Reply to #730776, Reply to #730759, R*) (1 reply) SF>NI>SF>NI>Hey by the way, what did you think of last week's episode? SF>NI>SF>I found the idea that Dalen and Sinclair were both co-workers and SF>NI>SF>ancestor and decendant, removed by 1,000 years. SF>NI>Actully, Valen & Sinclair are one in the same person(Valen is Minbari SF>NI>not born of Minbar)and Delenn is one his decendents. SF>NI>--- SF>NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ A thing worth doing well is worth doing slow.-Gypsy R.Lee SF>Show off! Hey, when I'm good,I'm good! Date: Sunday, March 23, 1997 1:38pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 731679 To: Vida Re: B5 (Reply to #730949, Reply to #730918, Reply to #730865, R*) VI>SF>So, did d/l the file Steve C. left so you finally have no excuse not to VI>SF>watch? VI>What me download? :) Yes, you download!!! Date: Sunday, March 23, 1997 1:40pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 731680 To: Merlin Re: Nebulas (Reply to #731540) (1 reply) Merlin, how was Lunacom??? Date: Monday, March 24, 1997 2:46pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 731712 To: Nightbird Re: B5 (Reply to #731678, Reply to #730917, Reply to #730776, R*) (1 reply) NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>Hey by the way, what did you think of last week's episode? NI>SF>NI>SF>I found the idea that Dalen and Sinclair were both co-workers and NI>SF>NI>SF>ancestor and decendant, removed by 1,000 years. NI>SF>NI>Actully, Valen & Sinclair are one in the same person(Valen is Minbari NI>SF>NI>not born of Minbar)and Delenn is one his decendents. NI>SF>NI>--- NI>SF>NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ A thing worth doing well is worth doing slow.-Gypsy R. NI>SF>Show off! NI>Hey, when I'm good,I'm good! So....now use those skills on Vida. Date: Monday, March 24, 1997 11:29pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 731772 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #731712, Reply to #731678, Reply to #730917, R*) (1 reply) SF>I>SF>NI>SF>NI>Hey by the way, what did you think of last week's episode? SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>I found the idea that Dalen and Sinclair were both co-workers an SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>ancestor and decendant, removed by 1,000 years. SF>NI>SF>NI>Actully, Valen & Sinclair are one in the same person(Valen is Minba SF>NI>SF>NI>not born of Minbar)and Delenn is one his decendents. SF>NI>SF>NI>--- SF>NI>SF>NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ A thing worth doing well is worth doing slow.-Gypsy SF>NI>SF>Show off! SF>NI>Hey, when I'm good,I'm good! SF>So....now use those skills on Vida. Ok, help me please! --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Back Up My Hard Drive? I Can't Find The Reverse Switch! Date: Thursday, March 27, 1997 11:20am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 732136 To: Nightbird Re: B5 (Reply to #731772, Reply to #731712, Reply to #731678, R*) (1 reply) NI>SF>I>SF>NI>SF>NI>Hey by the way, what did you think of last week's episode? NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>I found the idea that Dalen and Sinclair were both co-workers NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>ancestor and decendant, removed by 1,000 years. NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>Actully, Valen & Sinclair are one in the same person(Valen is Mi NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>not born of Minbar)and Delenn is one his decendents. NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>--- NI>SF>NI>SF>NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ A thing worth doing well is worth doing slow.-Gy NI>SF>NI>SF>Show off! NI>SF>NI>Hey, when I'm good,I'm good! NI>SF>So....now use those skills on Vida. NI>Ok, help me please! NI>--- NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Back Up My Hard Drive? I Can't Find The Reverse Switch! I keep telling her how much she is missing. Date: Monday, March 31, 1997 8:58pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 732508 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #732136, Reply to #731772, Reply to #731712, R*) (1 reply) SF>NI>Ok, help me please! SF>I keep telling her how much she is missing. I know, I know! --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ This tagline stolen by Off-Line Xpress! Date: Tuesday, April 1, 1997 2:02pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 732645 To: Nightbird Re: B5 (Reply to #732508, Reply to #732136, Reply to #731772, R*) (1 reply) NI>SF>NI>Ok, help me please! NI>SF>I keep telling her how much she is missing. NI>I know, I know! NI>--- NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ This tagline stolen by Off-Line Xpress! Between the both of us she may see the truth! Date: Tuesday, April 1, 1997 7:52pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 732663 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #732645, Reply to #732508, Reply to #732136, R*) (1 reply) SF>I>SF>NI>Ok, help me please! SF>NI>SF>I keep telling her how much she is missing. SF>NI>I know, I know! SF>Between the both of us she may see the truth! We can hope for the best! --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ This ì™ì tagline has ì™ì a lot of ì™ì bugs in ì™ì it ... Date: Wednesday, April 2, 1997 11:09am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 732727 To: Nightbird Re: B5 (Reply to #732663, Reply to #732645, Reply to #732508, R*) (2 replies) NI>SF>I>SF>NI>Ok, help me please! NI>SF>NI>SF>I keep telling her how much she is missing. NI>SF>NI>I know, I know! NI>SF>Between the both of us she may see the truth! NI>We can hope for the best! NI>--- NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ This ì™ì tagline has ì™ì a lot of ì™ì bugs in ì™ì it ... So....start telling "her" what she in missing! Date: Thursday, April 3, 1997 7:52am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 732759 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #732727, Reply to #732663, Reply to #732645, R*) (1 reply) SF>NI>SF>I>SF>NI>Ok, help me please! SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>I keep telling her how much she is missing. SF>NI>SF>NI>I know, I know! SF>NI>SF>Between the both of us she may see the truth! SF>NI>We can hope for the best! SF>NI>--- SF>NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ This ì™ì tagline has ì™ì a lot of ì™ì bugs in ì™ì it ... SF>So....start telling "her" what she in missing! No, I suggest you two just leave me alone already! Date: Thursday, April 3, 1997 9:59am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 732774 To: Vida Re: B5 (Reply to #732759, Reply to #732727, Reply to #732663, R*) (1 reply) VI>SF>NI>SF>I>SF>NI>Ok, help me please! VI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>I keep telling her how much she is missing. VI>SF>NI>SF>NI>I know, I know! VI>SF>NI>SF>Between the both of us she may see the truth! VI>SF>NI>We can hope for the best! VI>SF>NI>--- VI>SF>NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ This ì™ì tagline has ì™ì a lot of ì™ì bugs in ì™ì it . VI>SF>So....start telling "her" what she in missing! VI>No, I suggest you two just leave me alone already! Is this optional? Date: Thursday, April 3, 1997 6:57pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 732789 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #732774, Reply to #732759, Reply to #732727, R*) (1 reply) SF>VI>SF>NI>SF>I>SF>NI>Ok, help me please! SF>VI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>I keep telling her how much she is missing. SF>VI>SF>NI>SF>NI>I know, I know! SF>VI>SF>NI>SF>Between the both of us she may see the truth! SF>VI>SF>NI>We can hope for the best! SF>VI>SF>NI>--- SF>VI>SF>NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ This ì™ì tagline has ì™ì a lot of ì™ì bugs in ì™ì i SF>VI>SF>So....start telling "her" what she in missing! SF>VI>No, I suggest you two just leave me alone already! SF>Is this optional? I can't force you to do anything. But your presistence in this area is annoying to me. Date: Thursday, April 3, 1997 7:57pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 732802 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #732727, Reply to #732663, Reply to #732645, R*) (2 replies) SF>I>SF>I>SF>NI>Ok, help me please! SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>I keep telling her how much she is missing. SF>NI>SF>NI>I know, I know! SF>NI>SF>Between the both of us she may see the truth! SF>NI>We can hope for the best! SF>NI>--- SF>NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ This ì™ì tagline has ì™ì a lot of ì™ì bugs in ì™ì it ... SF>So....start telling "her" what she in missing! Vida, do you know what you are missing by not watching B5? --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ If you love someone, tell them now! Date: Friday, April 4, 1997 6:53am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 732822 To: Nightbird Re: B5 (Reply to #732802, Reply to #732727, Reply to #732663, R*) (1 reply) NI>SF>I>SF>I>SF>NI>Ok, help me please! NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>I keep telling her how much she is missing. NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>I know, I know! NI>SF>NI>SF>Between the both of us she may see the truth! NI>SF>NI>We can hope for the best! NI>SF>NI>--- NI>SF>NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ This ì™ì tagline has ì™ì a lot of ì™ì bugs in ì™ì it . NI>SF>So....start telling "her" what she in missing! NI>Vida, do you know what you are missing by not watching B5? NI>--- Please stop bugging me about this Marie. OK? Date: Friday, April 4, 1997 10:20am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 732830 To: Vida Re: B5 (Reply to #732789, Reply to #732774, Reply to #732759, R*) (1 reply) VI>SF>VI>SF>NI>SF>I>SF>NI>Ok, help me please! VI>SF>VI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>I keep telling her how much she is missing. VI>SF>VI>SF>NI>SF>NI>I know, I know! VI>SF>VI>SF>NI>SF>Between the both of us she may see the truth! VI>SF>VI>SF>NI>We can hope for the best! VI>SF>VI>SF>NI>--- VI>SF>VI>SF>NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ This ì™ì tagline has ì™ì a lot of ì™ì bugs in ì™ VI>SF>VI>SF>So....start telling "her" what she in missing! VI>SF>VI>No, I suggest you two just leave me alone already! VI>SF>Is this optional? VI>I can't force you to do anything. But your presistence in this area is VI>annoying to me. I haven't done that in a while. Date: Friday, April 4, 1997 10:20am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 732831 To: Nightbird Re: B5 (Reply to #732802, Reply to #732727, Reply to #732663, R*) (1 reply) NI>SF>I>SF>I>SF>NI>Ok, help me please! NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>I keep telling her how much she is missing. NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>I know, I know! NI>SF>NI>SF>Between the both of us she may see the truth! NI>SF>NI>We can hope for the best! NI>SF>NI>--- NI>SF>NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ This ì™ì tagline has ì™ì a lot of ì™ì bugs in ì™ì it . NI>SF>So....start telling "her" what she in missing! NI>Vida, do you know what you are missing by not watching B5? NI>--- NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ If you love someone, tell them now! Well done! Date: Saturday, April 5, 1997 8:39am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 732889 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #732830, Reply to #732789, Reply to #732774, R*) (1 reply) SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>NI>SF>I>SF>NI>Ok, help me please! SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>I keep telling her how much she is missing. SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>NI>SF>NI>I know, I know! SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>NI>SF>Between the both of us she may see the truth! SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>NI>We can hope for the best! SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>NI>--- SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ This ì™ì tagline has ì™ì a lot of ì™ì bugs in SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>So....start telling "her" what she in missing! SF>VI>SF>VI>No, I suggest you two just leave me alone already! SF>VI>SF>Is this optional? SF>VI>I can't force you to do anything. But your presistence in this area is SF>VI>annoying to me. SF>I haven't done that in a while. I don't know about that. Parts of what you have said to me in /X-rated have also annoyed me. Date: Monday, April 7, 1997 1:53pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 732995 To: Vida Re: B5 (Reply to #732889, Reply to #732830, Reply to #732789, R*) (1 reply) VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>NI>SF>I>SF>NI>Ok, help me please! VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>I keep telling her how much she is missing. VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>NI>SF>NI>I know, I know! VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>NI>SF>Between the both of us she may see the truth! VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>NI>We can hope for the best! VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>NI>--- VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ This ì™ì tagline has ì™ì a lot of ì™ì bugs VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>So....start telling "her" what she in missing! VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>No, I suggest you two just leave me alone already! VI>SF>VI>SF>Is this optional? VI>SF>VI>I can't force you to do anything. But your presistence in this area i VI>SF>VI>annoying to me. VI>SF>I haven't done that in a while. VI>I don't know about that. Parts of what you have said to me in /X-rated VI>have also annoyed me. We are allowed to disagree, aren't we? Date: Monday, April 7, 1997 8:10pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 733008 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #732995, Reply to #732889, Reply to #732830, R*) (1 reply) SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>NI>SF>I>SF>NI>Ok, help me please! SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>I keep telling her how much she is missing. SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>NI>SF>NI>I know, I know! SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>NI>SF>Between the both of us she may see the truth! SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>NI>We can hope for the best! SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>NI>--- SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ This ì™ì tagline has ì™ì a lot of ì™ì b SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>So....start telling "her" what she in missing! SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>No, I suggest you two just leave me alone already! SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Is this optional? SF>VI>SF>VI>I can't force you to do anything. But your presistence in this are SF>VI>SF>VI>annoying to me. SF>VI>SF>I haven't done that in a while. SF>VI>I don't know about that. Parts of what you have said to me in /X-rated SF>VI>have also annoyed me. SF>We are allowed to disagree, aren't we? I have no problem with you disagreeing with me. But when you show what I consider to be a lack of respect for me, than that's annoying. Date: Wednesday, April 9, 1997 1:05pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 733138 To: Vida Re: B5 (Reply to #733008, Reply to #732995, Reply to #732889, R*) (1 reply) VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>NI>SF>I>SF>NI>Ok, help me please! VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>I keep telling her how much she is missing. VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>NI>SF>NI>I know, I know! VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>NI>SF>Between the both of us she may see the truth! VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>NI>We can hope for the best! VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>NI>--- VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ This ì™ì tagline has ì™ì a lot of ì™ VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>So....start telling "her" what she in missing! VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>No, I suggest you two just leave me alone already! VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Is this optional? VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>I can't force you to do anything. But your presistence in this VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>annoying to me. VI>SF>VI>SF>I haven't done that in a while. VI>SF>VI>I don't know about that. Parts of what you have said to me in /X-rate VI>SF>VI>have also annoyed me. VI>SF>We are allowed to disagree, aren't we? VI>I have no problem with you disagreeing with me. But when you show what VI>I consider to be a lack of respect for me, than that's annoying. Please tell me when I have done this? Date: Thursday, April 10, 1997 7:53am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 733172 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #733138, Reply to #733008, Reply to #732995, R*) SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>NI>SF>I>SF>NI>Ok, help me please! SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>I keep telling her how much she is missi SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>NI>SF>NI>I know, I know! SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>NI>SF>Between the both of us she may see the truth! SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>NI>We can hope for the best! SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>NI>--- SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ This ì™ì tagline has ì™ì a lot of SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>So....start telling "her" what she in missing! SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>No, I suggest you two just leave me alone already! SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Is this optional? SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>I can't force you to do anything. But your presistence in th SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>annoying to me. SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>I haven't done that in a while. SF>VI>SF>VI>I don't know about that. Parts of what you have said to me in /X-r SF>VI>SF>VI>have also annoyed me. SF>VI>SF>We are allowed to disagree, aren't we? SF>VI>I have no problem with you disagreeing with me. But when you show what SF>VI>I consider to be a lack of respect for me, than that's annoying. SF>Please tell me when I have done this? If I ask you to please stop "nudging me" to watch Bablyon 5 and you continue to do so, that shows lack of respect. Also, I felt that in our discussion in /X-rated you showed lack of respect when you insisted that our sexual desires were the same after I told you that they were not. But we should really continue that part of this discussion in /X-rated. Date: Saturday, April 12, 1997 10:20am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 733290 To: Vida Re: B5 (Reply to #732822, Reply to #732802, Reply to #732727, R*) (1 reply) VI>Please stop bugging me about this Marie. OK? Ok. --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Caution: High Pressure!!! Contents are PKZIPPED! Date: Saturday, April 12, 1997 10:20am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 733291 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #732831, Reply to #732802, Reply to #732727, R*) (1 reply) SF>NI>Vida, do you know what you are missing by not watching B5? SF>Well done! But, Vida wants me to stop pestting her about B5. --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ #30-3771: 2**756839 -1 is the highest known prime. Date: Saturday, April 12, 1997 6:00pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 733295 To: Nightbird Re: B5 (Reply to #733290, Reply to #732822, Reply to #732802, R*) (1 reply) NI>VI>Please stop bugging me about this Marie. OK? NI>Ok. NI>--- Thank you. :) Date: Monday, April 14, 1997 9:34pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 733443 To: Vida Re: B5 (Reply to #733295, Reply to #733290, Reply to #732822, R*) VI>NI>VI>Please stop bugging me about this Marie. OK? VI>NI>Ok. VI>NI>--- VI>Thank you. :) Hey, no problem! --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Do shellfish sprat sue for damages in small clams court? Date: Tuesday, April 15, 1997 3:01pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 733488 To: Nightbird Re: B5 (Reply to #733291, Reply to #732831, Reply to #732802, R*) (1 reply) NI>SF>NI>Vida, do you know what you are missing by not watching B5? NI>SF>Well done! NI>But, Vida wants me to stop pestting her about B5. NI>--- NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ #30-3771: 2**756839 -1 is the highest known prime. Your option. Date: Wednesday, April 16, 1997 7:40pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 733566 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #733488, Reply to #733291, Reply to #732831, R*) (2 replies) SF>I>SF>NI>Vida, do you know what you are missing by not watching B5? SF>NI>SF>Well done! SF>NI>But, Vida wants me to stop pestting her about B5. SF>Your option. I don't want any trouble with Vida, you know what I mean? --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ It is completely dark. You may be eaten by a grue. Date: Wednesday, April 16, 1997 9:25pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 733584 To: Nightbird Re: B5 (Reply to #733566, Reply to #733488, Reply to #733291, R*) (1 reply) NI>SF>I>SF>NI>Vida, do you know what you are missing by not watching B5? NI>SF>NI>SF>Well done! NI>SF>NI>But, Vida wants me to stop pestting her about B5. NI>SF>Your option. NI>I don't want any trouble with Vida, you know what I mean? NI>--- It shows a profound lack of respect for ANY user to continue with a line of conversation when the user requests that the thread stop. Thankfully you, Marie, have the common courtesy to understand this. Date: Thursday, April 17, 1997 7:09pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 733709 To: Vida Re: B5 (Reply to #733584, Reply to #733566, Reply to #733488, R*) (1 reply) VI>NI>SF>I>SF>NI>Vida, do you know what you are missing by not watching B5? VI>NI>SF>NI>SF>Well done! VI>NI>SF>NI>But, Vida wants me to stop pestting her about B5. VI>NI>SF>Your option. VI>NI>I don't want any trouble with Vida, you know what I mean? VI>NI>--- VI>It shows a profound lack of respect for ANY user to continue with a VI>line of conversation when the user requests that the thread stop. VI>Thankfully you, Marie, have the common courtesy to understand this. Hey, Vida, I don't want to make any waves so I do what I do. --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Mental Floss prevents Moral Decay. Date: Friday, April 18, 1997 7:23am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 733756 To: Nightbird Re: B5 (Reply to #733709, Reply to #733584, Reply to #733566, R*) (1 reply) NI>VI>NI>SF>I>SF>NI>Vida, do you know what you are missing by not watching B5? NI>VI>NI>SF>NI>SF>Well done! NI>VI>NI>SF>NI>But, Vida wants me to stop pestting her about B5. NI>VI>NI>SF>Your option. NI>VI>NI>I don't want any trouble with Vida, you know what I mean? NI>VI>NI>--- NI>VI>It shows a profound lack of respect for ANY user to continue with a NI>VI>line of conversation when the user requests that the thread stop. NI>VI>Thankfully you, Marie, have the common courtesy to understand this. NI>Hey, Vida, I don't want to make any waves so I do what I do. NI>--- It's not that you don't want to make waves. You are just a lady. :) Date: Friday, April 18, 1997 2:57pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 733784 To: Nightbird Re: B5 (Reply to #733566, Reply to #733488, Reply to #733291, R*) (1 reply) NI>SF>I>SF>NI>Vida, do you know what you are missing by not watching B5? NI>SF>NI>SF>Well done! NI>SF>NI>But, Vida wants me to stop pestting her about B5. NI>SF>Your option. NI>I don't want any trouble with Vida, you know what I mean? NI>--- NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ It is completely dark. You may be eaten by a grue. I have some experience in that area. Date: Tuesday, April 22, 1997 8:21pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 734163 To: Vida Re: B5 (Reply to #733756, Reply to #733709, Reply to #733584, R*) VI>NI>VI>It shows a profound lack of respect for ANY user to continue with a VI>NI>VI>line of conversation when the user requests that the thread stop. VI>NI>VI>Thankfully you, Marie, have the common courtesy to understand this. VI>NI>Hey, Vida, I don't want to make any waves so I do what I do. VI>It's not that you don't want to make waves. You are just a lady. :) Why, thank you! --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ #30-3771: Cain asked "Am I my brother's son?" Date: Tuesday, April 22, 1997 8:22pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 734164 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #733784, Reply to #733566, Reply to #733488, R*) (1 reply) SF>I>SF>I>SF>NI>Vida, do you know what you are missing by not watching B5? SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>Well done! SF>NI>SF>NI>But, Vida wants me to stop pestting her about B5. SF>NI>SF>Your option. SF>NI>I don't want any trouble with Vida, you know what I mean? SF>I have some experience in that area. Yes, I know!!! --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ If music be the food for life...I need some Rolaids. Date: Tuesday, May 6, 1997 2:37pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 735070 To: Nightbird Re: B5 (Reply to #734164, Reply to #733784, Reply to #733566, R*) (1 reply) So, what do you think of the way B5 has developed its new story line? Date: Tuesday, May 6, 1997 7:14pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 735080 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #735070, Reply to #734164, Reply to #733784, R*) (1 reply) SF>So, what do you think of the way B5 has developed its new story line? I like it alot, it seems that it may be better than during the war! --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Less is More. Death is the Answer. Life is the Question. Date: Monday, May 12, 1997 11:53am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 735378 To: Nightbird Re: B5 (Reply to #735080, Reply to #735070, Reply to #734164, R*) (1 reply) NI>SF>So, what do you think of the way B5 has developed its new story line? NI>I like it alot, it seems that it may be better than during the war! NI>--- NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Less is More. Death is the Answer. Life is the Question. It seems a little less predictable. Date: Monday, May 12, 1997 1:35pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Merlin Msg#: 735383 To: Steve Flur Re: Nebulas (Reply to #731549, Reply to #731540) (1 reply) You're quite welcome for the info. In a moment I'll post the award winners. Sorry for the delay. Date: Monday, May 12, 1997 1:35pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Merlin Msg#: 735384 To: Nightbird Re: Nebulas (Reply to #731680, Reply to #731540) (1 reply) Lunacon was a blast. Our CD party went very well and, all in all, I had a good time. Date: Monday, May 12, 1997 1:44pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Merlin Msg#: 735386 To: ** ALL ** *EXEMPT* Re: Nebulas (1 reply) In an award ceremony held on Saturday, April 19, in Kansas City, MO, the following Nebulas were awarded: Novel Slow River by Nicola Griffith Novella "Da Vinci Rising" by Jack Dann Novelette "Lifeboat on a Burning Sea" by Bruce Holland Rogers Short Story "A Birthday" by Esther M. Friesner Grand Master Jack Vance Date: Monday, May 12, 1997 1:45pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Merlin Msg#: 735387 To: ** ALL ** *EXEMPT* Re: Stoker Ballot (1 reply) Here's the next set of awards... The following works are on the final ballot for the 1997 Bram Stoker Awards, honoring works first published in 1996. The Active members of HWA are voting on this ballot during April 1997 to choose the recipients of the award. The final ballot will be held in April, and the awards presented at HWA's annual meeting and awards banquet in New York City in June. Superior Achievement in a Novel: Exquisite Corpse, by Poppy Z. Brite (Simon & Schuster) Crota, by Owl Goingback (Donald Fine) The Green Mile, by Stephen King (Signet) The Hellfire Club, by Peter Straub (Random House) Superior Achievement in a First Novel: Flute Song, by Donald Burleson (Black Mesa) Crota, by Owl Goingback (Donald Fine) Horror Show, by Greg Kihn (Tor) Dead Heat, by Del Stone (Mojo Press) Superior Achievement in a Novelet or Novella: ''Kilroy Was Here,'' by Jack Cady (F&SF) ''The Thing from Lover's Lane,'' by Nancy Collins (It Came From the Drive-In) ''The Red Tower,'' by Thomas Ligotti (The Nightmare Factory) ''Brimstone and Salt,'' by S.P. Somtow (Dark Destinies III) Superior Achievement in a Short Story: ''Metalica,'' by P.D. Cacek (Hot Blood: Fear the Fever) ''The Slobbering Tongue That Ate the Frightfully Huge Woman,'' by Robert Devereaux (It Came From the Drive-In) ''The Secret Shih Tan,'' by Graham Masterton (Hot Blood: Fear the Fever) ''The House of Mourning,'' by Brian Stableford (Off Limits) ''Plan 10 from Inner Space,'' by Karl Edward Wagner (It Came From the Drive-In) Superior Achievement in a Fiction Collection: The Convulsion Factory, by Brian Hodge (Silver Salamander) The Nightmare Factory, by Thomas Ligotti (Carroll & Graf) Shadow Dreams, by Elizabeth Massie (Darkside Press) With Wounds Still Wet, by Wayne Allen Sallee (Silver Salamander) The Pavilion of Frozen Women, by S.P. Somtow (Gollancz) Superior Achievement in Non-Fiction: Bram Stoker: A Biography of the Author of Dracula, by Barbara Belford (Knopf) The Great Pulp Heroes, by Don Hutchison (Mosaic Press) The Illustrated Werewolf Movie Guide, by Stephen Jones (Titan Books U.K.) H.P. Lovecraft: A Life, by S.T. Joshi (Necronomicon Press) V is for Vampire, by David Skal (Penguin) Date: Monday, May 12, 1997 2:54pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 735388 To: Merlin Re: Nebulas (Reply to #735383, Reply to #731549, Reply to #731540) (1 reply) ME>You're quite welcome for the info. In a moment I'll post the award ME>winners. Sorry for the delay. It's worth the wait! Date: Monday, May 12, 1997 2:55pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 735389 To: Merlin Re: Nebulas (Reply to #735386) Thanks again, and it was not quite a month. Date: Monday, May 12, 1997 2:56pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 735390 To: Merlin Re: Stoker Ballot (Reply to #735387) (1 reply) A most interesting group of nominees. Date: Monday, May 12, 1997 7:54pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 735416 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #735378, Reply to #735080, Reply to #735070, R*) (1 reply) SF>I>SF>So, what do you think of the way B5 has developed its new story line? SF>NI>I like it alot, it seems that it may be better than during the war! SF>It seems a little less predictable. I taped Saturday's episode but I haven't had a chance to watch it. Maybe later. --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ I only counted 100 dalmatians...!!! Date: Monday, May 12, 1997 7:54pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 735417 To: Merlin Re: Nebulas (Reply to #735384, Reply to #731680, Reply to #731540) (1 reply) ME>Lunacon was a blast. Our CD party went very well and, all in all, I had ME>a good time. I'll hopefully make it there next year. --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Do shellfish sprat sue for damages in small clams court? Date: Tuesday, May 27, 1997 2:52pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 736311 To: Nightbird Re: B5 (Reply to #735416, Reply to #735378, Reply to #735080, R*) (1 reply) NI>SF>I>SF>So, what do you think of the way B5 has developed its new story line NI>SF>NI>I like it alot, it seems that it may be better than during the war! NI>SF>It seems a little less predictable. NI>I taped Saturday's episode but I haven't had a chance to watch it. NI>Maybe later. NI>--- NI> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ I only counted 100 dalmatians...!!! So far it is still being unpredictable! Date: Tuesday, May 27, 1997 11:00pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 736325 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #736311, Reply to #735416, Reply to #735378, R*) (1 reply) SF>I>SF>I>SF>So, what do you think of the way B5 has developed its new story li SF>NI>SF>NI>I like it alot, it seems that it may be better than during the war! SF>NI>SF>It seems a little less predictable. SF>NI>I taped Saturday's episode but I haven't had a chance to watch it. SF>NI>Maybe later. SF>So far it is still being unpredictable! YES!!! * OLX 2.1 TD * We are born naked, wet & hungry. Then things get worse Date: Sunday, June 8, 1997 11:22am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Merlin Msg#: 737073 To: Steve Flur Re: Nebulas (Reply to #735388, Reply to #735383, Reply to #731549, R*) (1 reply) Glad that you feel that way, Steve...you should find the Hugo nominess in a few messages, as well. Date: Sunday, June 8, 1997 11:23am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Merlin Msg#: 737074 To: Steve Flur Re: Stoker Ballot (Reply to #735390, Reply to #735387) (1 reply) I think so, too. Unfortunately I won't be able to attend the banquet this year, as friends of ours are getting marreid that day. Ah, well...I'll grab the results and post them as soon as I can do so after the fact. Date: Sunday, June 8, 1997 11:23am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Merlin Msg#: 737075 To: Nightbird Re: Nebulas (Reply to #735417, Reply to #735384, Reply to #731680, R*) (1 reply) That would be nice...'twould be nice to see you there. Date: Sunday, June 8, 1997 11:30am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Merlin Msg#: 737076 To: ** ALL ** *EXEMPT* Re: Hugo Nominees (1 reply) 1997 Hugo Nominations Best Novel Blue Mars by Kim Stanley Robinson (HarperCollins Voyager; Bantam Spectra) Holy Fire by Bruce Sterling (Orion; Bantam Spectra) Memory by Lois McMaster Bujold (Baen) Remnant Population by Elizabeth Moon (Baen) Starplex by Robert J. Sawyer (Ace; Analog 7-10/96) Best Novella "Abandon in Place" by Jerry Oltion (F&SF 12/96) "Blood of The Dragon" by George R. R. Martin (Asimov's 7/96) "The Cost to Be Wise" by Maureen F. McHugh (Starlight 1) "Gas Fish" by Mary Rosenblum (Asimov's 2/96) "Immersion" by Gregory Benford (SF Age 3/96) "Time Travelers Never Die" by Jack McDevitt (Asimov's 5/96) There are six nominees due to a tie vote. Best Novelette "Age of Aquarius" by William Barton (Asimov's 5/96) "Beauty and the Opira or the Phantom Beast" by Suzy McKee Charnas (Asimov's 3/96) "Bicycle Repairman" by Bruce Sterling (Intersections; Asimov's 10/96) "The Land of Nod" by Mike Resnick (Asimov's 6/96) "Mountain Ways" by Ursula K. Le Guin (Asimov's 8/96) Best Short Story "The Dead" by Michael Swanwick (Starlight 1) "Decency" by Robert Reed (Asimov's 6/96) "Gone" by John Crowley (F&SF 9/96) "The Soul Selects Her Own Society . . ." by Connie Willis (Asimov's 4/96; War of the Worlds: Global Dispatches) "Un-Birthday Boy" by James White (Analog 2/96) Best Non-Fiction Book The Faces of Fantasy by Patti Perret (Tor) Look at the Evidence by John Clute (Serconia Press) The Silence of the Langford by Dave Langford (NESFA Press) Time & Chance by L. Sprague de Camp (Grant) The Tough Guide to Fantasyland by Diana Wynne Jones (Gollancz/Vista) Best Dramatic Presentation Independence Day (Centropolis Film Productions/20th Century Fox Film) Directed by Roland Emmerich, Written by Dean Devlin and Roland Emmerich, Produced by Dean Devlin Mars Attacks! (Warner Bros.) Directed by Tim Burton, Written by Jonathan Gems, Produced by Tim Burton and Larry Franco Babylon 5 "Severed Dreams" (Warner Bros.) Directed by David J. Eagle, Written by J. Michael Straczynski, Produced by John Copeland Star Trek: First Contact (Paramount Pictures) Directed by Jonathan Frakes, Story by Ronald D. Moore, Brannon Braga & Rick Berman, Screenplay by Ronald D. Moore & Brannon Braga, Produced by Rick Berman Star Trek: Deep Space Nine "Trials and Tribble-ations" (Paramount Pictures) Directed by Jonathan West, Written by Ronald D. Moore & Rene Echevarria, Story by Ira Steven Behr & Hans Beimler & Robert Hewitt Wolfe, Executive Producers Ira Steven Behr & Rick Berman Babylon 5 "War without End" and "Z'Ha'Dum" were nominated but J. Michael Straczynski declined. Best Editor Gardner Dozois (Asimov's) Scott Edelman (SF Age) Patrick Nielsen Hayden (Tor) Kristine Kathryn Rusch (F&SF) Stanley Schmidt (Analog) Best Professional Artist Thomas Canty David Cherry Bob Eggleton Don Maitz Michael Whelan Best Semiprozine Interzone edited by David Pringle Locus edited by Charles N. Brown The New York Review of Science Fiction edited by Kathryn Cramer, Tad Dembinski, Ariel Hamion, David G. Hartwell and Kevin Maroney Science Fiction Chronicle edited by Andrew I. Porter Speculations edited by Kent Brewster Best Fanzine Ansible edited by Dave Langford File 770 edited by Mike Glyer Mimosa edited by Dick & Nicki Lynch Nova Express edited by Lawrence Person Tangent edited by Dave Truesdale Best Fan Writer Sharon Farber Mike Glyer Andy Hooper Dave Langford Evelyn C. Leeper Best Fan Artist Ian Gunn Joe Mayhew Peggy Ranson William Rotsler Sherlock Brad Foster and Teddy Harvia declined their nominations. John W. Campbell Award (not a Hugo) (156 ballots) (Award for the best new science fiction writer of 1995 or 1996, sponsored by Dell Magazines) Michael A. Burstein (second year of eligiblity) Raphael Carter (first year of eligiblity) Richard Garfinkle (first year of eligiblity) Katya Reimann (first year of eligiblity) Sharon Shinn (second year of eligiblity) [H[2J Sorry for the formatting problems above...I think it's readable enough. Date: Sunday, June 8, 1997 3:07pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 737094 To: Merlin Re: Nebulas (Reply to #737075, Reply to #735417, Reply to #735384, R*) ME>That would be nice...'twould be nice to see you there. Truly! * OLX 2.1 TD * Frogs are smarter than people - They eat what bugs them! Date: Monday, June 9, 1997 2:47pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 737147 To: Nightbird Re: B5 (Reply to #736325, Reply to #736311, Reply to #735416, R*) (1 reply) NI>SF>I>SF>I>SF>So, what do you think of the way B5 has developed its new story NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>I like it alot, it seems that it may be better than during the w NI>SF>NI>SF>It seems a little less predictable. NI>SF>NI>I taped Saturday's episode but I haven't had a chance to watch it. NI>SF>NI>Maybe later. NI>SF>So far it is still being unpredictable! NI>YES!!! NI> * OLX 2.1 TD * We are born naked, wet & hungry. Then things get worse It's really building suspense! Date: Monday, June 9, 1997 2:48pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 737148 To: Merlin Re: Nebulas (Reply to #737073, Reply to #735388, Reply to #735383, R*) ME>Glad that you feel that way, Steve...you should find the Hugo nominess ME>in a few messages, as well. Thanks for supplying the info! Date: Monday, June 9, 1997 2:50pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 737149 To: Merlin Re: Stoker Ballot (Reply to #737074, Reply to #735390, Reply to #735387) ME>I think so, too. Unfortunately I won't be able to attend the banquet ME>this year, as friends of ours are getting marreid that day. Ah, ME>well...I'll grab the results and post them as soon as I can do so after ME>the fact. How dare they schedule without checking with you first. Date: Monday, June 9, 1997 2:51pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 737150 To: Merlin Re: Hugo Nominees (Reply to #737076) Very readable and informative! Date: Monday, June 9, 1997 8:17pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 737161 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #737147, Reply to #736325, Reply to #736311, R*) (1 reply) SF>I>SF>I>SF>I>SF>So, what do you think of the way B5 has developed its new sto SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>I like it alot, it seems that it may be better than during th SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>It seems a little less predictable. SF>NI>SF>NI>I taped Saturday's episode but I haven't had a chance to watch it. SF>NI>SF>NI>Maybe later. SF>NI>SF>So far it is still being unpredictable! SF>NI>YES!!! SF>It's really building suspense! I video taped Sat's episode, haven't had a chance to watch it yet, when Steve gets home! * OLX 2.1 TD * Dogs come when you call;hedgehogs have cellular phones Date: Tuesday, June 10, 1997 10:54am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 737203 To: Nightbird Re: B5 (Reply to #737161, Reply to #737147, Reply to #736325, R*) (1 reply) NI>SF>I>SF>I>SF>I>SF>So, what do you think of the way B5 has developed its new NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>I like it alot, it seems that it may be better than during NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>It seems a little less predictable. NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>I taped Saturday's episode but I haven't had a chance to watch i NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>Maybe later. NI>SF>NI>SF>So far it is still being unpredictable! NI>SF>NI>YES!!! NI>SF>It's really building suspense! NI>I video taped Sat's episode, haven't had a chance to watch it yet, when NI>Steve gets home! NI> * OLX 2.1 TD * Dogs come when you call;hedgehogs have cellular phones It's a good one! Date: Tuesday, June 10, 1997 8:05pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 737222 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #737203, Reply to #737161, Reply to #737147, R*) (1 reply) SF>I>SF>I>SF>I>SF>I>SF>So, what do you think of the way B5 has developed its ne SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>I like it alot, it seems that it may be better than dur SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>It seems a little less predictable. SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>I taped Saturday's episode but I haven't had a chance to watc SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>Maybe later. SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>So far it is still being unpredictable! SF>NI>SF>NI>YES!!! SF>NI>SF>It's really building suspense! SF>NI>I video taped Sat's episode, haven't had a chance to watch it yet, when SF>NI>Steve gets home! SF>It's a good one! I watched it last night, WOW!!!!!!! * OLX 2.1 TD * I don't care if I *am* a lemming. I'm not going. Date: Friday, June 13, 1997 1:23pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 737370 To: Nightbird Re: B5 (Reply to #737222, Reply to #737203, Reply to #737161, R*) NI>SF>I>SF>I>SF>I>SF>I>SF>So, what do you think of the way B5 has developed its NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>I like it alot, it seems that it may be better than NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>It seems a little less predictable. NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>I taped Saturday's episode but I haven't had a chance to w NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>Maybe later. NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>So far it is still being unpredictable! NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>YES!!! NI>SF>NI>SF>It's really building suspense! NI>SF>NI>I video taped Sat's episode, haven't had a chance to watch it yet, whe NI>SF>NI>Steve gets home! NI>SF>It's a good one! NI>I watched it last night, WOW!!!!!!! NI> * OLX 2.1 TD * I don't care if I *am* a lemming. I'm not going. This week's episode is scheduled for Fri. 6/13 at 9 PM. Date: Friday, June 13, 1997 6:49pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 737385 To: ** ALL ** Re: Are we addicted? Ok, all my fellow trekers, from Deb here's something to ponder: *** Star Trek fans suffer from addiction - study Star Trek fans are like drug addicts who suffer withdrawal symptoms if deprived of their favorite television show, a British study has shown. One woman "Trekkie" spent her whole holiday worrying that her video recorder had not been set properly at home to catch the latest installment. Another spent $10,000 on Star Trek merchandise every year. After studying fans of the science fiction cult show for four years, psychologist Sandy Wolfson said, "My research found that about five to 10 percent of fans met the psychological criteria of addiction." Date: Tuesday, July 1, 1997 9:43am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 738193 To: ** ALL ** Re: B5-DROPPED AND SAVED (2 replies) WB has annouced that they are not renewing B5 for a fifth season, however, TNT has picked up B5 for a fifth season starting in January 1998 as well as for some B5 movies. Date: Tuesday, July 1, 1997 7:09pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve C Msg#: 738214 To: Steve Flur Re: B5-DROPPED AND SAVED (Reply to #738193) (1 reply) SF>WB has annouced that they are not renewing B5 for a fifth season, SF>however, TNT has picked up B5 for a fifth season starting in January SF>1998 as well as for some B5 movies. Thanks for the info. --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ My name is G'Kar. You wrecked my planet. Prepare to die! Date: Tuesday, July 1, 1997 7:09pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve C Msg#: 738215 To: ** ALL ** Re: B 5 Newsletter (1 reply) For those among us who LOVE Babylon 5, There is a newsletter aimed right at us. It is called the Zocolo and can be gotten via E_Mail at katana@highfiber.com. Send them an E_Mail telling them you wish to subscribe along with your Email address and they will put you on the subscription list. The issue arrives in your Email once a week, usually on Monday. (except your first issue which usually arrives within 1 or 2 days of requesting it) This is a free servive run by a couple of die hard B5 fans. They also run a web site : http://www.highfiber.com/~katana I have not yet visited the web site so I can not evaluate it but the newsletter is very good IMHO. --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ "Well as my great-grandfather used to say,cool."-Sheridan Date: Tuesday, July 1, 1997 8:19pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 738234 To: Steve Flur Re: B5-DROPPED AND SAVED (Reply to #738193) (1 reply) SF>WB has annouced that they are not renewing B5 for a fifth season, SF>however, TNT has picked up B5 for a fifth season starting in January SF>1998 as well as for some B5 movies. Thank God, will in still be on the WB? * OLX 2.1 TD * Do vegetarians eat animal crackers? Date: Thursday, July 3, 1997 10:43am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 738511 To: Steve C Re: B5-DROPPED AND SAVED (Reply to #738214, Reply to #738193) SC>SF>WB has annouced that they are not renewing B5 for a fifth season, SC>SF>however, TNT has picked up B5 for a fifth season starting in January SC>SF>1998 as well as for some B5 movies. SC>Thanks for the info. SC>--- SC> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ My name is G'Kar. You wrecked my planet. Prepare to die! Glad to be of service. Date: Thursday, July 3, 1997 10:45am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 738512 To: Steve C Re: B 5 Newsletter (Reply to #738215) (1 reply) SC>For those among us who LOVE Babylon 5, There is a newsletter aimed right SC>at us. It is called the Zocolo and can be gotten via E_Mail at SC>katana@highfiber.com. SC>Send them an E_Mail telling them you wish to subscribe along with your SC>Email address and they will put you on the subscription list. SC>The issue arrives in your Email once a week, usually on Monday. (except SC>your first issue which usually arrives within 1 or 2 days of requesting SC>it) SC>This is a free servive run by a couple of die hard B5 fans. SC>They also run a web site : http://www.highfiber.com/~katana SC>I have not yet visited the web site so I can not evaluate it but the SC>newsletter is very good IMHO. SC>--- SC> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ "Well as my great-grandfather used to say,cool."-Sheridan Now thank you for the information. Date: Thursday, July 3, 1997 10:46am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 738513 To: Nightbird Re: B5-DROPPED AND SAVED (Reply to #738234, Reply to #738193) (3 replies) NI>SF>WB has annouced that they are not renewing B5 for a fifth season, NI>SF>however, TNT has picked up B5 for a fifth season starting in January NI>SF>1998 as well as for some B5 movies. NI>Thank God, will in still be on the WB? NI> * OLX 2.1 TD * Do vegetarians eat animal crackers? Not after this season. Do you have cable yet? Date: Thursday, July 3, 1997 4:55pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve C Msg#: 738533 To: Steve Flur Re: B 5 Newsletter (Reply to #738512, Reply to #738215) (1 reply) SF>SC>Send them an E_Mail telling them you wish to subscribe along with your SF>SC>Email address and they will put you on the subscription list. SF>SC>The issue arrives in your Email once a week, usually on Monday. (except SF>SC>your first issue which usually arrives within 1 or 2 days of requesting SF>SC>it) SF>SC>This is a free servive run by a couple of die hard B5 fans. SF>SC>They also run a web site : http://www.highfiber.com/~katana SF>SC>I have not yet visited the web site so I can not evaluate it but the SF>SC>newsletter is very good IMHO. SF>SC>--- SF>SC> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ "Well as my great-grandfather used to say,cool."-Sheridan SF>Now thank you for the information. My pleasure sir. --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ I think when the computer dies it's time to upgrade. - JB Date: Sunday, July 6, 1997 1:21pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve C Msg#: 738664 To: Steve Flur Re: B5-DROPPED AND SAVED (Reply to #738513, Reply to #738234, Reply to #738193) (1 reply) SF>I>SF>WB has annouced that they are not renewing B5 for a fifth season, SF>NI>SF>however, TNT has picked up B5 for a fifth season starting in January SF>NI>SF>1998 as well as for some B5 movies. SF>NI>Thank God, will in still be on the WB? SF>NI> * OLX 2.1 TD * Do vegetarians eat animal crackers? SF>Not after this season. Do you have cable yet? I go the news from my Steve & I've really got to get cable now!!!! * OLX 2.1 TD * Suck squeeze bang blow. Internal combustion makes it go. Date: Sunday, July 6, 1997 1:45pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve C Msg#: 738679 To: Steve Flur Re: B5-DROPPED AND SAVED (Reply to #738513, Reply to #738234, Reply to #738193) SF>I>SF>WB has annouced that they are not renewing B5 for a fifth season, SF>NI>SF>however, TNT has picked up B5 for a fifth season starting in January SF>NI>SF>1998 as well as for some B5 movies. SF>NI>Thank God, will in still be on the WB? SF>NI> * OLX 2.1 TD * Do vegetarians eat animal crackers? SF>Not after this season. Do you have cable yet? I go the news from my Steve & I've really got to get cable now!!!! * OLX 2.1 TD * Suck squeeze bang blow. Internal combustion makes it go. Date: Sunday, July 6, 1997 2:16pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 738695 To: Steve Flur Re: B5-DROPPED AND SAVED (Reply to #738513, Reply to #738234, Reply to #738193) (1 reply) SF>I>SF>WB has annouced that they are not renewing B5 for a fifth season, SF>NI>SF>however, TNT has picked up B5 for a fifth season starting in January SF>NI>SF>1998 as well as for some B5 movies. SF>NI>Thank God, will in still be on the WB? SF>NI> * OLX 2.1 TD * Do vegetarians eat animal crackers? SF>Not after this season. Do you have cable yet? I go the news from my Steve & I've really got to get cable now!!!! * OLX 2.1 TD * Suck squeeze bang blow. Internal combustion makes it go. Date: Monday, July 7, 1997 1:43pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 738734 To: Steve C Re: B5-DROPPED AND SAVED (Reply to #738664, Reply to #738513, Reply to #738234, R*) SC>SF>I>SF>WB has annouced that they are not renewing B5 for a fifth season, SC>SF>NI>SF>however, TNT has picked up B5 for a fifth season starting in Januar SC>SF>NI>SF>1998 as well as for some B5 movies. SC>SF>NI>Thank God, will in still be on the WB? SC>SF>NI> * OLX 2.1 TD * Do vegetarians eat animal crackers? SC>SF>Not after this season. Do you have cable yet? SC>I go the news from my Steve & I've really got to get cable now!!!! SC> * OLX 2.1 TD * Suck squeeze bang blow. Internal combustion makes it go. Now you have an incentive. Date: Monday, July 7, 1997 1:44pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 738735 To: Nightbird Re: B5-DROPPED AND SAVED (Reply to #738695, Reply to #738513, Reply to #738234, R*) (1 reply) NI>SF>I>SF>WB has annouced that they are not renewing B5 for a fifth season, NI>SF>NI>SF>however, TNT has picked up B5 for a fifth season starting in Januar NI>SF>NI>SF>1998 as well as for some B5 movies. NI>SF>NI>Thank God, will in still be on the WB? NI>SF>NI> * OLX 2.1 TD * Do vegetarians eat animal crackers? NI>SF>Not after this season. Do you have cable yet? NI>I go the news from my Steve & I've really got to get cable now!!!! NI> * OLX 2.1 TD * Suck squeeze bang blow. Internal combustion makes it go. So, what are you waiting for? Date: Tuesday, July 8, 1997 7:19pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 738783 To: Steve Flur Re: B5-DROPPED AND SAVED (Reply to #738735, Reply to #738695, Reply to #738513, R*) (1 reply) SF>I>SF>I>SF>WB has annouced that they are not renewing B5 for a fifth season, SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>however, TNT has picked up B5 for a fifth season starting in Jan SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>1998 as well as for some B5 movies. SF>NI>SF>NI>Thank God, will in still be on the WB? SF>NI>SF>NI> * OLX 2.1 TD * Do vegetarians eat animal crackers? SF>NI>SF>Not after this season. Do you have cable yet? SF>NI>I go the news from my Steve & I've really got to get cable now!!!! SF>NI> * OLX 2.1 TD * Suck squeeze bang blow. Internal combustion makes it go. SF>So, what are you waiting for? I don't know, I really have to get cable!!! * OLX 2.1 TD * Are you suggesting that coconuts migrate? Date: Wednesday, July 9, 1997 1:03pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 738809 To: Nightbird Re: B5-DROPPED AND SAVED (Reply to #738783, Reply to #738735, Reply to #738695, R*) (2 replies) NI>SF>I>SF>I>SF>WB has annouced that they are not renewing B5 for a fifth seaso NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>however, TNT has picked up B5 for a fifth season starting in NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>1998 as well as for some B5 movies. NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>Thank God, will in still be on the WB? NI>SF>NI>SF>NI> * OLX 2.1 TD * Do vegetarians eat animal crackers? NI>SF>NI>SF>Not after this season. Do you have cable yet? NI>SF>NI>I go the news from my Steve & I've really got to get cable now!!!! NI>SF>NI> * OLX 2.1 TD * Suck squeeze bang blow. Internal combustion makes it g NI>SF>So, what are you waiting for? NI>I don't know, I really have to get cable!!! NI> * OLX 2.1 TD * Are you suggesting that coconuts migrate? Just think of the new TV you could watch. Date: Thursday, July 10, 1997 1:02pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve C Msg#: 738843 To: Steve Flur Re: B5-DROPPED AND SAVED (Reply to #738809, Reply to #738783, Reply to #738735, R*) (1 reply) SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>Not after this season. Do you have cable yet? SF>NI>SF>NI>I go the news from my Steve & I've really got to get cable now!!!! SF>NI>SF>NI> * OLX 2.1 TD * Suck squeeze bang blow. Internal combustion makes i SF>NI>SF>So, what are you waiting for? SF>NI>I don't know, I really have to get cable!!! SF>NI> * OLX 2.1 TD * Are you suggesting that coconuts migrate? SF>Just think of the new TV you could watch. Thats the reason we haven't gotten cable yet. Aside from Babylon 5, we hardley have any time to watch TV. --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ I am Fudd of the Borg. Pwepawe to be assimiwated. heheheh Date: Thursday, July 10, 1997 1:19pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 738845 To: Steve C Re: B5-DROPPED AND SAVED (Reply to #738843, Reply to #738809, Reply to #738783, R*) (1 reply) SC>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>Not after this season. Do you have cable yet? SC>SF>NI>SF>NI>I go the news from my Steve & I've really got to get cable now!! SC>SF>NI>SF>NI> * OLX 2.1 TD * Suck squeeze bang blow. Internal combustion make SC>SF>NI>SF>So, what are you waiting for? SC>SF>NI>I don't know, I really have to get cable!!! SC>SF>NI> * OLX 2.1 TD * Are you suggesting that coconuts migrate? SC>SF>Just think of the new TV you could watch. SC>Thats the reason we haven't gotten cable yet. SC>Aside from Babylon 5, we hardley have any time to watch TV. SC>--- SC> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ I am Fudd of the Borg. Pwepawe to be assimiwated. heheheh There is always the middle of the night. Date: Monday, July 14, 1997 12:45pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 738934 To: Steve C Re: B 5 Newsletter (Reply to #738533, Reply to #738512, Reply to #738215) (1 reply) SC>SF>SC>Send them an E_Mail telling them you wish to subscribe along with your SC>SF>SC>Email address and they will put you on the subscription list. SC>SF>SC>The issue arrives in your Email once a week, usually on Monday. (excep SC>SF>SC>your first issue which usually arrives within 1 or 2 days of requestin SC>SF>SC>it) SC>SF>SC>This is a free servive run by a couple of die hard B5 fans. SC>SF>SC>They also run a web site : http://www.highfiber.com/~katana SC>SF>SC>I have not yet visited the web site so I can not evaluate it but the SC>SF>SC>newsletter is very good IMHO. SC>SF>SC>--- SC>SF>SC> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ "Well as my great-grandfather used to say,cool."-Sheri SC>SF>Now thank you for the information. SC>My pleasure sir. SC>--- SC> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ I think when the computer dies it's time to upgrade. - JB I received my first newsletter and it was very informative. Thanks again! Date: Monday, July 14, 1997 4:27pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 738954 To: Steve Flur Re: B5-DROPPED AND SAVED (Reply to #738809, Reply to #738783, Reply to #738735, R*) (1 reply) SF>I>SF>I>SF>I>SF>WB has annouced that they are not renewing B5 for a fifth sea SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>however, TNT has picked up B5 for a fifth season starting SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>1998 as well as for some B5 movies. SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>Thank God, will in still be on the WB? SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI> * OLX 2.1 TD * Do vegetarians eat animal crackers? SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>Not after this season. Do you have cable yet? SF>NI>SF>NI>I go the news from my Steve & I've really got to get cable now!!!! SF>NI>SF>NI> * OLX 2.1 TD * Suck squeeze bang blow. Internal combustion makes i SF>NI>SF>So, what are you waiting for? SF>NI>I don't know, I really have to get cable!!! SF>Just think of the new TV you could watch. I know, I just got back from Mom & Dad's (they have cable)!!! * OLX 2.1 TD * I'm too sexy for my tagline Date: Monday, July 14, 1997 4:39pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve C Msg#: 738960 To: Steve Flur Re: B5-DROPPED AND SAVED (Reply to #738845, Reply to #738843, Reply to #738809, R*) (2 replies) SF>SC>SF>NI>I don't know, I really have to get cable!!! SF>SC>SF>Just think of the new TV you could watch. SF>SC>Thats the reason we haven't gotten cable yet. SF>SC>Aside from Babylon 5, we hardley have any time to watch TV. SF>There is always the middle of the night. That is reserved for other things :) --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ I am Daffyduck of Borg. Resithtanth is dethPICable! Date: Tuesday, July 15, 1997 2:00pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve C Msg#: 739026 To: Steve Flur Re: B 5 Newsletter (Reply to #738934, Reply to #738533, Reply to #738512, R*) (1 reply) SF>SC>SF>Now thank you for the information. SF>SC>My pleasure sir. SF>I received my first newsletter and it was very informative. Thanks SF>again! Glad I could help :) --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Minbari, Centauri and Narns, OH MY!!! Date: Tuesday, July 15, 1997 3:14pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 739031 To: Nightbird Re: B5-DROPPED AND SAVED (Reply to #738954, Reply to #738809, Reply to #738783, R*) (1 reply) NI>SF>I>SF>I>SF>I>SF>WB has annouced that they are not renewing B5 for a fifth NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>however, TNT has picked up B5 for a fifth season starti NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>1998 as well as for some B5 movies. NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>Thank God, will in still be on the WB? NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI> * OLX 2.1 TD * Do vegetarians eat animal crackers? NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>Not after this season. Do you have cable yet? NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>I go the news from my Steve & I've really got to get cable now!! NI>SF>NI>SF>NI> * OLX 2.1 TD * Suck squeeze bang blow. Internal combustion make NI>SF>NI>SF>So, what are you waiting for? NI>SF>NI>I don't know, I really have to get cable!!! NI>SF>Just think of the new TV you could watch. NI> I know, I just got back from Mom & Dad's (they have cable)!!! NI> * OLX 2.1 TD * I'm too sexy for my tagline So pick up the phone already! Date: Tuesday, July 15, 1997 3:15pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 739032 To: Steve C Re: B5-DROPPED AND SAVED (Reply to #738960, Reply to #738845, Reply to #738843, R*) (2 replies) SC>SF>SC>SF>NI>I don't know, I really have to get cable!!! SC>SF>SC>SF>Just think of the new TV you could watch. SC>SF>SC>Thats the reason we haven't gotten cable yet. SC>SF>SC>Aside from Babylon 5, we hardley have any time to watch TV. SC>SF>There is always the middle of the night. SC>That is reserved for other things :) SC>--- SC> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ I am Daffyduck of Borg. Resithtanth is dethPICable! And other forums! Date: Tuesday, July 15, 1997 3:16pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 739033 To: Steve C Re: B 5 Newsletter (Reply to #739026, Reply to #738934, Reply to #738533, R*) (1 reply) SC>SF>SC>SF>Now thank you for the information. SC>SF>SC>My pleasure sir. SC>SF>I received my first newsletter and it was very informative. Thanks SC>SF>again! SC>Glad I could help :) SC>--- SC> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Minbari, Centauri and Narns, OH MY!!! Feel free to post other such interesting information. Date: Tuesday, July 15, 1997 5:51pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 739045 To: Steve C Re: B5-DROPPED AND SAVED (Reply to #738960, Reply to #738845, Reply to #738843, R*) SC>SF>SC>SF>NI>I don't know, I really have to get cable!!! SC>SF>SC>SF>Just think of the new TV you could watch. SC>SF>SC>Thats the reason we haven't gotten cable yet. SC>SF>SC>Aside from Babylon 5, we hardley have any time to watch TV. SC>SF>There is always the middle of the night. SC>That is reserved for other things :) YES!!!! * OLX 2.1 TD * Whatisthebigkeyatthebottomofmykeyboardfor? Date: Tuesday, July 15, 1997 6:55pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 739049 To: Steve Flur Re: B5-DROPPED AND SAVED (Reply to #739031, Reply to #738954, Reply to #738809, R*) (1 reply) SF>I>SF>I>SF>I>SF>I>SF>WB has annouced that they are not renewing B5 for a fift SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>however, TNT has picked up B5 for a fifth season sta SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>1998 as well as for some B5 movies. SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>Thank God, will in still be on the WB? SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI> * OLX 2.1 TD * Do vegetarians eat animal crackers? SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>Not after this season. Do you have cable yet? SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>I go the news from my Steve & I've really got to get cable no SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI> * OLX 2.1 TD * Suck squeeze bang blow. Internal combustion m SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>So, what are you waiting for? SF>NI>SF>NI>I don't know, I really have to get cable!!! SF>NI>SF>Just think of the new TV you could watch. SF>NI> I know, I just got back from Mom & Dad's (they have cable)!!! SF>So pick up the phone already! I will!! * OLX 2.1 TD * No Woody, I said TUCK the kids in bed!...Mia Farrow Date: Tuesday, July 15, 1997 6:55pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 739050 To: Steve Flur Re: B5-DROPPED AND SAVED (Reply to #739032, Reply to #738960, Reply to #738845, R*) (1 reply) SF>C>SF>SC>SF>NI>I don't know, I really have to get cable!!! SF>SC>SF>SC>SF>Just think of the new TV you could watch. SF>SC>SF>SC>Thats the reason we haven't gotten cable yet. SF>SC>SF>SC>Aside from Babylon 5, we hardley have any time to watch TV. SF>SC>SF>There is always the middle of the night. SF>SC>That is reserved for other things :) SF>And other forums! That's an interesting way to put it. * OLX 2.1 TD * The pancake house was robbed. How waffle. Date: Wednesday, July 16, 1997 1:01pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 739154 To: Nightbird Re: B5-DROPPED AND SAVED (Reply to #739049, Reply to #739031, Reply to #738954, R*) (1 reply) NI>SF>I>SF>I>SF>I>SF>I>SF>WB has annouced that they are not renewing B5 for a f NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>however, TNT has picked up B5 for a fifth season NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>1998 as well as for some B5 movies. NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>Thank God, will in still be on the WB? NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI> * OLX 2.1 TD * Do vegetarians eat animal crackers? NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>Not after this season. Do you have cable yet? NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>I go the news from my Steve & I've really got to get cable NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI> * OLX 2.1 TD * Suck squeeze bang blow. Internal combustio NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>So, what are you waiting for? NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>I don't know, I really have to get cable!!! NI>SF>NI>SF>Just think of the new TV you could watch. NI>SF>NI> I know, I just got back from Mom & Dad's (they have cable)!!! NI>SF>So pick up the phone already! NI>I will!! NI> * OLX 2.1 TD * No Woody, I said TUCK the kids in bed!...Mia Farrow So...? Date: Wednesday, July 16, 1997 1:02pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 739155 To: Nightbird Re: B5-DROPPED AND SAVED (Reply to #739050, Reply to #739032, Reply to #738960, R*) (1 reply) NI>SF>C>SF>SC>SF>NI>I don't know, I really have to get cable!!! NI>SF>SC>SF>SC>SF>Just think of the new TV you could watch. NI>SF>SC>SF>SC>Thats the reason we haven't gotten cable yet. NI>SF>SC>SF>SC>Aside from Babylon 5, we hardley have any time to watch TV. NI>SF>SC>SF>There is always the middle of the night. NI>SF>SC>That is reserved for other things :) NI>SF>And other forums! NI>That's an interesting way to put it. NI> * OLX 2.1 TD * The pancake house was robbed. How waffle. You would not want me to be boring. Date: Wednesday, July 16, 1997 1:55pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve C Msg#: 739166 To: Steve Flur Re: B5-DROPPED AND SAVED (Reply to #739032, Reply to #738960, Reply to #738845, R*) (1 reply) SF>C>SF>SC>SF>NI>I don't know, I really have to get cable!!! SF>SC>SF>SC>SF>Just think of the new TV you could watch. SF>SC>SF>SC>Thats the reason we haven't gotten cable yet. SF>SC>SF>SC>Aside from Babylon 5, we hardley have any time to watch TV. SF>SC>SF>There is always the middle of the night. SF>SC>That is reserved for other things :) SF>SC>--- SF>SC> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ I am Daffyduck of Borg. Resithtanth is dethPICable! SF>And other forums! Is there a forum to discuss sleeping ? :) --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Closed on account of molasses. - WCF in "It's a Gift" Date: Wednesday, July 16, 1997 3:43pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 739178 To: Steve Flur Re: B5-DROPPED AND SAVED (Reply to #739154, Reply to #739049, Reply to #739031, R*) (1 reply) SF>NI>SF>I>SF>I>SF>I>SF>I>SF>WB has annouced that they are not renewing B5 for SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>however, TNT has picked up B5 for a fifth seas SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>1998 as well as for some B5 movies. SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>Thank God, will in still be on the WB? SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI> * OLX 2.1 TD * Do vegetarians eat animal cracker SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>Not after this season. Do you have cable yet? SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>I go the news from my Steve & I've really got to get ca SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI> * OLX 2.1 TD * Suck squeeze bang blow. Internal combus SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>So, what are you waiting for? SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>I don't know, I really have to get cable!!! SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>Just think of the new TV you could watch. SF>NI>SF>NI> I know, I just got back from Mom & Dad's (they have cable)!! SF>NI>SF>So pick up the phone already! SF>NI>I will!! SF>NI> * OLX 2.1 TD * No Woody, I said TUCK the kids in bed!...Mia Farrow SF>So...? A few more months Date: Wednesday, July 16, 1997 3:43pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 739179 To: Steve Flur Re: B5-DROPPED AND SAVED (Reply to #739155, Reply to #739050, Reply to #739032, R*) (1 reply) SF>NI>SF>C>SF>SC>SF>NI>I don't know, I really have to get cable!!! SF>NI>SF>SC>SF>SC>SF>Just think of the new TV you could watch. SF>NI>SF>SC>SF>SC>Thats the reason we haven't gotten cable yet. SF>NI>SF>SC>SF>SC>Aside from Babylon 5, we hardley have any time to watch TV. SF>NI>SF>SC>SF>There is always the middle of the night. SF>NI>SF>SC>That is reserved for other things :) SF>NI>SF>And other forums! SF>NI>That's an interesting way to put it. SF>NI> * OLX 2.1 TD * The pancake house was robbed. How waffle. SF>You would not want me to be boring. But of course Date: Thursday, July 17, 1997 2:48pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 739259 To: Steve C Re: B5-DROPPED AND SAVED (Reply to #739166, Reply to #739032, Reply to #738960, R*) (1 reply) SC>SF>C>SF>SC>SF>NI>I don't know, I really have to get cable!!! SC>SF>SC>SF>SC>SF>Just think of the new TV you could watch. SC>SF>SC>SF>SC>Thats the reason we haven't gotten cable yet. SC>SF>SC>SF>SC>Aside from Babylon 5, we hardley have any time to watch TV. SC>SF>SC>SF>There is always the middle of the night. SC>SF>SC>That is reserved for other things :) SC>SF>SC>--- SC>SF>SC> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ I am Daffyduck of Borg. Resithtanth is dethPICable! SC>SF>And other forums! SC>Is there a forum to discuss sleeping ? :) SC>--- SC> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Closed on account of molasses. - WCF in "It's a Gift" Sort of....actually 3 or 4. Date: Thursday, July 17, 1997 2:49pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 739260 To: Nightbird Re: B5-DROPPED AND SAVED (Reply to #739178, Reply to #739154, Reply to #739049, R*) (2 replies) NI>SF>NI>SF>I>SF>I>SF>I>SF>I>SF>WB has annouced that they are not renewing B5 f NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>however, TNT has picked up B5 for a fifth s NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>1998 as well as for some B5 movies. NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>Thank God, will in still be on the WB? NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI> * OLX 2.1 TD * Do vegetarians eat animal crac NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>Not after this season. Do you have cable yet? NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>I go the news from my Steve & I've really got to get NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI> * OLX 2.1 TD * Suck squeeze bang blow. Internal com NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>So, what are you waiting for? NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>I don't know, I really have to get cable!!! NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>Just think of the new TV you could watch. NI>SF>NI>SF>NI> I know, I just got back from Mom & Dad's (they have cable NI>SF>NI>SF>So pick up the phone already! NI>SF>NI>I will!! NI>SF>NI> * OLX 2.1 TD * No Woody, I said TUCK the kids in bed!...Mia Farrow NI>SF>So...? NI>A few more months Months?????? Date: Thursday, July 17, 1997 2:49pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 739261 To: Nightbird Re: B5-DROPPED AND SAVED (Reply to #739179, Reply to #739155, Reply to #739050, R*) (1 reply) NI>SF>NI>SF>C>SF>SC>SF>NI>I don't know, I really have to get cable!!! NI>SF>NI>SF>SC>SF>SC>SF>Just think of the new TV you could watch. NI>SF>NI>SF>SC>SF>SC>Thats the reason we haven't gotten cable yet. NI>SF>NI>SF>SC>SF>SC>Aside from Babylon 5, we hardley have any time to watch TV NI>SF>NI>SF>SC>SF>There is always the middle of the night. NI>SF>NI>SF>SC>That is reserved for other things :) NI>SF>NI>SF>And other forums! NI>SF>NI>That's an interesting way to put it. NI>SF>NI> * OLX 2.1 TD * The pancake house was robbed. How waffle. NI>SF>You would not want me to be boring. NI>But of course ( tipping my hat) Date: Thursday, July 17, 1997 4:33pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 739270 To: Steve Flur Re: B5-DROPPED AND SAVED (Reply to #739260, Reply to #739178, Reply to #739154, R*) (1 reply) SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>I>SF>I>SF>I>SF>I>SF>WB has annouced that they are not renewing B SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>however, TNT has picked up B5 for a fift SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>1998 as well as for some B5 movies. SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>Thank God, will in still be on the WB? SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI> * OLX 2.1 TD * Do vegetarians eat animal c SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>Not after this season. Do you have cable yet? SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>I go the news from my Steve & I've really got to SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI> * OLX 2.1 TD * Suck squeeze bang blow. Internal SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>So, what are you waiting for? SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>I don't know, I really have to get cable!!! SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>Just think of the new TV you could watch. SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI> I know, I just got back from Mom & Dad's (they have ca SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>So pick up the phone already! SF>NI>SF>NI>I will!! SF>NI>SF>NI> * OLX 2.1 TD * No Woody, I said TUCK the kids in bed!...Mia Farrow SF>NI>SF>So...? SF>NI>A few more months SF>Months?????? Yes months, want to try to get a better tv first Date: Thursday, July 17, 1997 4:33pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 739271 To: Steve Flur Re: B5-DROPPED AND SAVED (Reply to #739261, Reply to #739179, Reply to #739155, R*) (1 reply) SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>C>SF>SC>SF>NI>I don't know, I really have to get cable!!! SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>SC>SF>SC>SF>Just think of the new TV you could watch. SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>SC>SF>SC>Thats the reason we haven't gotten cable yet. SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>SC>SF>SC>Aside from Babylon 5, we hardley have any time to watch SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>SC>SF>There is always the middle of the night. SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>SC>That is reserved for other things :) SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>And other forums! SF>NI>SF>NI>That's an interesting way to put it. SF>NI>SF>NI> * OLX 2.1 TD * The pancake house was robbed. How waffle. SF>NI>SF>You would not want me to be boring. SF>NI>But of course SF>( tipping my hat) cute, Mr Flur, very cute Date: Thursday, July 17, 1997 4:56pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve C Msg#: 739278 To: Steve Flur Re: B5-DROPPED AND SAVED (Reply to #739259, Reply to #739166, Reply to #739032, R*) (1 reply) SF>SC>SF>SC>That is reserved for other things :) SF>SC>SF>And other forums! SF>SC>Is there a forum to discuss sleeping ? :) SF>Sort of....actually 3 or 4. And one for putting us to sleep /Birddroppings --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ I'm too sexy for my tagline Date: Thursday, July 17, 1997 4:56pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve C Msg#: 739280 To: Steve Flur Re: B5-DROPPED AND SAVED (Reply to #739260, Reply to #739178, Reply to #739154, R*) (1 reply) >SF>NI>I don't know, I really have to get cable!!! NI>SF>Just think of the new TV you could watch. >NI> I know, I just got back from Mom & Dad's (they have cable) >SF>So pick up the phone already! SF>NI>I will!! >SF>NI> * OLX 2.1 TD * No Woody, I said TUCK the kids in bed!...Mia Farrow NI>SF>So...? SF>NI>A few more months SF>Months?????? We don't watch much TV anyway, so as long as we have it hooked up before they broadcast "In The Beginning" ( The first movie ) I'll be happy --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ I am with you-even until the end of time. Date: Friday, July 18, 1997 10:36am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 739318 To: Nightbird Re: B5-DROPPED AND SAVED (Reply to #739270, Reply to #739260, Reply to #739178, R*) (2 replies) NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>I>SF>I>SF>I>SF>I>SF>WB has annouced that they are not renewin NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>however, TNT has picked up B5 for a f NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>1998 as well as for some B5 movies. NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>Thank God, will in still be on the WB? NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI> * OLX 2.1 TD * Do vegetarians eat anima NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>Not after this season. Do you have cable ye NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>I go the news from my Steve & I've really got NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI> * OLX 2.1 TD * Suck squeeze bang blow. Intern NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>So, what are you waiting for? NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>I don't know, I really have to get cable!!! NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>Just think of the new TV you could watch. NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI> I know, I just got back from Mom & Dad's (they have NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>So pick up the phone already! NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>I will!! NI>SF>NI>SF>NI> * OLX 2.1 TD * No Woody, I said TUCK the kids in bed!...Mia Far NI>SF>NI>SF>So...? NI>SF>NI>A few more months NI>SF>Months?????? NI>Yes months, want to try to get a better tv first Good cable reception can make an old TV seem improved. Date: Friday, July 18, 1997 10:37am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 739319 To: Nightbird Re: B5-DROPPED AND SAVED (Reply to #739271, Reply to #739261, Reply to #739179, R*) (1 reply) NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>C>SF>SC>SF>NI>I don't know, I really have to get cable!!! NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>SC>SF>SC>SF>Just think of the new TV you could watch. NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>SC>SF>SC>Thats the reason we haven't gotten cable yet. NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>SC>SF>SC>Aside from Babylon 5, we hardley have any time to wa NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>SC>SF>There is always the middle of the night. NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>SC>That is reserved for other things :) NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>And other forums! NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>That's an interesting way to put it. NI>SF>NI>SF>NI> * OLX 2.1 TD * The pancake house was robbed. How waffle. NI>SF>NI>SF>You would not want me to be boring. NI>SF>NI>But of course NI>SF>( tipping my hat) NI>cute, Mr Flur, very cute We know! Date: Friday, July 18, 1997 10:37am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 739320 To: Steve C Re: B5-DROPPED AND SAVED (Reply to #739278, Reply to #739259, Reply to #739166, R*) SC>SF>SC>SF>SC>That is reserved for other things :) SC>SF>SC>SF>And other forums! SC>SF>SC>Is there a forum to discuss sleeping ? :) SC>SF>Sort of....actually 3 or 4. SC>And one for putting us to sleep /Birddroppings SC>--- SC> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ I'm too sexy for my tagline Oh....the one about the old duck. Date: Friday, July 18, 1997 10:38am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 739321 To: Steve C Re: B5-DROPPED AND SAVED (Reply to #739280, Reply to #739260, Reply to #739178, R*) (1 reply) SC>>SF>NI>I don't know, I really have to get cable!!! SC>NI>SF>Just think of the new TV you could watch. SC>>NI> I know, I just got back from Mom & Dad's (they have cable) SC>>SF>So pick up the phone already! SC>SF>NI>I will!! SC>>SF>NI> * OLX 2.1 TD * No Woody, I said TUCK the kids in bed!...Mia Farrow SC>NI>SF>So...? SC>SF>NI>A few more months SC>SF>Months?????? SC>We don't watch much TV anyway, so as long as we have it hooked up before SC>they broadcast "In The Beginning" ( The first movie ) I'll be happy SC>--- SC> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ I am with you-even until the end of time. And the date of that broadcast is? Date: Friday, July 18, 1997 5:47pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve C Msg#: 739358 To: Steve Flur Re: B5-DROPPED AND SAVED (Reply to #739321, Reply to #739280, Reply to #739260, R*) (1 reply) SF>SC>NI>SF>So...? SF>SC>SF>NI>A few more months SF>SC>SF>Months?????? SF>SC>We don't watch much TV anyway, so as long as we have it hooked up before SF>SC>they broadcast "In The Beginning" ( The first movie ) I'll be happy SF>SC>--- SF>SC> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ I am with you-even until the end of time. SF>And the date of that broadcast is? January 4 1997 Babylon 5: In The Beginning at 8pm and 12 midnight Also January 4 1997 The Gathering the B5 pilot at 10pm and 2am --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Bo Derek has a baud rate of 10! Date: Sunday, July 20, 1997 11:39am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 739417 To: Steve Flur Re: B5-DROPPED AND SAVED (Reply to #739318, Reply to #739270, Reply to #739260, R*) SF>I>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>I>SF>I>SF>I>SF>I>SF>WB has annouced that they are not renew SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>however, TNT has picked up B5 for SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>1998 as well as for some B5 movies SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>Thank God, will in still be on the WB SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI> * OLX 2.1 TD * Do vegetarians eat an SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>Not after this season. Do you have cable SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>I go the news from my Steve & I've really g SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI> * OLX 2.1 TD * Suck squeeze bang blow. Int SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>So, what are you waiting for? SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>I don't know, I really have to get cable!!! SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>Just think of the new TV you could watch. SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI> I know, I just got back from Mom & Dad's (they h SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>So pick up the phone already! SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>I will!! SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI> * OLX 2.1 TD * No Woody, I said TUCK the kids in bed!...Mia SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>So...? SF>NI>SF>NI>A few more months SF>NI>SF>Months?????? SF>NI>Yes months, want to try to get a better tv first SF>Good cable reception can make an old TV seem improved. True * OLX 2.1 TD * I thought the book was blue until it was read. Date: Monday, July 21, 1997 8:35pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 739501 To: Steve Flur Re: B5-DROPPED AND SAVED (Reply to #739318, Reply to #739270, Reply to #739260, R*) SF>I>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>I>SF>I>SF>I>SF>I>SF>WB has annouced that they are not renew SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>however, TNT has picked up B5 for SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>1998 as well as for some B5 movies SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>Thank God, will in still be on the WB SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI> * OLX 2.1 TD * Do vegetarians eat an SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>Not after this season. Do you have cable SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>I go the news from my Steve & I've really g SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI> * OLX 2.1 TD * Suck squeeze bang blow. Int SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>So, what are you waiting for? SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>I don't know, I really have to get cable!!! SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>Just think of the new TV you could watch. SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI> I know, I just got back from Mom & Dad's (they h SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>So pick up the phone already! SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>I will!! SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI> * OLX 2.1 TD * No Woody, I said TUCK the kids in bed!...Mia SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>So...? SF>NI>SF>NI>A few more months SF>NI>SF>Months?????? SF>NI>Yes months, want to try to get a better tv first SF>Good cable reception can make an old TV seem improved. I'll see, when the time comes. * OLX 2.1 TD * ... Tell Godot I couldn't wait. Date: Monday, July 21, 1997 8:36pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 739502 To: Steve Flur Re: B5-DROPPED AND SAVED (Reply to #739319, Reply to #739271, Reply to #739261, R*) SF>I>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>C>SF>SC>SF>NI>I don't know, I really have to get cable!!! SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>SC>SF>SC>SF>Just think of the new TV you could watch. SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>SC>SF>SC>Thats the reason we haven't gotten cable yet. SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>SC>SF>SC>Aside from Babylon 5, we hardley have any time to SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>SC>SF>There is always the middle of the night. SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>SC>That is reserved for other things :) SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>And other forums! SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI>That's an interesting way to put it. SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>NI> * OLX 2.1 TD * The pancake house was robbed. How waffle. SF>NI>SF>NI>SF>You would not want me to be boring. SF>NI>SF>NI>But of course SF>NI>SF>( tipping my hat) SF>NI>cute, Mr Flur, very cute SF>We know! Whatever * OLX 2.1 TD * Save it for a rainy day. (Oh, look, clouds.) Date: Tuesday, July 22, 1997 9:57am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 739528 To: Steve C Re: B5-DROPPED AND SAVED (Reply to #739358, Reply to #739321, Reply to #739280, R*) (1 reply) SC>SF>SC>NI>SF>So...? SC>SF>SC>SF>NI>A few more months SC>SF>SC>SF>Months?????? SC>SF>SC>We don't watch much TV anyway, so as long as we have it hooked up befo SC>SF>SC>they broadcast "In The Beginning" ( The first movie ) I'll be happy SC>SF>SC>--- SC>SF>SC> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ I am with you-even until the end of time. SC>SF>And the date of that broadcast is? SC>January 4 1997 Babylon 5: In The Beginning at 8pm and 12 midnight SC>Also SC>January 4 1997 The Gathering the B5 pilot at 10pm and 2am SC>--- SC> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Bo Derek has a baud rate of 10! What are we supposed to do until then? Date: Tuesday, July 22, 1997 10:31am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve C Msg#: 739533 To: Steve Flur Re: B5-DROPPED AND SAVED (Reply to #739528, Reply to #739358, Reply to #739321, R*) (1 reply) SF>SC>SF>And the date of that broadcast is? SF>SC>January 4 1997 Babylon 5: In The Beginning at 8pm and 12 midnight SF>SC>Also SF>SC>January 4 1997 The Gathering the B5 pilot at 10pm and 2am SF>SC>--- SF>What are we supposed to do until then? In october UPN will broadcast the final 4 episodes of the current season (season # 4). This will bring us to perhaps mid November. After that it is only 6 weeks without Babylon 5, so perhaps we shall survive. :) --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ #31-3771: I'm here because I failed my Turing Test. Date: Tuesday, July 22, 1997 1:10pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 739538 To: Steve C Re: B5-DROPPED AND SAVED (Reply to #739533, Reply to #739528, Reply to #739358, R*) (1 reply) SC>SF>SC>SF>And the date of that broadcast is? SC>SF>SC>January 4 1997 Babylon 5: In The Beginning at 8pm and 12 midnight SC>SF>SC>Also SC>SF>SC>January 4 1997 The Gathering the B5 pilot at 10pm and 2am SC>SF>SC>--- SC>SF>What are we supposed to do until then? SC>In october UPN will broadcast the final 4 episodes of the current season SC>(season # 4). This will bring us to perhaps mid November. After that it SC>is only 6 weeks without Babylon 5, so perhaps we shall survive. :) SC>--- SC> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ #31-3771: I'm here because I failed my Turing Test. They are not finishing this season until October????? Date: Wednesday, July 23, 1997 12:35pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve C Msg#: 739564 To: Steve Flur Re: B5-DROPPED AND SAVED (Reply to #739538, Reply to #739533, Reply to #739528, R*) (1 reply) SF>C>SF>SC>SF>And the date of that broadcast is? SF>SC>SF>SC>January 4 1997 Babylon 5: In The Beginning at 8pm and 12 midnight SF>SC>SF>SC>Also SF>SC>SF>SC>January 4 1997 The Gathering the B5 pilot at 10pm and 2am SF>SC>SF>SC>--- SF>SC>SF>What are we supposed to do until then? SF>SC>In october UPN will broadcast the final 4 episodes of the current season SF>SC>(season # 4). This will bring us to perhaps mid November. After that it SF>SC>is only 6 weeks without Babylon 5, so perhaps we shall survive. :) SF>They are not finishing this season until October????? No. When they originally set up the broadcast dates for B5 season 4, JMS was not sure he would be given renewal for the fifth season. Rather than leave us hanging, he tied up the loose ends of season 4 in an additional 4 episodes, same as he did for season 3. His thoughts were that if he got renewed he would show them just before season 5 began, If he didn't, at least he wouldn't leave us hanging. --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Odo Burger: It's a burger! It's a shake! It's fries! Date: Thursday, July 24, 1997 8:12am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 739580 To: Steve C Re: B5-DROPPED AND SAVED (Reply to #739564, Reply to #739538, Reply to #739533, R*) (1 reply) SC>SF>C>SF>SC>SF>And the date of that broadcast is? SC>SF>SC>SF>SC>January 4 1997 Babylon 5: In The Beginning at 8pm and 12 midnig SC>SF>SC>SF>SC>Also SC>SF>SC>SF>SC>January 4 1997 The Gathering the B5 pilot at 10pm and 2am SC>SF>SC>SF>SC>--- SC>SF>SC>SF>What are we supposed to do until then? SC>SF>SC>In october UPN will broadcast the final 4 episodes of the current seas SC>SF>SC>(season # 4). This will bring us to perhaps mid November. After that i SC>SF>SC>is only 6 weeks without Babylon 5, so perhaps we shall survive. :) SC>SF>They are not finishing this season until October????? SC>No. When they originally set up the broadcast dates for B5 season 4, JMS SC>was not sure he would be given renewal for the fifth season. Rather than SC>leave us hanging, he tied up the loose ends of season 4 in an additional SC>4 episodes, same as he did for season 3. His thoughts were that if he SC>got renewed he would show them just before season 5 began, If he didn't, SC>at least he wouldn't leave us hanging. SC>--- SC> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Odo Burger: It's a burger! It's a shake! It's fries! Sounds like logical reasoning. Date: Thursday, July 24, 1997 10:08am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve C Msg#: 739585 To: Steve Flur Re: B5-DROPPED AND SAVED (Reply to #739580, Reply to #739564, Reply to #739538, R*) (1 reply) SF>SC>SF>They are not finishing this season until October????? SF>SC>No. When they originally set up the broadcast dates for B5 season 4, JMS SF>SC>was not sure he would be given renewal for the fifth season. Rather than SF>SC>leave us hanging, he tied up the loose ends of season 4 in an additional SF>SC>4 episodes, same as he did for season 3. His thoughts were that if he SF>SC>got renewed he would show them just before season 5 began, If he didn't, SF>SC>at least he wouldn't leave us hanging. SF>SC>--- SF>SC> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Odo Burger: It's a burger! It's a shake! It's fries! SF>Sounds like logical reasoning. Thats what I like about JMS. He appears to be in it for the love of it, not the money or glory. --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ I fight evil wherever it is! Except in dark, scary places Date: Thursday, July 24, 1997 11:19am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 739587 To: Steve C Re: B5-DROPPED AND SAVED (Reply to #739585, Reply to #739580, Reply to #739564, R*) SC>SF>SC>SF>They are not finishing this season until October????? SC>SF>SC>No. When they originally set up the broadcast dates for B5 season 4, J SC>SF>SC>was not sure he would be given renewal for the fifth season. Rather th SC>SF>SC>leave us hanging, he tied up the loose ends of season 4 in an addition SC>SF>SC>4 episodes, same as he did for season 3. His thoughts were that if he SC>SF>SC>got renewed he would show them just before season 5 began, If he didn' SC>SF>SC>at least he wouldn't leave us hanging. SC>SF>SC>--- SC>SF>SC> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Odo Burger: It's a burger! It's a shake! It's fries! SC>SF>Sounds like logical reasoning. SC>Thats what I like about JMS. He appears to be in it for the love of it, SC>not the money or glory. SC>--- SC> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ I fight evil wherever it is! Except in dark, scary places He is unquestionablly unique! Date: Monday, November 3, 1997 12:49pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 742196 To: Steve C Re: B5 (1 reply) Are you still watching B5? If so, what do you think of the recent final 4 episodes of season 4? Date: Tuesday, November 4, 1997 8:59am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve C Msg#: 742207 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #742196) (1 reply) SF>Are you still watching B5? If so, what do you think of the recent final SF>4 episodes of season 4? Yes, I still watch B5. I like the way JMS has set the last 4 episodes, to lure viewers to cable for the remaining season plus the extras (the movies, Babylon5 Cruisade - the possible spinoff series about the Rangers) I have heard that many cable systems have had a marked increase in subscribers that they have attributed to B5 fans wanting to follow the show. --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Jesus died for our sins. Let's not disappoint him. - D.S. Date: Wednesday, November 5, 1997 12:52pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 742227 To: Steve C Re: B5 (Reply to #742207, Reply to #742196) (2 replies) SC>SF>Are you still watching B5? If so, what do you think of the recent final SC>SF>4 episodes of season 4? SC>Yes, I still watch B5. SC>I like the way JMS has set the last 4 episodes, to lure viewers to cable SC>for the remaining season plus the extras (the movies, SC>Babylon5 Cruisade - the possible spinoff series about the Rangers) SC>I have heard that many cable systems have had a marked increase in SC>subscribers that they have attributed to B5 fans wanting to follow the SC>show. SC>--- SC> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Jesus died for our sins. Let's not disappoint him. - D.S. So, have you got cable yet, or will I have to post weekly summaries of what you missed? Date: Thursday, November 6, 1997 5:15pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve C Msg#: 742250 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #742227, Reply to #742207, Reply to #742196) (1 reply) SF>SC>I have heard that many cable systems have had a marked increase in SF>SC>subscribers that they have attributed to B5 fans wanting to follow the SF>SC>show. SF>SC>--- SF>So, have you got cable yet, or will I have to post weekly summaries of SF>what you missed? I should have it before then, but thanks for the offer. --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Pinky! Are you pondering what I'm pondering? - Brain Date: Friday, November 7, 1997 8:45am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 742257 To: Steve C Re: B5 (Reply to #742250, Reply to #742227, Reply to #742207, R*) (1 reply) SC>SF>SC>I have heard that many cable systems have had a marked increase in SC>SF>SC>subscribers that they have attributed to B5 fans wanting to follow the SC>SF>SC>show. SC>SF>SC>--- SC>SF>So, have you got cable yet, or will I have to post weekly summaries of SC>SF>what you missed? SC>I should have it before then, but thanks for the offer. SC>--- SC> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Pinky! Are you pondering what I'm pondering? - Brain Besides the new season and the B5 movies, TNT will be broadcasting all of seasons 1-4, in sequence before beginning season 5. Date: Friday, November 7, 1997 2:20pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve C Msg#: 742261 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #742257, Reply to #742250, Reply to #742227, R*) (1 reply) SF>Besides the new season and the B5 movies, TNT will be broadcasting all SF>of seasons 1-4, in sequence before beginning season 5. Actually they are starting season 5 in mid January, so the old and new shows will be running concurrently. --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Madness takes its toll. Please have exact change ready. Date: Friday, November 7, 1997 8:21pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 742263 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #742227, Reply to #742207, Reply to #742196) (1 reply) SF>C>SF>Are you still watching B5? If so, what do you think of the recent final SF>SC>SF>4 episodes of season 4? SF>SC>Yes, I still watch B5. SF>SC>I like the way JMS has set the last 4 episodes, to lure viewers to cable SF>SC>for the remaining season plus the extras (the movies, SF>SC>Babylon5 Cruisade - the possible spinoff series about the Rangers) SF>SC>I have heard that many cable systems have had a marked increase in SF>SC>subscribers that they have attributed to B5 fans wanting to follow the SF>SC>show. SF>SC>--- SF>SC> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Jesus died for our sins. Let's not disappoint him. - D.S. SF>So, have you got cable yet, or will I have to post weekly summaries of SF>what you missed? We're getting it, one way or another!!! * OLX 2.1 TD * Synonym: word you use when you can't spell the other one. Date: Monday, November 10, 1997 11:35am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 742283 To: Steve C Re: B5 (Reply to #742261, Reply to #742257, Reply to #742250, R*) (1 reply) SC>SF>Besides the new season and the B5 movies, TNT will be broadcasting all SC>SF>of seasons 1-4, in sequence before beginning season 5. SC>Actually they are starting season 5 in mid January, so the old and new SC>shows will be running concurrently. SC>--- SC> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Madness takes its toll. Please have exact change ready. From what I have read B5 seasons 1-4 will begin in early January on a daily basis, in sequence, leading up to the new season 5. Date: Monday, November 10, 1997 11:36am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 742284 To: Nightbird Re: B5 (Reply to #742263, Reply to #742227, Reply to #742207, R*) (2 replies) NI>SF>C>SF>Are you still watching B5? If so, what do you think of the recent fi NI>SF>SC>SF>4 episodes of season 4? NI>SF>SC>Yes, I still watch B5. NI>SF>SC>I like the way JMS has set the last 4 episodes, to lure viewers to cab NI>SF>SC>for the remaining season plus the extras (the movies, NI>SF>SC>Babylon5 Cruisade - the possible spinoff series about the Rangers) NI>SF>SC>I have heard that many cable systems have had a marked increase in NI>SF>SC>subscribers that they have attributed to B5 fans wanting to follow the NI>SF>SC>show. NI>SF>SC>--- NI>SF>SC> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Jesus died for our sins. Let's not disappoint him. - D NI>SF>So, have you got cable yet, or will I have to post weekly summaries of NI>SF>what you missed? NI>We're getting it, one way or another!!! NI> * OLX 2.1 TD * Synonym: word you use when you can't spell the other one. How many ways of getting it are there? Date: Monday, November 10, 1997 5:34pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve C Msg#: 742288 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #742283, Reply to #742261, Reply to #742257, R*) (1 reply) SF>C>SF>Besides the new season and the B5 movies, TNT will be broadcasting all SF>SC>SF>of seasons 1-4, in sequence before beginning season 5. SF>SC>Actually they are starting season 5 in mid January, so the old and new SF>SC>shows will be running concurrently. SF>From what I have read B5 seasons 1-4 will begin in early January on a SF>daily basis, in sequence, leading up to the new season 5. Our sources seem to be in disagreement. The timeline I have read about, in a weekly collum by Dean Treadway of TNT Programming, printed in the Zocalo Newsletter, seasons 1 - 4 will be shown nightly (M-F) in order starting in early January. Season 5 will be shown one night a week ( I think it will be Wednesday, but I will check and get back to you) starting in mid January. After this initial showing they will take their place in the syndication order after season 4. --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ When will DOS tell me, "Excellent command or filename"? Date: Monday, November 10, 1997 5:34pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve C Msg#: 742290 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #742284, Reply to #742263, Reply to #742227, R*) (1 reply) SF>NI>We're getting it, one way or another!!! SF>How many ways of getting it are there? Thats a loaded question. It depends on your preferences, # of people involved, etc... Oh!, Were we talking about Television? :) --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Buffer: Programmer who works in the nude. - Jack Prieto Date: Tuesday, November 11, 1997 3:02pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 742307 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #742284, Reply to #742263, Reply to #742227, R*) (1 reply) SF>I>SF>C>SF>Are you still watching B5? If so, what do you think of the recent SF>NI>SF>SC>SF>4 episodes of season 4? SF>NI>SF>SC>Yes, I still watch B5. SF>NI>SF>SC>I like the way JMS has set the last 4 episodes, to lure viewers to SF>NI>SF>SC>for the remaining season plus the extras (the movies, SF>NI>SF>SC>Babylon5 Cruisade - the possible spinoff series about the Rangers) SF>NI>SF>SC>I have heard that many cable systems have had a marked increase in SF>NI>SF>SC>subscribers that they have attributed to B5 fans wanting to follow SF>NI>SF>SC>show. SF>NI>SF>SC>--- SF>NI>SF>SC> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Jesus died for our sins. Let's not disappoint him. SF>NI>SF>So, have you got cable yet, or will I have to post weekly summaries of SF>NI>SF>what you missed? SF>NI>We're getting it, one way or another!!! SF>NI> * OLX 2.1 TD * Synonym: word you use when you can't spell the other one. SF>How many ways of getting it are there? Well.... * OLX 2.1 TD * Sysoping: Not just an adventure, it's a job.. Date: Wednesday, November 12, 1997 12:41pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 742318 To: Steve C Re: B5 (Reply to #742288, Reply to #742283, Reply to #742261, R*) SC>SF>C>SF>Besides the new season and the B5 movies, TNT will be SC>broadcasting all SF>SC>SF>of seasons 1-4, in sequence before beginning SC>season 5. SC>SF>SC>Actually they are starting season 5 in mid January, so the old and new SC>SF>SC>shows will be running concurrently. SC>SF>From what I have read B5 seasons 1-4 will begin in early January on a SC>SF>daily basis, in sequence, leading up to the new season 5. SC>Our sources seem to be in disagreement. SC>The timeline I have read about, in a weekly collum by Dean SC>Treadway of TNT Programming, printed in the Zocalo Newsletter, SC>seasons 1 - 4 will be shown nightly (M-F) in order starting in early SC>January. Season 5 will be shown one night a week ( I think it will be SC>Wednesday, but I will check and get back to you) starting in mid SC>January. After this initial showing they will take their place in the SC>syndication order after season 4. SC>--- SC> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ When will DOS tell me, "Excellent command or filename"? The starting date for season 5 I got was Jan. 21st, at 10:00 PM, following the daily broadcasts of seasons 1-4. Date: Wednesday, November 12, 1997 12:42pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 742319 To: Steve C Re: B5 (Reply to #742290, Reply to #742284, Reply to #742263, R*) SC>SF>NI>We're getting it, one way or another!!! SC>SF>How many ways of getting it are there? SC>Thats a loaded question. SC>It depends on your preferences, # of people involved, etc... SC>Oh!, Were we talking about Television? :) SC>--- SC> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Buffer: Programmer who works in the nude. - Jack Prieto How does your better half deal with you? Date: Wednesday, November 12, 1997 12:43pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 742320 To: Nightbird Re: B5 (Reply to #742307, Reply to #742284, Reply to #742263, R*) NI>SF>I>SF>C>SF>Are you still watching B5? If so, what do you think of the rece NI>SF>NI>SF>SC>SF>4 episodes of season 4? NI>SF>NI>SF>SC>Yes, I still watch B5. NI>SF>NI>SF>SC>I like the way JMS has set the last 4 episodes, to lure viewers NI>SF>NI>SF>SC>for the remaining season plus the extras (the movies, NI>SF>NI>SF>SC>Babylon5 Cruisade - the possible spinoff series about the Ranger NI>SF>NI>SF>SC>I have heard that many cable systems have had a marked increase NI>SF>NI>SF>SC>subscribers that they have attributed to B5 fans wanting to foll NI>SF>NI>SF>SC>show. NI>SF>NI>SF>SC>--- NI>SF>NI>SF>SC> þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Jesus died for our sins. Let's not disappoint hi NI>SF>NI>SF>So, have you got cable yet, or will I have to post weekly summaries NI>SF>NI>SF>what you missed? NI>SF>NI>We're getting it, one way or another!!! NI>SF>NI> * OLX 2.1 TD * Synonym: word you use when you can't spell the other o NI>SF>How many ways of getting it are there? NI>Well.... NI> * OLX 2.1 TD * Sysoping: Not just an adventure, it's a job.. You are almost as bad! Date: Sunday, November 30, 1997 11:54pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Mick Msg#: 742724 To: ** ALL ** Re: DS9/Voyager (1 reply) Hi everyone! I would like to get some opinions on this. If you had achoice, between watching Voyager anf DS9, but you ould only watch one and not the other, which one would you choose? Date: Sunday, November 30, 1997 11:55pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Mick Msg#: 742725 To: ** ALL ** Re: Tim Russ Tim Russ, the actor who plays Tuvok on VOYAGER, has appeared in many guest roles, including ST:TNG, Hangin' with Mr.Cooper, and Seaquest. Can you tell me if you ahve seen him anywhere else? Date: Sunday, November 30, 1997 11:57pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Mick Msg#: 742726 To: ** ALL ** Re: Wheel of Time Has anyone read the WHEEL OF TIME series by Robert Jordan? If so , please send me a message, i would like to discuss it. I am also trying to write a WOT webpage! Date: Monday, December 1, 1997 6:58am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 742738 To: Mick Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #742724) (3 replies) DS 9, most definitely. I most confess, however, I hardly watch Voyager at all. I watched it a little the first season but it seemed to me that the writing was truly lame. However, I have heard rumors that one of the characters on Voyager..the borg, specifially, may be revealed to be a lesbian. If that happens, they may get me to watch again! Date: Monday, December 1, 1997 2:54pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Mick Msg#: 742741 To: Vida Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #742738, Reply to #742724) (1 reply) VI>DS 9, most definitely. VI>I most confess, however, I hardly watch Voyager at all. I watched it a VI>little the first season but it seemed to me that the writing was truly VI>lame. However, I have heard rumors that one of the characters on VI>Voyager..the borg, specifially, may be revealed to be a lesbian. If VI>that happens, they may get me to watch again! A lesbian? 7 of 9? ya gotta be kidding!!! Date: Monday, December 1, 1997 3:42pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Mick Msg#: 742745 To: ** ALL ** Re: Dax I saw Terry Farrell on a rerun of the Cosby Show. Date: Monday, December 1, 1997 3:56pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve C Msg#: 742749 To: Vida Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #742738, Reply to #742724) (1 reply) VI>DS 9, most definitely. VI>I most confess, however, I hardly watch Voyager at all. I watched it a VI>little the first season but it seemed to me that the writing was truly VI>lame. However, I have heard rumors that one of the characters on VI>Voyager..the borg, specifially, may be revealed to be a lesbian. If VI>that happens, they may get me to watch again! In that case, Can I interest you in Babylon 5, which will be running on TNT starting in January. One of the characters, Talia Winters, shows some very lesbian tendencies. The character is played by Andrea Thompson, who is currently on NYPD Blue. --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ I'm in shape ... round's a shape isn't it? Date: Monday, December 1, 1997 7:24pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Nightbird Msg#: 742753 To: Vida Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #742738, Reply to #742724) (1 reply) VI>DS 9, most definitely. VI>I most confess, however, I hardly watch Voyager at all. I watched it a VI>little the first season but it seemed to me that the writing was truly VI>lame. However, I have heard rumors that one of the characters on VI>Voyager..the borg, specifially, may be revealed to be a lesbian. If VI>that happens, they may get me to watch again! You'd like seven of nine Vida!!! The show has gotten much better(FINALLY!!!!!) * OLX 2.1 TD * The number you have reached is not in service ! Date: Monday, December 1, 1997 7:51pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 742758 To: Mick Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #742741, Reply to #742738, Reply to #742724) (1 reply) MI>VI>DS 9, most definitely. MI>VI>I most confess, however, I hardly watch Voyager at all. I watched it a MI>VI>little the first season but it seemed to me that the writing was truly MI>VI>lame. However, I have heard rumors that one of the characters on MI>VI>Voyager..the borg, specifially, may be revealed to be a lesbian. If MI>VI>that happens, they may get me to watch again! MI>A lesbian? 7 of 9? ya gotta be kidding!!! That's the rumor I heard. Why do you say I gotta be kidding? Date: Monday, December 1, 1997 7:52pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 742759 To: Steve C Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #742749, Reply to #742738, Reply to #742724) (1 reply) SC>VI>DS 9, most definitely. SC>VI>I most confess, however, I hardly watch Voyager at all. I watched it a SC>VI>little the first season but it seemed to me that the writing was truly SC>VI>lame. However, I have heard rumors that one of the characters on SC>VI>Voyager..the borg, specifially, may be revealed to be a lesbian. If SC>VI>that happens, they may get me to watch again! SC>In that case, Can I interest you in Babylon 5, which will be running on SC>TNT starting in January. One of the characters, Talia Winters, shows SC>some very lesbian tendencies. The character is played by Andrea SC>Thompson, who is currently on NYPD Blue. SC>--- Don't start up again with B5! :) I know all about the lesbian character on B5, but I could just never get into the show. I didn't understand what the hell was going on the few times I watched it. And the writing seemed real weak. Date: Monday, December 1, 1997 7:53pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 742760 To: Nightbird Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #742753, Reply to #742738, Reply to #742724) NI>VI>DS 9, most definitely. NI>VI>I most confess, however, I hardly watch Voyager at all. I watched it a NI>VI>little the first season but it seemed to me that the writing was truly NI>VI>lame. However, I have heard rumors that one of the characters on NI>VI>Voyager..the borg, specifially, may be revealed to be a lesbian. If NI>VI>that happens, they may get me to watch again! NI>You'd like seven of nine Vida!!! NI>The show has gotten much better(FINALLY!!!!!) When is it on again? Maybe I will try to watch it. Heaven knows, as a card carrying feminist I love the fact that they have a female captain on Voyager! Date: Tuesday, December 2, 1997 5:26pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve C Msg#: 742768 To: Vida Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #742759, Reply to #742749, Reply to #742738, R*) (1 reply) VI>SC>In that case, Can I interest you in Babylon 5, which will be running on VI>SC>TNT starting in January. One of the characters, Talia Winters, shows VI>SC>some very lesbian tendencies. The character is played by Andrea VI>SC>Thompson, who is currently on NYPD Blue. VI>SC>--- VI>Don't start up again with B5! :) VI>I know all about the lesbian character on B5, but I could just never VI>get into the show. I didn't understand what the hell was going on the VI>few times I watched it. And the writing seemed real weak. The problem with the show is that it is a continuing story line, so if you jump in to the middle, you need to watch about 3 episodes to get up to speed. And as far as weak goes, the writing is better than 3 of the 4 Star Trek series (Next Generation beats all the other shows hands down) The entire run will be shown on TNT starting in January and I intend to tape them all, So if you change your mind, I should have all the episodes if you wish to borrow them. If you don't wish to get into it, then I won't bug you. Now I'll just get down from my soapbox :) --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ Proofread carefully to see if you any words out. Date: Tuesday, December 2, 1997 10:57pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Mick Msg#: 742769 To: Vida Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #742758, Reply to #742741, Reply to #742738, R*) (1 reply) VI>MI>VI>DS 9, most definitely. VI>MI>VI>I most confess, however, I hardly watch Voyager at all. I watched it VI>MI>VI>little the first season but it seemed to me that the writing was truly VI>MI>VI>lame. However, I have heard rumors that one of the characters on VI>MI>VI>Voyager..the borg, specifially, may be revealed to be a lesbian. If VI>MI>VI>that happens, they may get me to watch again! VI>MI>A lesbian? 7 of 9? ya gotta be kidding!!! VI>That's the rumor I heard. Why do you say I gotta be kidding? Because the character seems to have been created as a romantic interest for Harry Kim! It is highly unlikely that they will abandon that story line and pursue a totally different one Date: Wednesday, December 3, 1997 5:39am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 742774 To: Steve C Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #742768, Reply to #742759, Reply to #742749, R*) (1 reply) SC>VI>SC>In that case, Can I interest you in Babylon 5, which will be running o SC>VI>SC>TNT starting in January. One of the characters, Talia Winters, shows SC>VI>SC>some very lesbian tendencies. The character is played by Andrea SC>VI>SC>Thompson, who is currently on NYPD Blue. SC>VI>SC>--- SC>VI>Don't start up again with B5! :) SC>VI>I know all about the lesbian character on B5, but I could just never SC>VI>get into the show. I didn't understand what the hell was going on the SC>VI>few times I watched it. And the writing seemed real weak. SC>The problem with the show is that it is a continuing story line, so if SC>you jump in to the middle, you need to watch about 3 episodes to get up SC>to speed. And as far as weak goes, the writing is better than 3 of the 4 SC>Star Trek series (Next Generation beats all the other shows hands down) Hey I like DS 9 a lot! And the classic Star Trek series is CLASSIC! SC>The entire run will be shown on TNT starting in January and I intend to SC>tape them all, So if you change your mind, I should have all the SC>episodes if you wish to borrow them. If you don't wish to get into it, SC>then I won't bug you. SC>Now I'll just get down from my soapbox :) SC>-- OK, how about this for a deal? Are they starting from Episode one of B5 on TNT? If you tell me in advance when B5 is being shown on B5 and IF I can fit it into my schedule I will watch the first 2 or 3 episodes and see if I can "get it". The problem for me may very well be the continuing story line of the show. Notice the provisio here--it has to fit into my schedule, which can be tough! :) Date: Wednesday, December 3, 1997 5:41am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 742775 To: Mick Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #742769, Reply to #742758, Reply to #742741, R*) (1 reply) MI>VI>MI>VI>DS 9, most definitely. MI>VI>MI>VI>I most confess, however, I hardly watch Voyager at all. I watched MI>VI>MI>VI>little the first season but it seemed to me that the writing was tr MI>VI>MI>VI>lame. However, I have heard rumors that one of the characters on MI>VI>MI>VI>Voyager..the borg, specifially, may be revealed to be a lesbian. I MI>VI>MI>VI>that happens, they may get me to watch again! MI>VI>MI>A lesbian? 7 of 9? ya gotta be kidding!!! MI>VI>That's the rumor I heard. Why do you say I gotta be kidding? MI>Because the character seems to have been created as a romantic interest MI>for Harry Kim! It is highly unlikely that they will abandon that story MI>line and pursue a totally different one Well sometimes maybe they should! :) Only the person I would nominate as 'most likely to be a lesbian" is Kera Niorese on DS 9. Boy does it drive me crazy that they made that character 'straight'! Date: Thursday, December 4, 1997 10:39pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Mick Msg#: 742779 To: Vida Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #742775, Reply to #742769, Reply to #742758, R*) (1 reply) VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>DS 9, most definitely. VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>I most confess, however, I hardly watch Voyager at all. I watch VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>little the first season but it seemed to me that the writing was VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>lame. However, I have heard rumors that one of the characters o VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>Voyager..the borg, specifially, may be revealed to be a lesbian. VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>that happens, they may get me to watch again! VI>MI>VI>MI>A lesbian? 7 of 9? ya gotta be kidding!!! VI>MI>VI>That's the rumor I heard. Why do you say I gotta be kidding? VI>MI>Because the character seems to have been created as a romantic interest VI>MI>for Harry Kim! It is highly unlikely that they will abandon that story VI>MI>line and pursue a totally different one VI>Well sometimes maybe they should! :) VI>Only the person I would nominate as 'most likely to be a lesbian" is VI>Kera Niorese on DS 9. Boy does it drive me crazy that they made that VI>character 'straight'! Why does it bother you that she is straight? And she IS straight!!! Date: Thursday, December 4, 1997 10:42pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Mick Msg#: 742780 To: ** ALL ** Re: Joke How many Romulans does it take to change a lightbulb? Two. One to change it, and another one to report him to the Talshi Yar Date: Thursday, December 4, 1997 10:43pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Mick Msg#: 742781 To: ** ALL ** Re: joke How many Ferrengi does it take to change a lightbulb Only one, but it takes him a whole day to decide if its cost-effective Date: Friday, December 5, 1997 6:19am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 742791 To: Mick Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #742779, Reply to #742775, Reply to #742769, R*) (1 reply) MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>DS 9, most definitely. MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>I most confess, however, I hardly watch Voyager at all. I wa MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>little the first season but it seemed to me that the writing MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>lame. However, I have heard rumors that one of the character MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>Voyager..the borg, specifially, may be revealed to be a lesbi MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>that happens, they may get me to watch again! MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>A lesbian? 7 of 9? ya gotta be kidding!!! MI>VI>MI>VI>That's the rumor I heard. Why do you say I gotta be kidding? MI>VI>MI>Because the character seems to have been created as a romantic interes MI>VI>MI>for Harry Kim! It is highly unlikely that they will abandon that story MI>VI>MI>line and pursue a totally different one MI>VI>Well sometimes maybe they should! :) MI>VI>Only the person I would nominate as 'most likely to be a lesbian" is MI>VI>Kera Niorese on DS 9. Boy does it drive me crazy that they made that MI>VI>character 'straight'! MI>Why does it bother you that she is straight? And she IS straight!!! It drives me nuts because the actress that plays her absoultely sends my "gaydar" into overdrive. I think it was a cowardly decision that the writers took in not making Kira a lesbian. The character is such a butch anyway, for crying out loud! Date: Friday, December 5, 1997 2:55pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve C Msg#: 742799 To: Vida Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #742774, Reply to #742768, Reply to #742759, R*) (1 reply) VI>SC>VI>I know all about the lesbian character on B5, but I could just never VI>SC>VI>get into the show. I didn't understand what the hell was going on the VI>SC>VI>few times I watched it. And the writing seemed real weak. VI>SC>The problem with the show is that it is a continuing story line, so if VI>SC>you jump in to the middle, you need to watch about 3 episodes to get up VI>SC>to speed. And as far as weak goes, the writing is better than 3 of the 4 VI>SC>Star Trek series (Next Generation beats all the other shows hands down) VI>Hey I like DS 9 a lot! And the classic Star Trek series is CLASSIC! I never said that I didn't like them, Only that the writing was, in my opinion, weaker than B 5 VI>OK, how about this for a deal? Are they starting from Episode one of VI>B5 on TNT? If you tell me in advance when B5 is being shown on B5 and VI>IF I can fit it into my schedule I will watch the first 2 or 3 episodes VI>and see if I can "get it". The problem for me may very well be the VI>continuing story line of the show. They are starting with a new movie, In the Begining, which explains how we made contact with the other races and how the Babylon % station came about.. It will be followed by The Gathering, which was the series pilot movie. Then they will begin the episodes in order from #1. VI>Notice the provisio here--it has to fit into my schedule, which can be VI>tough! :) It is going to be on 5 days a week, which will be hard to fit into my schedule also, that is why I will be taping them, to watch at my leasure. If you like the first few episodes, don't worry about missing any, because I can always loan them to you so you can watch them when YOU want to. --- þ OLX 2.1 TD þ MSI HQ! BBS - Home of Off-Line Xpress 805-395-0650 Date: Saturday, December 6, 1997 8:39am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 742810 To: Steve C Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #742799, Reply to #742774, Reply to #742768, R*) (1 reply) SC>VI>SC>VI>I know all about the lesbian character on B5, but I could just neve SC>VI>SC>VI>get into the show. I didn't understand what the hell was going on SC>VI>SC>VI>few times I watched it. And the writing seemed real weak. SC>VI>SC>The problem with the show is that it is a continuing story line, so if SC>VI>SC>you jump in to the middle, you need to watch about 3 episodes to get u SC>VI>SC>to speed. And as far as weak goes, the writing is better than 3 of the SC>VI>SC>Star Trek series (Next Generation beats all the other shows hands down SC>VI>Hey I like DS 9 a lot! And the classic Star Trek series is CLASSIC! SC>I never said that I didn't like them, Only that the writing was, in my SC>opinion, weaker than B 5 Well since I have never really "gotten' B5 I have no comparison! SC>VI>OK, how about this for a deal? Are they starting from Episode one of SC>VI>B5 on TNT? If you tell me in advance when B5 is being shown on B5 and SC>VI>IF I can fit it into my schedule I will watch the first 2 or 3 episodes SC>VI>and see if I can "get it". The problem for me may very well be the SC>VI>continuing story line of the show. SC>They are starting with a new movie, In the Begining, which explains how SC>we made contact with the other races and how the Babylon % station came SC>about.. It will be followed by The Gathering, which was the series pilot SC>movie. Then they will begin the episodes in order from #1. Sounds like a possibility. SC>VI>Notice the provisio here--it has to fit into my schedule, which can be SC>VI>tough! :) SC>It is going to be on 5 days a week, which will be hard to fit into my SC>schedule also, that is why I will be taping them, to watch at my SC>leasure. If you like the first few episodes, don't worry about missing SC>any, because I can always loan them to you so you can watch them when SC>YOU want to. SC>--- Now that can be a bother! I try to tape "People's Court" every day and frequently screw up the settings either with the TV, the VCR or the cable! Plus I don't think I can tape stuff on two different stations on the same day with my current VCR/Cable set up. But do give me the specifics, what time and what channel. Date: Saturday, December 6, 1997 10:27pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Mick Msg#: 742821 To: Vida Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #742791, Reply to #742779, Reply to #742775, R*) (1 reply) VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>DS 9, most definitely. VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>I most confess, however, I hardly watch Voyager at all. I VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>little the first season but it seemed to me that the writi VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>lame. However, I have heard rumors that one of the charac VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>Voyager..the borg, specifially, may be revealed to be a le VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>that happens, they may get me to watch again! VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>A lesbian? 7 of 9? ya gotta be kidding!!! VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>That's the rumor I heard. Why do you say I gotta be kidding? VI>MI>VI>MI>Because the character seems to have been created as a romantic inte VI>MI>VI>MI>for Harry Kim! It is highly unlikely that they will abandon that st VI>MI>VI>MI>line and pursue a totally different one VI>MI>VI>Well sometimes maybe they should! :) VI>MI>VI>Only the person I would nominate as 'most likely to be a lesbian" is VI>MI>VI>Kera Niorese on DS 9. Boy does it drive me crazy that they made that VI>MI>VI>character 'straight'! VI>MI>Why does it bother you that she is straight? And she IS straight!!! VI>It drives me nuts because the actress that plays her absoultely sends VI>my "gaydar" into overdrive. VI>I think it was a cowardly decision that the writers took in not making VI>Kira a lesbian. The character is such a butch anyway, for crying out VI>loud! Hmm, I dont know if I see her as a butch. Perhaps it would have gotten in the way of her religious experiences if they made her lesbian. Date: Sunday, December 7, 1997 5:09am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 742826 To: Mick Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #742821, Reply to #742791, Reply to #742779, R*) (1 reply) Now that's making a major league assumption! Why would Bayjorian religion be so silly as to be adverse to lesbian sex? And take it from someone who knows, Kira is a definite butch! :) Date: Sunday, December 7, 1997 3:23pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Mick Msg#: 742835 To: Vida Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #742826, Reply to #742821, Reply to #742791, R*) (2 replies) VI>Now that's making a major league assumption! Why would Bayjorian VI>religion be so silly as to be adverse to lesbian sex? And take it from VI>someone who knows, Kira is a definite butch! :) MVI>Now that's making a major league assumption! Why would Bayjorian MI>VI>religion be so silly as to be adverse to lesbian sex? And take it from MI>VI>someone who knows, Kira is a definite butch! :) MI>MThat is an prejudice of the monotheistic religions on earth, but I say VI>no reason why it should be true of nonearth religions. VI>BTW--it is not exactly accurate to say that the Jewish religion is VI>averse lesbianism. There is a strong element to traditional Judaism VI>that is adverse to male homosexuality. But lesbianism was more or less VI>ignored--it was deemed irrelevant really. How do you figure that??? Date: Monday, December 8, 1997 9:36pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 742876 To: Mick Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #742865, Reply to #742856, Reply to #742835, R*) (1 reply) MI>VI>That is an prejudice of the monotheistic religions on earth, but I say MI>VI>no reason why it should be true of nonearth religions. MI>VI>BTW--it is not exactly accurate to say that the Jewish religion is MI>VI>averse lesbianism. There is a strong element to traditional Judaism MI>VI>that is adverse to male homosexuality. But lesbianism was more or less MI>VI>ignored--it was deemed irrelevant really. MI>How do you figure that??? I am giving you my understanding of the Jewish religion. I'm Jewish btw. Date: Tuesday, December 9, 1997 12:41pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Mick Msg#: 742892 To: Vida Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #742876, Reply to #742865, Reply to #742856, R*) (2 replies) VI>MI>VI>That is an prejudice of the monotheistic religions on earth, but I say VI>MI>VI>no reason why it should be true of nonearth religions. VI>MI>VI>BTW--it is not exactly accurate to say that the Jewish religion is VI>MI>VI>averse lesbianism. There is a strong element to traditional Judaism VI>MI>VI>that is adverse to male homosexuality. But lesbianism was more or les VI>MI>VI>ignored--it was deemed irrelevant really. VI>MI>How do you figure that??? VI>I am giving you my understanding of the Jewish religion. I'm Jewish VI>btw. I disagree. In my understanding any form of Homosexuality is considered abhorrent. Date: Wednesday, December 10, 1997 5:19pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve C Msg#: 742910 To: Vida Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #742810, Reply to #742799, Reply to #742774, R*) (1 reply) VI>SC>I never said that I didn't like them, Only that the writing was, in my VI>SC>opinion, weaker than B 5 VI>Well since I have never really "gotten' B5 I have no comparison! Thats understandable ;) VI>SC>VI>OK, how about this for a deal? Are they starting from Episode one of VI>SC>VI>B5 on TNT? If you tell me in advance when B5 is being shown on B5 and VI>SC>VI>IF I can fit it into my schedule I will watch the first 2 or 3 episode VI>SC>VI>and see if I can "get it". The problem for me may very well be the VI>SC>VI>continuing story line of the show. VI>SC>They are starting with a new movie, In the Begining, which explains how VI>SC>we made contact with the other races and how the Babylon % station came VI>SC>about.. It will be followed by The Gathering, which was the series pilot VI>SC>movie. Then they will begin the episodes in order from #1. VI>Sounds like a possibility. VI>SC>VI>Notice the provisio here--it has to fit into my schedule, which can be VI>SC>VI>tough! :) VI>SC>It is going to be on 5 days a week, which will be hard to fit into my VI>SC>schedule also, that is why I will be taping them, to watch at my VI>SC>leasure. If you like the first few episodes, don't worry about missing VI>SC>any, because I can always loan them to you so you can watch them when VI>SC>YOU want to. VI>SC>--- VI>Now that can be a bother! VI>I try to tape "People's Court" every day and frequently screw up the VI>settings either with the TV, the VCR or the cable! VI> Plus I don't think I can tape stuff on two different stations on the VI>same day with my current VCR/Cable set up. VI>But do give me the specifics, what time and what channel. I'll have to double check those and get back to you. * OLX 2.1 TD * Took an hour to bury the cat. Silly thing kept moving. Date: Wednesday, December 10, 1997 8:27pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Kkid Msg#: 742922 To: Mick Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #742892, Reply to #742876, Reply to #742865, R*) (1 reply) MI>VI>MI>How do you figure that??? MI>VI>I am giving you my understanding of the Jewish religion. I'm Jewish MI>VI>btw. MI>I disagree. In my understanding any form of Homosexuality is considered MI>abhorrent. Vida is correct, Mick, at least according to the Orthodox Jewish religion. Sexual intercourse amongst males is considered a major sin. That is not true regarding two women. Date: Thursday, December 11, 1997 3:52am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 742925 To: Mick Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #742892, Reply to #742876, Reply to #742865, R*) (1 reply) MI>VI>MI>VI>That is an prejudice of the monotheistic religions on earth, but I MI>VI>MI>VI>no reason why it should be true of nonearth religions. MI>VI>MI>VI>BTW--it is not exactly accurate to say that the Jewish religion is MI>VI>MI>VI>averse lesbianism. There is a strong element to traditional Judais MI>VI>MI>VI>that is adverse to male homosexuality. But lesbianism was more or MI>VI>MI>VI>ignored--it was deemed irrelevant really. MI>VI>MI>How do you figure that??? MI>VI>I am giving you my understanding of the Jewish religion. I'm Jewish MI>VI>btw. MI>I disagree. In my understanding any form of Homosexuality is considered MI>abhorrent. If you want to continue discussing this matter, why don't you post a message on /Theology, ok? We are really moving out of the realm of the /Science Fiction sig at this point. Date: Thursday, December 11, 1997 3:53am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 742926 To: Steve C Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #742910, Reply to #742810, Reply to #742799, R*) SC>VI>SC>I never said that I didn't like them, Only that the writing was, in my SC>VI>SC>opinion, weaker than B 5 SC>VI>Well since I have never really "gotten' B5 I have no comparison! SC>Thats understandable ;) SC>VI>SC>VI>OK, how about this for a deal? Are they starting from Episode one SC>VI>SC>VI>B5 on TNT? If you tell me in advance when B5 is being shown on B5 a SC>VI>SC>VI>IF I can fit it into my schedule I will watch the first 2 or 3 epis SC>VI>SC>VI>and see if I can "get it". The problem for me may very well be t SC>VI>SC>VI>continuing story line of the show. SC>VI>SC>They are starting with a new movie, In the Begining, which explains ho SC>VI>SC>we made contact with the other races and how the Babylon % station cam SC>VI>SC>about.. It will be followed by The Gathering, which was the series pil SC>VI>SC>movie. Then they will begin the episodes in order from #1. SC>VI>Sounds like a possibility. SC>VI>SC>VI>Notice the provisio here--it has to fit into my schedule, which SC>can be VI>SC>VI>tough! :) SC>VI>SC>It is going to be on 5 days a week, which will be hard to fit into my SC>VI>SC>schedule also, that is why I will be taping them, to watch at my SC>VI>SC>leasure. If you like the first few episodes, don't worry about missing SC>VI>SC>any, because I can always loan them to you so you can watch them when SC>VI>SC>YOU want to. SC>VI>SC>--- SC>VI>Now that can be a bother! SC>VI>I try to tape "People's Court" every day and frequently screw up the SC>VI>settings either with the TV, the VCR or the cable! SC>VI> Plus I don't think I can tape stuff on two different stations on the SC>VI>same day with my current VCR/Cable set up. SC>VI>But do give me the specifics, what time and what channel. SC>I'll have to double check those and get back to you. SC> * OLX 2.1 TD * Took an hour to bury the cat. Silly thing kept moving. Ok, thanks! :) Date: Thursday, December 11, 1997 1:34pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 742938 To: Mick Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #742835, Reply to #742826, Reply to #742821, R*) (1 reply) MI>VI>Now that's making a major league assumption! Why would Bayjorian MI>VI>religion be so silly as to be adverse to lesbian sex? And take it from MI>VI>someone who knows, Kira is a definite butch! :) MI>MMI>VI>MI>How do you figure that??? KK>MI>VI>I am giving you my understanding of the Jewish religion. I'm Jewish KK>MI>VI>btw. KK>MI>I disagree. In my understanding any form of Homosexuality is considered KK>MI>abhorrent. KK>Vida is correct, Mick, at least according to the Orthodox Jewish KK>religion. Sexual intercourse amongst males is considered a major sin. KK>That is not true regarding two women. Maybe it is not stated openly in the Bible, but the ommentaries equate lesbianism to male homosexuality Date: Thursday, December 11, 1997 8:30pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Mick Msg#: 742962 To: Vida Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #742925, Reply to #742892, Reply to #742876, R*) VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>That is an prejudice of the monotheistic religions on earth, but VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>no reason why it should be true of nonearth religions. VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>BTW--it is not exactly accurate to say that the Jewish religion VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>averse lesbianism. There is a strong element to traditional Jud VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>that is adverse to male homosexuality. But lesbianism was more VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>ignored--it was deemed irrelevant really. VI>MI>VI>MI>How do you figure that??? VI>MI>VI>I am giving you my understanding of the Jewish religion. I'm Jewish VI>MI>VI>btw. VI>MI>I disagree. In my understanding any form of Homosexuality is considered VI>MI>abhorrent. VI>If you want to continue discussing this matter, why don't you post a VI>message on /Theology, ok? We are really moving out of the realm of the VI>/Science Fiction sig at this point. I'll try. Date: Thursday, December 11, 1997 8:31pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Mick Msg#: 742963 To: Steve Flur Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #742938, Reply to #742835, Reply to #742826, R*) (1 reply) SF>MI>VI>Now that's making a major league assumption! Why would Bayjorian SF>MI>VI>religion be so silly as to be adverse to lesbian sex? And take it fro SF>MI>VI>someone who knows, Kira is a definite butch! :) SF>MI>MThat is one broad "assumption"! Well, name me one real religion that has no problem with homosexuality Date: Friday, December 12, 1997 9:18am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 742977 To: Mick Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #742961, Reply to #742922, Reply to #742892, R*) (1 reply) MI>KK>MI>VI>MI>How do you figure that??? MI>KK>MI>VI>I am giving you my understanding of the Jewish religion. I'm Jewis MI>KK>MI>VI>btw. MI>KK>MI>I disagree. In my understanding any form of Homosexuality is considere MI>KK>MI>abhorrent. MI>KK>Vida is correct, Mick, at least according to the Orthodox Jewish MI>KK>religion. Sexual intercourse amongst males is considered a major sin. MI>KK>That is not true regarding two women. MI>Maybe it is not stated openly in the Bible, but the ommentaries equate MI>lesbianism to male homosexuality Could you be more specific? Date: Friday, December 12, 1997 9:20am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 742978 To: Mick Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #742963, Reply to #742938, Reply to #742835, R*) (1 reply) MI>SF>MI>VI>Now that's making a major league assumption! Why would Bayjorian MI>SF>MI>VI>religion be so silly as to be adverse to lesbian sex? And take it MI>SF>MI>VI>someone who knows, Kira is a definite butch! :) MI>SF>MI>MSF>That is one broad "assumption"! MI>Well, name me one real religion that has no problem with homosexuality First I will need your definition of "real" religions, which you could post in /Theology. Date: Sunday, December 14, 1997 1:47am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Mick Msg#: 742994 To: Steve Flur Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #742977, Reply to #742961, Reply to #742922, R*) (3 replies) SF>MI>KK>MI>VI>MI>How do you figure that??? SF>MI>KK>MI>VI>I am giving you my understanding of the Jewish religion. I'm Je SF>MI>KK>MI>VI>btw. SF>MI>KK>MI>I disagree. In my understanding any form of Homosexuality is consid SF>MI>KK>MI>abhorrent. SF>MI>KK>Vida is correct, Mick, at least according to the Orthodox Jewish SF>MI>KK>religion. Sexual intercourse amongst males is considered a major sin. SF>MI>KK>That is not true regarding two women. SF>MI>Maybe it is not stated openly in the Bible, but the ommentaries equate SF>MI>lesbianism to male homosexuality SF>Could you be more specific? It would definitely be illogical not to equate male and femake homosexuality as both are unproductive unions and there fore would be considered sinful. Date: Sunday, December 14, 1997 1:48am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Mick Msg#: 742995 To: Steve Flur Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #742978, Reply to #742963, Reply to #742938, R*) (2 replies) SF>MI>SF>MI>VI>Now that's making a major league assumption! Why would Bayjoria SF>MI>SF>MI>VI>religion be so silly as to be adverse to lesbian sex? And take SF>MI>SF>MI>VI>someone who knows, Kira is a definite butch! :) SF>MI>SF>MI>MMI>SF>That is one broad "assumption"! SF>MI>Well, name me one real religion that has no problem with homosexuality SF>First I will need your definition of "real" religions, which you could SF>post in /Theology. Anything other than paganism. Date: Sunday, December 14, 1997 5:43am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 742999 To: Mick Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #742994, Reply to #742977, Reply to #742961, R*) (1 reply) MI>SF>MI>KK>MI>VI>MI>How do you figure that??? MI>SF>MI>KK>MI>VI>I am giving you my understanding of the Jewish religion. I'm MI>SF>MI>KK>MI>VI>btw. MI>SF>MI>KK>MI>I disagree. In my understanding any form of Homosexuality is con MI>SF>MI>KK>MI>abhorrent. MI>SF>MI>KK>Vida is correct, Mick, at least according to the Orthodox Jewish MI>SF>MI>KK>religion. Sexual intercourse amongst males is considered a major si MI>SF>MI>KK>That is not true regarding two women. MI>SF>MI>Maybe it is not stated openly in the Bible, but the ommentaries equate MI>SF>MI>lesbianism to male homosexuality MI>SF>Could you be more specific? MI>It would definitely be illogical not to equate male and femake MI>homosexuality as both are unproductive unions and there fore would be MI>considered sinful. Are you going to tell me that you have never had heterosexual sex and used birth control? Or that you have never had any form of oral sex? By what logic is it ok for a woman to give a man a blow job but immoral for a man to give a man a blow job???? Date: Sunday, December 14, 1997 5:45am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 743000 To: Mick Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #742995, Reply to #742978, Reply to #742963, R*) (1 reply) MI>SF>MI>SF>MI>VI>Now that's making a major league assumption! Why would Bayjo MI>SF>MI>SF>MI>VI>religion be so silly as to be adverse to lesbian sex? And ta MI>SF>MI>SF>MI>VI>someone who knows, Kira is a definite butch! :) MI>SF>MI>SF>MI>MSF>MI>SF>That is one broad "assumption"! MI>SF>MI>Well, name me one real religion that has no problem with homosexuality MI>SF>First I will need your definition of "real" religions, which you could MI>SF>post in /Theology. MI>Anything other than paganism. If that's your definition then my understanding is that Buddhism and Hinduism don't have any particular feelings pro or con re: homosexuality. And what exactly about paganism makes you say that it is unreal? It was practiced by the majority of Christians for thousands and thousands of years and was only wipped out by force during the Crusades. Date: Sunday, December 14, 1997 10:07pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Mick Msg#: 743006 To: Vida Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #742999, Reply to #742994, Reply to #742977, R*) (1 reply) VI>MI>SF>MI>KK>MI>VI>MI>How do you figure that??? VI>MI>SF>MI>KK>MI>VI>I am giving you my understanding of the Jewish religion. VI>MI>SF>MI>KK>MI>VI>btw. VI>MI>SF>MI>KK>MI>I disagree. In my understanding any form of Homosexuality is VI>MI>SF>MI>KK>MI>abhorrent. VI>MI>SF>MI>KK>Vida is correct, Mick, at least according to the Orthodox Jewish VI>MI>SF>MI>KK>religion. Sexual intercourse amongst males is considered a major VI>MI>SF>MI>KK>That is not true regarding two women. VI>MI>SF>MI>Maybe it is not stated openly in the Bible, but the ommentaries equ VI>MI>SF>MI>lesbianism to male homosexuality VI>MI>SF>Could you be more specific? VI>MI>It would definitely be illogical not to equate male and femake VI>MI>homosexuality as both are unproductive unions and there fore would be VI>MI>considered sinful. VI>Are you going to tell me that you have never had heterosexual sex and VI>used birth control? Or that you have never had any form of oral sex? VI>By what logic is it ok for a woman to give a man a blow job but immoral VI>for a man to give a man a blow job???? First of all, I didnt say that its ok, i think its wrong also. In response to your first question, I am a virgin. Date: Sunday, December 14, 1997 10:08pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Mick Msg#: 743007 To: Vida Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743000, Reply to #742995, Reply to #742978, R*) (1 reply) VI>MI>SF>MI>SF>MI>VI>Now that's making a major league assumption! Why would Ba VI>MI>SF>MI>SF>MI>VI>religion be so silly as to be adverse to lesbian sex? And VI>MI>SF>MI>SF>MI>VI>someone who knows, Kira is a definite butch! :) VI>MI>SF>MI>SF>MI>MMI>SF>MI>SF>That is one broad "assumption"! VI>MI>SF>MI>Well, name me one real religion that has no problem with homosexual VI>MI>SF>First I will need your definition of "real" religions, which you could VI>MI>SF>post in /Theology. VI>MI>Anything other than paganism. VI>If that's your definition then my understanding is that Buddhism and VI>Hinduism don't have any particular feelings pro or con re: VI>homosexuality. And what exactly about paganism makes you say that it is VI>unreal? It was practiced by the majority of Christians for thousands VI>and thousands of years and was only wipped out by force during the VI>Crusades. How do you know that Buddhism and Hinduism have nothing against Homosexuality? Date: Monday, December 15, 1997 6:52am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 743014 To: Mick Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743006, Reply to #742999, Reply to #742994, R*) (1 reply) MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>KK>MI>VI>MI>How do you figure that??? MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>KK>MI>VI>I am giving you my understanding of the Jewish religion MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>KK>MI>VI>btw. MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>KK>MI>I disagree. In my understanding any form of Homosexuality MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>KK>MI>abhorrent. MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>KK>Vida is correct, Mick, at least according to the Orthodox Jew MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>KK>religion. Sexual intercourse amongst males is considered a ma MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>KK>That is not true regarding two women. MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>Maybe it is not stated openly in the Bible, but the ommentaries MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>lesbianism to male homosexuality MI>VI>MI>SF>Could you be more specific? MI>VI>MI>It would definitely be illogical not to equate male and femake MI>VI>MI>homosexuality as both are unproductive unions and there fore would be MI>VI>MI>considered sinful. MI>VI>Are you going to tell me that you have never had heterosexual sex and MI>VI>used birth control? Or that you have never had any form of oral sex? MI>VI>By what logic is it ok for a woman to give a man a blow job but immoral MI>VI>for a man to give a man a blow job???? MI>First of all, I didnt say that its ok, i think its wrong also. In MI>response to your first question, I am a virgin. Well, at least you're consistent. Most people are not. How old are you, anyway? Date: Monday, December 15, 1997 6:53am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 743015 To: Mick Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743007, Reply to #743000, Reply to #742995, R*) (1 reply) MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>SF>MI>VI>Now that's making a major league assumption! Why would MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>SF>MI>VI>religion be so silly as to be adverse to lesbian sex? MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>SF>MI>VI>someone who knows, Kira is a definite butch! :) MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>SF>MI>MVI>MI>SF>MI>SF>That is one broad "assumption"! MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>Well, name me one real religion that has no problem with homosex MI>VI>MI>SF>First I will need your definition of "real" religions, which you co MI>VI>MI>SF>post in /Theology. MI>VI>MI>Anything other than paganism. MI>VI>If that's your definition then my understanding is that Buddhism and MI>VI>Hinduism don't have any particular feelings pro or con re: MI>VI>homosexuality. And what exactly about paganism makes you say that it is MI>VI>unreal? It was practiced by the majority of Christians for thousands MI>VI>and thousands of years and was only wipped out by force during the MI>VI>Crusades. MI>How do you know that Buddhism and Hinduism have nothing against MI>Homosexuality? From the fair amount of reading that I have read. How do you know that they do have anything against homosexuality? Or do you just assume? Date: Monday, December 15, 1997 3:02pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 743020 To: Mick Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #742994, Reply to #742977, Reply to #742961, R*) (1 reply) MI>SF>MI>KK>MI>VI>MI>How do you figure that??? MI>SF>MI>KK>MI>VI>I am giving you my understanding of the Jewish religion. I'm MI>SF>MI>KK>MI>VI>btw. MI>SF>MI>KK>MI>I disagree. In my understanding any form of Homosexuality is con MI>SF>MI>KK>MI>abhorrent. MI>SF>MI>KK>Vida is correct, Mick, at least according to the Orthodox Jewish MI>SF>MI>KK>religion. Sexual intercourse amongst males is considered a major si MI>SF>MI>KK>That is not true regarding two women. MI>SF>MI>Maybe it is not stated openly in the Bible, but the ommentaries equate MI>SF>MI>lesbianism to male homosexuality MI>SF>Could you be more specific? MI>It would definitely be illogical not to equate male and femake MI>homosexuality as both are unproductive unions and there fore would be MI>considered sinful. Which specific commentators are you quoting? Are childless "straight" unions also sinful? Date: Monday, December 15, 1997 3:03pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 743021 To: Mick Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #742995, Reply to #742978, Reply to #742963, R*) MI>SF>MI>SF>MI>VI>Now that's making a major league assumption! Why would Bayjo MI>SF>MI>SF>MI>VI>religion be so silly as to be adverse to lesbian sex? And ta MI>SF>MI>SF>MI>VI>someone who knows, Kira is a definite butch! :) MI>SF>MI>SF>MI>MSF>MI>SF>That is one broad "assumption"! MI>SF>MI>Well, name me one real religion that has no problem with homosexuality MI>SF>First I will need your definition of "real" religions, which you could MI>SF>post in /Theology. MI>Anything other than paganism. Your definition needs clarification. Date: Tuesday, December 16, 1997 11:51pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Mick Msg#: 743039 To: Vida Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743014, Reply to #743006, Reply to #742999, R*) (1 reply) VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>KK>MI>VI>MI>How do you figure that??? VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>KK>MI>VI>I am giving you my understanding of the Jewish relig VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>KK>MI>VI>btw. VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>KK>MI>I disagree. In my understanding any form of Homosexuali VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>KK>MI>abhorrent. VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>KK>Vida is correct, Mick, at least according to the Orthodox VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>KK>religion. Sexual intercourse amongst males is considered a VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>KK>That is not true regarding two women. VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>Maybe it is not stated openly in the Bible, but the ommentari VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>lesbianism to male homosexuality VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>Could you be more specific? VI>MI>VI>MI>It would definitely be illogical not to equate male and femake VI>MI>VI>MI>homosexuality as both are unproductive unions and there fore would VI>MI>VI>MI>considered sinful. VI>MI>VI>Are you going to tell me that you have never had heterosexual sex and VI>MI>VI>used birth control? Or that you have never had any form of oral sex? VI>MI>VI>By what logic is it ok for a woman to give a man a blow job but immora VI>MI>VI>for a man to give a man a blow job???? VI>MI>First of all, I didnt say that its ok, i think its wrong also. In VI>MI>response to your first question, I am a virgin. VI>Well, at least you're consistent. Most people are not. VI>How old are you, anyway? 20 Date: Tuesday, December 16, 1997 11:51pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Mick Msg#: 743040 To: Vida Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743015, Reply to #743007, Reply to #743000, R*) (2 replies) VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>SF>MI>VI>Now that's making a major league assumption! Why wo VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>SF>MI>VI>religion be so silly as to be adverse to lesbian sex VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>SF>MI>VI>someone who knows, Kira is a definite butch! :) VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>SF>MI>MMI>VI>MI>SF>MI>SF>That is one broad "assumption"! VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>Well, name me one real religion that has no problem with homo VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>First I will need your definition of "real" religions, which you VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>post in /Theology. VI>MI>VI>MI>Anything other than paganism. VI>MI>VI>If that's your definition then my understanding is that Buddhism and VI>MI>VI>Hinduism don't have any particular feelings pro or con re: VI>MI>VI>homosexuality. And what exactly about paganism makes you say that it VI>MI>VI>unreal? It was practiced by the majority of Christians for thousands VI>MI>VI>and thousands of years and was only wipped out by force during the VI>MI>VI>Crusades. VI>MI>How do you know that Buddhism and Hinduism have nothing against VI>MI>Homosexuality? VI>From the fair amount of reading that I have read. How do you know that VI>they do have anything against homosexuality? Or do you just assume? It is illogical for a religion to support that sort of lifestyle Date: Tuesday, December 16, 1997 11:52pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Mick Msg#: 743041 To: Steve Flur Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743020, Reply to #742994, Reply to #742977, R*) (1 reply) SF>MI>SF>MI>KK>MI>VI>MI>How do you figure that??? SF>MI>SF>MI>KK>MI>VI>I am giving you my understanding of the Jewish religion. SF>MI>SF>MI>KK>MI>VI>btw. SF>MI>SF>MI>KK>MI>I disagree. In my understanding any form of Homosexuality is SF>MI>SF>MI>KK>MI>abhorrent. SF>MI>SF>MI>KK>Vida is correct, Mick, at least according to the Orthodox Jewish SF>MI>SF>MI>KK>religion. Sexual intercourse amongst males is considered a major SF>MI>SF>MI>KK>That is not true regarding two women. SF>MI>SF>MI>Maybe it is not stated openly in the Bible, but the ommentaries equ SF>MI>SF>MI>lesbianism to male homosexuality SF>MI>SF>Could you be more specific? SF>MI>It would definitely be illogical not to equate male and femake SF>MI>homosexuality as both are unproductive unions and there fore would be SF>MI>considered sinful. SF>Which specific commentators are you quoting? Are childless "straight" SF>unions also sinful? No,if they cant help it Date: Wednesday, December 17, 1997 6:40am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 743047 To: Mick Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743039, Reply to #743014, Reply to #743006, R*) (2 replies) MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>KK>MI>VI>MI>How do you figure that??? MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>KK>MI>VI>I am giving you my understanding of the Jewish re MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>KK>MI>VI>btw. MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>KK>MI>I disagree. In my understanding any form of Homosexu MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>KK>MI>abhorrent. MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>KK>Vida is correct, Mick, at least according to the Orthod MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>KK>religion. Sexual intercourse amongst males is considere MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>KK>That is not true regarding two women. MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>Maybe it is not stated openly in the Bible, but the omment MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>lesbianism to male homosexuality MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>Could you be more specific? MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>It would definitely be illogical not to equate male and femake MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>homosexuality as both are unproductive unions and there fore wou MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>considered sinful. MI>VI>MI>VI>Are you going to tell me that you have never had heterosexual sex a MI>VI>MI>VI>used birth control? Or that you have never had any form of oral se MI>VI>MI>VI>By what logic is it ok for a woman to give a man a blow job but imm MI>VI>MI>VI>for a man to give a man a blow job???? MI>VI>MI>First of all, I didnt say that its ok, i think its wrong also. In MI>VI>MI>response to your first question, I am a virgin. MI>VI>Well, at least you're consistent. Most people are not. MI>VI>How old are you, anyway? MI>20 That's pretty young. Do you really think that you are only going to have sex for the purposes of procreation for the rest of your life? Most people have sex for fun, for the pure physical joy of the act. Date: Wednesday, December 17, 1997 6:46am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 743048 To: Mick Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743040, Reply to #743015, Reply to #743007, R*) (1 reply) MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>SF>MI>VI>Now that's making a major league assumption! Why MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>SF>MI>VI>religion be so silly as to be adverse to lesbian MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>SF>MI>VI>someone who knows, Kira is a definite butch! :) MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>SF>MI>MVI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>SF>That is one broad "assumption"! MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>Well, name me one real religion that has no problem with h MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>First I will need your definition of "real" religions, which MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>post in /Theology. MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>Anything other than paganism. MI>VI>MI>VI>If that's your definition then my understanding is that Buddhism an MI>VI>MI>VI>Hinduism don't have any particular feelings pro or con re: MI>VI>MI>VI>homosexuality. And what exactly about paganism makes you say that MI>VI>MI>VI>unreal? It was practiced by the majority of Christians for thousan MI>VI>MI>VI>and thousands of years and was only wipped out by force during the MI>VI>MI>VI>Crusades. MI>VI>MI>How do you know that Buddhism and Hinduism have nothing against MI>VI>MI>Homosexuality? MI>VI>From the fair amount of reading that I have read. How do you know that MI>VI>they do have anything against homosexuality? Or do you just assume? MI>It is illogical for a religion to support that sort of lifestyle And what is inherently wrong with that sort of lifesytle? I lived in a committed monogamous relationship with another woman for eight years. And my second "marriage" lasted for five years. Steve Flur has been in a committed monogamous relationship with Stanley for at least ten years, if my memory serves me correctly. Date: Wednesday, December 17, 1997 9:01am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 743052 To: Mick Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743040, Reply to #743015, Reply to #743007, R*) (1 reply) MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>SF>MI>VI>Now that's making a major league assumption! Why MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>SF>MI>VI>religion be so silly as to be adverse to lesbian MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>SF>MI>VI>someone who knows, Kira is a definite butch! :) MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>SF>MI>MVI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>SF>That is one broad "assumption"! MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>Well, name me one real religion that has no problem with h MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>First I will need your definition of "real" religions, which MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>post in /Theology. MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>Anything other than paganism. MI>VI>MI>VI>If that's your definition then my understanding is that Buddhism an MI>VI>MI>VI>Hinduism don't have any particular feelings pro or con re: MI>VI>MI>VI>homosexuality. And what exactly about paganism makes you say that MI>VI>MI>VI>unreal? It was practiced by the majority of Christians for thousan MI>VI>MI>VI>and thousands of years and was only wipped out by force during the MI>VI>MI>VI>Crusades. MI>VI>MI>How do you know that Buddhism and Hinduism have nothing against MI>VI>MI>Homosexuality? MI>VI>From the fair amount of reading that I have read. How do you know that MI>VI>they do have anything against homosexuality? Or do you just assume? MI>It is illogical for a religion to support that sort of lifestyle First, being lesbian and gay is as much a "lifestyle" as being straight, so when did you choose yours? Second, isn't practicing any given religion a chosen "lifestyle"? Date: Wednesday, December 17, 1997 9:03am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 743053 To: Mick Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743041, Reply to #743020, Reply to #742994, R*) MI>SF>MI>SF>MI>KK>MI>VI>MI>How do you figure that??? MI>SF>MI>SF>MI>KK>MI>VI>I am giving you my understanding of the Jewish religion MI>SF>MI>SF>MI>KK>MI>VI>btw. MI>SF>MI>SF>MI>KK>MI>I disagree. In my understanding any form of Homosexuality MI>SF>MI>SF>MI>KK>MI>abhorrent. MI>SF>MI>SF>MI>KK>Vida is correct, Mick, at least according to the Orthodox Jew MI>SF>MI>SF>MI>KK>religion. Sexual intercourse amongst males is considered a ma MI>SF>MI>SF>MI>KK>That is not true regarding two women. MI>SF>MI>SF>MI>Maybe it is not stated openly in the Bible, but the ommentaries MI>SF>MI>SF>MI>lesbianism to male homosexuality MI>SF>MI>SF>Could you be more specific? MI>SF>MI>It would definitely be illogical not to equate male and femake MI>SF>MI>homosexuality as both are unproductive unions and there fore would be MI>SF>MI>considered sinful. MI>SF>Which specific commentators are you quoting? Are childless "straight" MI>SF>unions also sinful? MI>No,if they cant help it Firstly, I am still waiting for your list of commentators. Secondly, do you consider any form of birthcontrol sinful? Thirdly, do you consider any sexual act that does result in pregnency sinful? Date: Wednesday, December 17, 1997 9:05am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 743054 To: Vida Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743048, Reply to #743040, Reply to #743015, R*) (1 reply) VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>SF>MI>VI>Now that's making a major league assumption! VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>SF>MI>VI>religion be so silly as to be adverse to lesbi VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>SF>MI>VI>someone who knows, Kira is a definite butch! VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>SF>MI>MMI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>SF>That is one broad "assumption"! VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>Well, name me one real religion that has no problem wit VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>First I will need your definition of "real" religions, whi VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>post in /Theology. VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>Anything other than paganism. VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>If that's your definition then my understanding is that Buddhism VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>Hinduism don't have any particular feelings pro or con re: VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>homosexuality. And what exactly about paganism makes you say th VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>unreal? It was practiced by the majority of Christians for thou VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>and thousands of years and was only wipped out by force during t VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>Crusades. VI>MI>VI>MI>How do you know that Buddhism and Hinduism have nothing against VI>MI>VI>MI>Homosexuality? VI>MI>VI>From the fair amount of reading that I have read. How do you know tha VI>MI>VI>they do have anything against homosexuality? Or do you just assume? VI>MI>It is illogical for a religion to support that sort of lifestyle VI>And what is inherently wrong with that sort of lifesytle? I lived in a VI>committed monogamous relationship with another woman for eight years. VI>And my second "marriage" lasted for five years. Steve Flur has been VI>in a committed monogamous relationship with Stanley for at least ten VI>years, if my memory serves me correctly. Actually it will be 16 years in April. Date: Wednesday, December 17, 1997 6:34pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 743064 To: Steve Flur Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743054, Reply to #743048, Reply to #743040, R*) (1 reply) SF>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>SF>MI>VI>Now that's making a major league assumption SF>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>SF>MI>VI>religion be so silly as to be adverse to le SF>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>SF>MI>VI>someone who knows, Kira is a definite butch SF>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>SF>MI>MVI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>SF>That is one broad "assumption"! SF>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>Well, name me one real religion that has no problem SF>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>First I will need your definition of "real" religions, SF>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>post in /Theology. SF>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>Anything other than paganism. SF>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>If that's your definition then my understanding is that Buddh SF>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>Hinduism don't have any particular feelings pro or con re: SF>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>homosexuality. And what exactly about paganism makes you say SF>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>unreal? It was practiced by the majority of Christians for t SF>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>and thousands of years and was only wipped out by force durin SF>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>Crusades. SF>VI>MI>VI>MI>How do you know that Buddhism and Hinduism have nothing against SF>VI>MI>VI>MI>Homosexuality? SF>VI>MI>VI>From the fair amount of reading that I have read. How do you know SF>VI>MI>VI>they do have anything against homosexuality? Or do you just assume SF>VI>MI>It is illogical for a religion to support that sort of lifestyle SF>VI>And what is inherently wrong with that sort of lifesytle? I lived in a SF>VI>committed monogamous relationship with another woman for eight years. SF>VI>And my second "marriage" lasted for five years. Steve Flur has been SF>VI>in a committed monogamous relationship with Stanley for at least ten SF>VI>years, if my memory serves me correctly. SF>Actually it will be 16 years in April. I stand corrected. Mazel tov! :) Date: Thursday, December 18, 1997 8:30am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 743080 To: Vida Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743064, Reply to #743054, Reply to #743048, R*) VI>SF>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>SF>MI>VI>Now that's making a major league assumpt VI>SF>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>SF>MI>VI>religion be so silly as to be adverse to VI>SF>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>SF>MI>VI>someone who knows, Kira is a definite bu VI>SF>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>SF>MI>MSF>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>SF>That is one broad "assumption"! VI>SF>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>Well, name me one real religion that has no probl VI>SF>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>First I will need your definition of "real" religion VI>SF>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>post in /Theology. VI>SF>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>Anything other than paganism. VI>SF>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>If that's your definition then my understanding is that Bu VI>SF>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>Hinduism don't have any particular feelings pro or con re: VI>SF>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>homosexuality. And what exactly about paganism makes you VI>SF>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>unreal? It was practiced by the majority of Christians fo VI>SF>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>and thousands of years and was only wipped out by force du VI>SF>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>Crusades. VI>SF>VI>MI>VI>MI>How do you know that Buddhism and Hinduism have nothing again VI>SF>VI>MI>VI>MI>Homosexuality? VI>SF>VI>MI>VI>From the fair amount of reading that I have read. How do you kn VI>SF>VI>MI>VI>they do have anything against homosexuality? Or do you just ass VI>SF>VI>MI>It is illogical for a religion to support that sort of lifestyle VI>SF>VI>And what is inherently wrong with that sort of lifesytle? I lived in VI>SF>VI>committed monogamous relationship with another woman for eight years. VI>SF>VI>And my second "marriage" lasted for five years. Steve Flur has been VI>SF>VI>in a committed monogamous relationship with Stanley for at least ten VI>SF>VI>years, if my memory serves me correctly. VI>SF>Actually it will be 16 years in April. VI>I stand corrected. Mazel tov! :) Thank you! Date: Thursday, December 18, 1997 11:48pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Mick Msg#: 743084 To: Vida Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743047, Reply to #743039, Reply to #743014, R*) (3 replies) VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>KK>MI>VI>MI>How do you figure that??? VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>KK>MI>VI>I am giving you my understanding of the Jewish VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>KK>MI>VI>btw. VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>KK>MI>I disagree. In my understanding any form of Homos VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>KK>MI>abhorrent. VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>KK>Vida is correct, Mick, at least according to the Ort VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>KK>religion. Sexual intercourse amongst males is consid VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>KK>That is not true regarding two women. VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>Maybe it is not stated openly in the Bible, but the omm VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>lesbianism to male homosexuality VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>Could you be more specific? VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>It would definitely be illogical not to equate male and femak VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>homosexuality as both are unproductive unions and there fore VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>considered sinful. VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>Are you going to tell me that you have never had heterosexual se VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>used birth control? Or that you have never had any form of oral VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>By what logic is it ok for a woman to give a man a blow job but VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>for a man to give a man a blow job???? VI>MI>VI>MI>First of all, I didnt say that its ok, i think its wrong also. In VI>MI>VI>MI>response to your first question, I am a virgin. VI>MI>VI>Well, at least you're consistent. Most people are not. VI>MI>VI>How old are you, anyway? VI>MI>20 VI>That's pretty young. VI> Do you really think that you are only going to have sex for the VI>purposes of procreation for the rest of your life? Most people have VI>sex for fun, for the pure physical joy of the act. There is NOTHING wrong with enjoying it. It is just that anal and oral are unreproductive int their very nature and therefore are religiosly forbidden Date: Friday, December 19, 1997 2:04am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 743088 To: Mick Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743084, Reply to #743047, Reply to #743039, R*) MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>KK>MI>VI>MI>How do you figure that??? MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>KK>MI>VI>I am giving you my understanding of the Jew MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>KK>MI>VI>btw. MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>KK>MI>I disagree. In my understanding any form of Ho MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>KK>MI>abhorrent. MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>KK>Vida is correct, Mick, at least according to the MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>KK>religion. Sexual intercourse amongst males is con MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>KK>That is not true regarding two women. MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>Maybe it is not stated openly in the Bible, but the MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>lesbianism to male homosexuality MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>Could you be more specific? MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>It would definitely be illogical not to equate male and fe MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>homosexuality as both are unproductive unions and there fo MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>considered sinful. MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>Are you going to tell me that you have never had heterosexual MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>used birth control? Or that you have never had any form of o MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>By what logic is it ok for a woman to give a man a blow job b MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>for a man to give a man a blow job???? MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>First of all, I didnt say that its ok, i think its wrong also. I MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>response to your first question, I am a virgin. MI>VI>MI>VI>Well, at least you're consistent. Most people are not. MI>VI>MI>VI>How old are you, anyway? MI>VI>MI>20 MI>VI>That's pretty young. MI>VI> Do you really think that you are only going to have sex for the MI>VI>purposes of procreation for the rest of your life? Most people have MI>VI>sex for fun, for the pure physical joy of the act. MI>There is NOTHING wrong with enjoying it. It is just that anal and oral MI>are unreproductive int their very nature and therefore are religiosly MI>forbidden So what are you going to do when your female partner reaches the age of menopause, once you get a feamle partner that is. Are you going to dump her for a younger woman? Or are you going to continue to have sex with her even though there is no possibility of repropuction from that coupling? Date: Friday, December 19, 1997 8:55am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 743092 To: Mick Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743084, Reply to #743047, Reply to #743039, R*) MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>KK>MI>VI>MI>How do you figure that??? MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>KK>MI>VI>I am giving you my understanding of the Jew MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>KK>MI>VI>btw. MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>KK>MI>I disagree. In my understanding any form of Ho MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>KK>MI>abhorrent. MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>KK>Vida is correct, Mick, at least according to the MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>KK>religion. Sexual intercourse amongst males is con MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>KK>That is not true regarding two women. MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>Maybe it is not stated openly in the Bible, but the MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>MI>lesbianism to male homosexuality MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>SF>Could you be more specific? MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>It would definitely be illogical not to equate male and fe MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>homosexuality as both are unproductive unions and there fo MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>considered sinful. MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>Are you going to tell me that you have never had heterosexual MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>used birth control? Or that you have never had any form of o MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>By what logic is it ok for a woman to give a man a blow job b MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>VI>for a man to give a man a blow job???? MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>First of all, I didnt say that its ok, i think its wrong also. I MI>VI>MI>VI>MI>response to your first question, I am a virgin. MI>VI>MI>VI>Well, at least you're consistent. Most people are not. MI>VI>MI>VI>How old are you, anyway? MI>VI>MI>20 MI>VI>That's pretty young. MI>VI> Do you really think that you are only going to have sex for the MI>VI>purposes of procreation for the rest of your life? Most people have MI>VI>sex for fun, for the pure physical joy of the act. MI>There is NOTHING wrong with enjoying it. It is just that anal and oral MI>are unreproductive int their very nature and therefore are religiosly MI>forbidden And this is wrtten where? Date: Friday, December 19, 1997 3:43pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve C Msg#: 743097 To: Mick Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743084, Reply to #743047, Reply to #743039, R*) MI>VI> Do you really think that you are only going to have sex for the MI>VI>purposes of procreation for the rest of your life? Most people have MI>VI>sex for fun, for the pure physical joy of the act. MI>There is NOTHING wrong with enjoying it. It is just that anal and oral MI>are unreproductive int their very nature and therefore are religiosly MI>forbidden Mick, do you realize that a woman is only fertile for a few days a month ? According to your way of thinking, sex with a woman the other 21+ days is also unproductive and thus religiously forbidden I don't know about you , but I could not accept being allowed to make love to my wife less than 7 days a month. * OLX 2.1 TD * What fools these morals be! Date: Wednesday, December 24, 1997 2:24pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Kkid Msg#: 743185 To: Mick Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #742994, Reply to #742977, Reply to #742961, R*) (1 reply) MI>SF>MI>Maybe it is not stated openly in the Bible, but the ommentaries equate MI>SF>MI>lesbianism to male homosexuality MI>SF>Could you be more specific? MI>It would definitely be illogical not to equate male and femake MI>homosexuality as both are unproductive unions and there fore would be MI>considered sinful. I would say it is quite logical not to equate them! When a male spills his seed it is considered as if a life in a sense is being killed. That does not happen when you have a woman having sex alone or with another woman. But logic has nothing to do with it. The prohibition is on males and not on females. The rabbis then put it on females as well. Date: Wednesday, December 24, 1997 2:26pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Kkid Msg#: 743186 To: Vida Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743047, Reply to #743039, Reply to #743014, R*) (1 reply) VI>MI>VI>MI>First of all, I didnt say that its ok, i think its wrong also. In VI>MI>VI>MI>response to your first question, I am a virgin. VI>MI>VI>Well, at least you're consistent. Most people are not. VI>MI>VI>How old are you, anyway? VI>MI>20 VI>That's pretty young. VI> Do you really think that you are only going to have sex for the VI>purposes of procreation for the rest of your life? Most people have VI>sex for fun, for the pure physical joy of the act. I did not realize that most people doing a thing makes that thing right :-) Date: Wednesday, December 24, 1997 2:28pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Kkid Msg#: 743187 To: Steve Flur Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743052, Reply to #743040, Reply to #743015, R*) (1 reply) SF>MI>It is illogical for a religion to support that sort of lifestyle SF>First, being lesbian and gay is as much a "lifestyle" as being straight, SF>so when did you choose yours? SF>Second, isn't practicing any given religion a chosen "lifestyle"? You mean we all one day woke up and decided that "today" was the all important day where we will decide whether or not to be straight???? Are you kidding? Date: Wednesday, December 24, 1997 2:35pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 743190 To: Kkid Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743187, Reply to #743052, Reply to #743040, R*) (1 reply) KK>SF>MI>It is illogical for a religion to support that sort of lifestyle KK>SF>First, being lesbian and gay is as much a "lifestyle" as being straight, KK>SF>so when did you choose yours? KK>SF>Second, isn't practicing any given religion a chosen "lifestyle"? KK>You mean we all one day woke up and decided that "today" was the all KK>important day where we will decide whether or not to be straight???? KK>Are you kidding? My point exactly! Just like you did not one day choose to be straight I did not wake up one morning and say..."today is my sexual orientation choice day and I choose gay". Date: Wednesday, December 24, 1997 4:34pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 743200 To: Kkid Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743186, Reply to #743047, Reply to #743039, R*) (1 reply) KK>VI>MI>VI>MI>First of all, I didnt say that its ok, i think its wrong also. I KK>VI>MI>VI>MI>response to your first question, I am a virgin. KK>VI>MI>VI>Well, at least you're consistent. Most people are not. KK>VI>MI>VI>How old are you, anyway? KK>VI>MI>20 KK>VI>That's pretty young. KK>VI> Do you really think that you are only going to have sex for the KK>VI>purposes of procreation for the rest of your life? Most people have KK>VI>sex for fun, for the pure physical joy of the act. KK>I did not realize that most people doing a thing makes that thing right KK>:-) It depends on the thing that is being done. :) Date: Thursday, December 25, 1997 10:37am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Kkid Msg#: 743207 To: Steve Flur Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743190, Reply to #743187, Reply to #743052, R*) (1 reply) SF>KK>You mean we all one day woke up and decided that "today" was the all SF>KK>important day where we will decide whether or not to be straight???? SF>KK>Are you kidding? SF>My point exactly! Just like you did not one day choose to be straight I SF>did not wake up one morning and say..."today is my sexual orientation SF>choice day and I choose gay". So what exactly is your point??? Date: Thursday, December 25, 1997 10:38am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Kkid Msg#: 743208 To: Vida Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743200, Reply to #743186, Reply to #743047, R*) (1 reply) VI>KK>VI> Do you really think that you are only going to have sex for the VI>KK>VI>purposes of procreation for the rest of your life? Most people have VI>KK>VI>sex for fun, for the pure physical joy of the act. VI>KK>I did not realize that most people doing a thing makes that thing right VI>KK>:-) VI>It depends on the thing that is being done. :) Not really. Seriously, it depends on whether or not you agree with the individuals who are doing it. Date: Thursday, December 25, 1997 9:07pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 743212 To: Kkid Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743208, Reply to #743200, Reply to #743186, R*) (1 reply) KK>VI>KK>VI> Do you really think that you are only going to have sex for the KK>VI>KK>VI>purposes of procreation for the rest of your life? Most people hav KK>VI>KK>VI>sex for fun, for the pure physical joy of the act. KK>VI>KK>I did not realize that most people doing a thing makes that thing righ KK>VI>KK>:-) KK>VI>It depends on the thing that is being done. :) KK>Not really. Seriously, it depends on whether or not you agree with the KK>individuals who are doing it. I don't think that I'm that shallow. I can disagree with a person and still think that their choices are morally good. Date: Friday, December 26, 1997 8:59am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 743220 To: Vida Re: B5 (1 reply) If you should so wish, TNT will be broadcasting 3 times a half hour show called Guide to Babylon 5. They are 12/26 at 11PM, and 12/28 at 11PM and 2AM. Date: Friday, December 26, 1997 9:03am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 743221 To: Kkid Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743207, Reply to #743190, Reply to #743187, R*) (1 reply) KK>SF>KK>You mean we all one day woke up and decided that "today" was the all KK>SF>KK>important day where we will decide whether or not to be straight???? KK>SF>KK>Are you kidding? KK>SF>My point exactly! Just like you did not one day choose to be straight I KK>SF>did not wake up one morning and say..."today is my sexual orientation KK>SF>choice day and I choose gay". KK>So what exactly is your point??? That sexual orientation, either straight, gay, or bi, is not a matter of choice nor a mere lifestyle. Date: Friday, December 26, 1997 9:46am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Kkid Msg#: 743224 To: Vida Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743212, Reply to #743208, Reply to #743200, R*) (1 reply) VI>KK>VI>KK>I did not realize that most people doing a thing makes that thing r VI>KK>VI>KK>:-) VI>KK>VI>It depends on the thing that is being done. :) VI>KK>Not really. Seriously, it depends on whether or not you agree with the VI>KK>individuals who are doing it. VI>I don't think that I'm that shallow. I can disagree with a person and VI>still think that their choices are morally good. It has nothing to do with being shallow. It is a matter of rationalization which is a natural mechanism. Everybody would like to be right. Date: Friday, December 26, 1997 9:47am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Kkid Msg#: 743225 To: Steve Flur Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743221, Reply to #743207, Reply to #743190, R*) (2 replies) SF>KK>SF>KK>You mean we all one day woke up and decided that "today" was the al SF>KK>SF>KK>important day where we will decide whether or not to be straight??? SF>KK>SF>KK>Are you kidding? SF>KK>SF>My point exactly! Just like you did not one day choose to be straight SF>KK>SF>did not wake up one morning and say..."today is my sexual orientation SF>KK>SF>choice day and I choose gay". SF>KK>So what exactly is your point??? SF>That sexual orientation, either straight, gay, or bi, is not a matter of SF>choice nor a mere lifestyle. That is your opinion obviously. Date: Friday, December 26, 1997 2:07pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 743230 To: Kkid Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743225, Reply to #743221, Reply to #743207, R*) (1 reply) KK>SF>KK>SF>KK>You mean we all one day woke up and decided that "today" was the KK>SF>KK>SF>KK>important day where we will decide whether or not to be straight KK>SF>KK>SF>KK>Are you kidding? KK>SF>KK>SF>My point exactly! Just like you did not one day choose to be straig KK>SF>KK>SF>did not wake up one morning and say..."today is my sexual orientati KK>SF>KK>SF>choice day and I choose gay". KK>SF>KK>So what exactly is your point??? KK>SF>That sexual orientation, either straight, gay, or bi, is not a matter of KK>SF>choice nor a mere lifestyle. KK>That is your opinion obviously. If you disagree, then tell me the circumstances when you chose your personal sexual orientation. Date: Saturday, December 27, 1997 8:13am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 743241 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #743220) (1 reply) SF>If you should so wish, TNT will be broadcasting 3 times a half hour show SF>called Guide to Babylon 5. They are 12/26 at 11PM, and 12/28 at 11PM and SF>2AM. I didn't get this message till the 27th. But I will try to set it up to tape the show on the 28th. I have to try to tape it because it is being shown past my bed time. :) Date: Saturday, December 27, 1997 8:16am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 743242 To: Kkid Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743224, Reply to #743212, Reply to #743208, R*) (1 reply) KK>VI>KK>VI>KK>I did not realize that most people doing a thing makes that thin KK>VI>KK>VI>KK>:-) KK>VI>KK>VI>It depends on the thing that is being done. :) KK>VI>KK>Not really. Seriously, it depends on whether or not you agree with the KK>VI>KK>individuals who are doing it. KK>VI>I don't think that I'm that shallow. I can disagree with a person and KK>VI>still think that their choices are morally good. KK>It has nothing to do with being shallow. It is a matter of KK>rationalization which is a natural mechanism. Everybody would like to be KK>right. I try very hard not to rationalize. I know I do things that are sometimes not right. For example, I don't rationalize the fact that I don't keep kosher. I know that I should. It's just a weakness on my part that I don't. Date: Saturday, December 27, 1997 8:18am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 743243 To: Kkid Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743225, Reply to #743221, Reply to #743207, R*) (1 reply) KK>SF>KK>SF>KK>You mean we all one day woke up and decided that "today" was the KK>SF>KK>SF>KK>important day where we will decide whether or not to be straight KK>SF>KK>SF>KK>Are you kidding? KK>SF>KK>SF>My point exactly! Just like you did not one day choose to be straig KK>SF>KK>SF>did not wake up one morning and say..."today is my sexual orientati KK>SF>KK>SF>choice day and I choose gay". KK>SF>KK>So what exactly is your point??? KK>SF>That sexual orientation, either straight, gay, or bi, is not a matter of KK>SF>choice nor a mere lifestyle. KK>That is your opinion obviously. By the way, I don't agree with Steve on this point. I think for ALL of us it is more or less choose how we act upon our sexual desires. Date: Saturday, December 27, 1997 8:20pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Kkid Msg#: 743253 To: Steve Flur Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743230, Reply to #743225, Reply to #743221, R*) (2 replies) SF>KK>SF>KK>SF>KK>You mean we all one day woke up and decided that "today" was SF>KK>SF>KK>SF>KK>important day where we will decide whether or not to be strai SF>KK>SF>KK>SF>KK>Are you kidding? SF>KK>SF>KK>SF>My point exactly! Just like you did not one day choose to be str SF>KK>SF>KK>SF>did not wake up one morning and say..."today is my sexual orient SF>KK>SF>KK>SF>choice day and I choose gay". SF>KK>SF>KK>So what exactly is your point??? SF>KK>SF>That sexual orientation, either straight, gay, or bi, is not a matter SF>KK>SF>choice nor a mere lifestyle. SF>KK>That is your opinion obviously. SF>If you disagree, then tell me the circumstances when you chose your SF>personal sexual orientation. My believing that homosexuality is a choice does not in any way mean that someone straight chose their sexual orientation. I did not choose my sexual orientation. If you are not straight then you chose yours! Date: Sunday, December 28, 1997 11:35am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 743255 To: Kkid Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743253, Reply to #743230, Reply to #743225, R*) (1 reply) KK>SF>KK>SF>KK>SF>KK>You mean we all one day woke up and decided that "today" w KK>SF>KK>SF>KK>SF>KK>important day where we will decide whether or not to be st KK>SF>KK>SF>KK>SF>KK>Are you kidding? KK>SF>KK>SF>KK>SF>My point exactly! Just like you did not one day choose to be KK>SF>KK>SF>KK>SF>did not wake up one morning and say..."today is my sexual ori KK>SF>KK>SF>KK>SF>choice day and I choose gay". KK>SF>KK>SF>KK>So what exactly is your point??? KK>SF>KK>SF>That sexual orientation, either straight, gay, or bi, is not a matt KK>SF>KK>SF>choice nor a mere lifestyle. KK>SF>KK>That is your opinion obviously. KK>SF>If you disagree, then tell me the circumstances when you chose your KK>SF>personal sexual orientation. KK>My believing that homosexuality is a choice does not in any way mean KK>that someone straight chose their sexual orientation. I did not choose KK>my sexual orientation. If you are not straight then you chose yours! Now that's a bit inconsistent, wouldn't you say Sheldon? Why do you believe that only "nonstraights" choose their sexual orientation, while "straight" people do not choose their sexual orientation? Personally, I believe that their is a lot more "choosing" going on among "straight" people than most "straight" people will admit to. For example, I believe that the strict prohibitions against homosexuality in Orthodox Judaism is explainable ONLY because homoerotic feelings arise in the NATURALLY arise in the sex segregrated world of Orthodox Judaism. Date: Monday, December 29, 1997 12:47pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 743276 To: Vida Re: B5 (Reply to #743241, Reply to #743220) (1 reply) VI>SF>If you should so wish, TNT will be broadcasting 3 times a half hour show VI>SF>called Guide to Babylon 5. They are 12/26 at 11PM, and 12/28 at 11PM and VI>SF>2AM. VI>I didn't get this message till the 27th. But I will try to set it up VI>to tape the show on the 28th. I have to try to tape it because it is VI>being shown past my bed time. :) So, was it a successful taping attempt? Date: Monday, December 29, 1997 12:49pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 743277 To: Vida Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743243, Reply to #743225, Reply to #743221, R*) (1 reply) VI>KK>SF>KK>SF>KK>You mean we all one day woke up and decided that "today" was VI>KK>SF>KK>SF>KK>important day where we will decide whether or not to be strai VI>KK>SF>KK>SF>KK>Are you kidding? VI>KK>SF>KK>SF>My point exactly! Just like you did not one day choose to be str VI>KK>SF>KK>SF>did not wake up one morning and say..."today is my sexual orient VI>KK>SF>KK>SF>choice day and I choose gay". VI>KK>SF>KK>So what exactly is your point??? VI>KK>SF>That sexual orientation, either straight, gay, or bi, is not a matter VI>KK>SF>choice nor a mere lifestyle. VI>KK>That is your opinion obviously. VI>By the way, I don't agree with Steve on this point. I think for ALL of VI>us it is more or less choose how we act upon our sexual desires. Actions and orientations are two seperate issues. Date: Monday, December 29, 1997 12:50pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 743278 To: Kkid Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743253, Reply to #743230, Reply to #743225, R*) (1 reply) KK>SF>KK>SF>KK>SF>KK>You mean we all one day woke up and decided that "today" w KK>SF>KK>SF>KK>SF>KK>important day where we will decide whether or not to be st KK>SF>KK>SF>KK>SF>KK>Are you kidding? KK>SF>KK>SF>KK>SF>My point exactly! Just like you did not one day choose to be KK>SF>KK>SF>KK>SF>did not wake up one morning and say..."today is my sexual ori KK>SF>KK>SF>KK>SF>choice day and I choose gay". KK>SF>KK>SF>KK>So what exactly is your point??? KK>SF>KK>SF>That sexual orientation, either straight, gay, or bi, is not a matt KK>SF>KK>SF>choice nor a mere lifestyle. KK>SF>KK>That is your opinion obviously. KK>SF>If you disagree, then tell me the circumstances when you chose your KK>SF>personal sexual orientation. KK>My believing that homosexuality is a choice does not in any way mean KK>that someone straight chose their sexual orientation. I did not choose KK>my sexual orientation. If you are not straight then you chose yours! Could you explain to me how being straight is a non-chosen orientation while being gay is a choice? Date: Monday, December 29, 1997 3:40pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve C Msg#: 743286 To: Kkid Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743185, Reply to #742994, Reply to #742977, R*) (1 reply) KK>MI>SF>MI>Maybe it is not stated openly in the Bible, but the ommentaries equ KK>MI>SF>MI>lesbianism to male homosexuality KK>MI>SF>Could you be more specific? KK>MI>It would definitely be illogical not to equate male and femake KK>MI>homosexuality as both are unproductive unions and there fore would be KK>MI>considered sinful. KK>I would say it is quite logical not to equate them! KK>When a male spills his seed it is considered as if a life in a sense is KK>being killed. That does not happen when you have a woman having sex KK>alone or with another woman. KK>But logic has nothing to do with it. The prohibition is on males and not KK>on females. The rabbis then put it on females as well. What I find amazing is how this passage means so many different things to different people. Upon reading the passage in context you find that it was a sin only bacause G*D had told him to impregnate his sister in law and by pulling out he disobeyed G*D's will. The Catholics used it to tell us that masturbation was a sin, and now I hear that the Rabbi's use it to condemn gay sexual unions. Amazing how it has been translated to match the religion's views :) * OLX 2.1 TD * "I survived torture. I'm ready to date Lwaxana" Picard Date: Monday, December 29, 1997 9:07pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 743295 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #743276, Reply to #743241, Reply to #743220) (1 reply) SF>VI>SF>If you should so wish, TNT will be broadcasting 3 times a half hour sh SF>VI>SF>called Guide to Babylon 5. They are 12/26 at 11PM, and 12/28 at 11PM a SF>VI>SF>2AM. SF>VI>I didn't get this message till the 27th. But I will try to set it up SF>VI>to tape the show on the 28th. I have to try to tape it because it is SF>VI>being shown past my bed time. :) SF>So, was it a successful taping attempt? Not exactly, as usual. :( Date: Monday, December 29, 1997 9:10pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 743296 To: Steve Flur Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743277, Reply to #743243, Reply to #743225, R*) (1 reply) SF>VI>KK>SF>KK>SF>KK>You mean we all one day woke up and decided that "today" w SF>VI>KK>SF>KK>SF>KK>important day where we will decide whether or not to be st SF>VI>KK>SF>KK>SF>KK>Are you kidding? SF>VI>KK>SF>KK>SF>My point exactly! Just like you did not one day choose to be SF>VI>KK>SF>KK>SF>did not wake up one morning and say..."today is my sexual ori SF>VI>KK>SF>KK>SF>choice day and I choose gay". SF>VI>KK>SF>KK>So what exactly is your point??? SF>VI>KK>SF>That sexual orientation, either straight, gay, or bi, is not a matt SF>VI>KK>SF>choice nor a mere lifestyle. SF>VI>KK>That is your opinion obviously. SF>VI>By the way, I don't agree with Steve on this point. I think for ALL of SF>VI>us it is more or less choose how we act upon our sexual desires. SF>Actions and orientations are two seperate issues. That goes without saying. I just think it smacks of self pity when g/l/b people argue that they "can't help being gay" etc. Date: Tuesday, December 30, 1997 9:24am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Kkid Msg#: 743306 To: Vida Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743255, Reply to #743253, Reply to #743230, R*) (2 replies) VI>KK>My believing that homosexuality is a choice does not in any way mean VI>KK>that someone straight chose their sexual orientation. I did not choose VI>KK>my sexual orientation. If you are not straight then you chose yours! VI>Now that's a bit inconsistent, wouldn't you say Sheldon? If one believes that being straight is the "norm", then I am not being inconsistent. VI>Why do you believe that only "nonstraights" choose their sexual VI>orientation, while "straight" people do not choose their sexual VI>orientation? VI>among "straight" people than most "straight" people will admit to. VI>For example, I believe that the strict prohibitions against VI>homosexuality in Orthodox Judaism is explainable ONLY because VI>homoerotic feelings arise in the NATURALLY arise in the sex VI>segregrated world of Orthodox Judaism. There are strict prohibitions in Judaism regarding males and females being together. There are no "strict" prohibitions regarding males that are together. There is simply the prohibition of males having sexual intercourse. Date: Tuesday, December 30, 1997 9:27am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Kkid Msg#: 743307 To: Steve Flur Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743278, Reply to #743253, Reply to #743230, R*) (1 reply) SF>KK>SF>KK>That is your opinion obviously. SF>KK>SF>If you disagree, then tell me the circumstances when you chose your SF>KK>SF>personal sexual orientation. SF>KK>My believing that homosexuality is a choice does not in any way mean SF>KK>that someone straight chose their sexual orientation. I did not choose SF>KK>my sexual orientation. If you are not straight then you chose yours! SF>Could you explain to me how being straight is a non-chosen orientation SF>while being gay is a choice? I am not a biologist. Because you do not remember chosing something does not mean you were born with that preference. Date: Tuesday, December 30, 1997 9:30am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Kkid Msg#: 743308 To: Steve C Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743286, Reply to #743185, Reply to #742994, R*) SC>What I find amazing is how this passage means so many different things SC>to different people. SC>Upon reading the passage in context you find that it was a sin only SC>bacause G*D had told him to impregnate his sister in law and by pulling SC>out he disobeyed G*D's will. SC>The Catholics used it to tell us that masturbation was a sin, and now I SC>hear that the Rabbi's use it to condemn gay sexual unions. SC>Amazing how it has been translated to match the religion's views :) Nothing amazing about it. People will believe what they want to believe. They will certainly not want to believe that something they enjoy can be wrong. It's what psychologists call "rationalization." Date: Tuesday, December 30, 1997 9:58am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 743316 To: Vida Re: B5 (Reply to #743295, Reply to #743276, Reply to #743241, R*) VI>SF>VI>SF>If you should so wish, TNT will be broadcasting 3 times a half hour VI>SF>VI>SF>called Guide to Babylon 5. They are 12/26 at 11PM, and 12/28 at 11P VI>SF>VI>SF>2AM. VI>SF>VI>I didn't get this message till the 27th. But I will try to set it up VI>SF>VI>to tape the show on the 28th. I have to try to tape it because it is VI>SF>VI>being shown past my bed time. :) VI>SF>So, was it a successful taping attempt? VI>Not exactly, as usual. :( Too bad :( Date: Tuesday, December 30, 1997 10:01am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 743317 To: Vida Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743296, Reply to #743277, Reply to #743243, R*) (1 reply) VI>SF>VI>KK>SF>KK>SF>KK>You mean we all one day woke up and decided that "today VI>SF>VI>KK>SF>KK>SF>KK>important day where we will decide whether or not to be VI>SF>VI>KK>SF>KK>SF>KK>Are you kidding? VI>SF>VI>KK>SF>KK>SF>My point exactly! Just like you did not one day choose to VI>SF>VI>KK>SF>KK>SF>did not wake up one morning and say..."today is my sexual VI>SF>VI>KK>SF>KK>SF>choice day and I choose gay". VI>SF>VI>KK>SF>KK>So what exactly is your point??? VI>SF>VI>KK>SF>That sexual orientation, either straight, gay, or bi, is not a m VI>SF>VI>KK>SF>choice nor a mere lifestyle. VI>SF>VI>KK>That is your opinion obviously. VI>SF>VI>By the way, I don't agree with Steve on this point. I think for ALL o VI>SF>VI>us it is more or less choose how we act upon our sexual desires. VI>SF>Actions and orientations are two seperate issues. VI>That goes without saying. I just think it smacks of self pity when VI>g/l/b people argue that they "can't help being gay" etc. I never said I can't help being gay, but rather I did NOT CHOOSE to be gay, it is simply how I am Date: Tuesday, December 30, 1997 10:03am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 743318 To: Kkid Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743306, Reply to #743255, Reply to #743253, R*) (1 reply) KK>VI>KK>My believing that homosexuality is a choice does not in any way mean KK>VI>KK>that someone straight chose their sexual orientation. I did not choose KK>VI>KK>my sexual orientation. If you are not straight then you chose yours! KK>VI>Now that's a bit inconsistent, wouldn't you say Sheldon? KK>If one believes that being straight is the "norm", then I am not being KK>inconsistent. KK>VI>Why do you believe that only "nonstraights" choose their sexual KK>VI>orientation, while "straight" people do not choose their sexual KK>VI>orientation? KK>VI>among "straight" people than most "straight" people will admit to. KK>VI>For example, I believe that the strict prohibitions against KK>VI>homosexuality in Orthodox Judaism is explainable ONLY because KK>VI>homoerotic feelings arise in the NATURALLY arise in the sex KK>VI>segregrated world of Orthodox Judaism. KK>There are strict prohibitions in Judaism regarding males and females KK>being together. There are no "strict" prohibitions regarding males that KK>are together. There is simply the prohibition of males having sexual KK>intercourse. Do you mean you do not recall that it is written in the Mishnah Brurah that two 2 men not sleep in the same bed for fear it might lead to something..... Date: Tuesday, December 30, 1997 10:04am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 743319 To: Kkid Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743307, Reply to #743278, Reply to #743253, R*) (1 reply) KK>SF>KK>SF>KK>That is your opinion obviously. KK>SF>KK>SF>If you disagree, then tell me the circumstances when you chose your KK>SF>KK>SF>personal sexual orientation. KK>SF>KK>My believing that homosexuality is a choice does not in any way mean KK>SF>KK>that someone straight chose their sexual orientation. I did not choose KK>SF>KK>my sexual orientation. If you are not straight then you chose yours! KK>SF>Could you explain to me how being straight is a non-chosen orientation KK>SF>while being gay is a choice? KK>I am not a biologist. KK>Because you do not remember chosing something does not mean you were KK>born with that preference. Same applies to you, by that "logic:. Date: Wednesday, December 31, 1997 6:37am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 743355 To: Kkid Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743306, Reply to #743255, Reply to #743253, R*) (1 reply) KK>VI>KK>My believing that homosexuality is a choice does not in any way mean KK>VI>KK>that someone straight chose their sexual orientation. I did not choose KK>VI>KK>my sexual orientation. If you are not straight then you chose yours! KK>VI>Now that's a bit inconsistent, wouldn't you say Sheldon? KK>If one believes that being straight is the "norm", then I am not being KK>inconsistent. What does that have to do with anything? The fact that heterosexuality is the "norm" means is that most people act in a certain way. Why would this have any correlation as to whether sexual orientation is chosen or "inborn'? And why would one form of sexuality be chosen while other forms would be inborn? KK>VI>Why do you believe that only "nonstraights" choose their sexual KK>VI>orientation, while "straight" people do not choose their sexual KK>VI>orientation? KK>VI>among "straight" people than most "straight" people will admit to. KK>VI>For example, I believe that the strict prohibitions against KK>VI>homosexuality in Orthodox Judaism is explainable ONLY because KK>VI>homoerotic feelings arise in the NATURALLY arise in the sex KK>VI>segregrated world of Orthodox Judaism. KK>There are strict prohibitions in Judaism regarding males and females KK>being together. There are no "strict" prohibitions regarding males that KK>are together. There is simply the prohibition of males having sexual KK>intercourse. But why does that prohibition exist? I argue that the prohibition exists because in the sex segregrated world of Orthodox Judaism the choice was either to permit/approve of homosexuality OR strictly control the homoerotic impulses of "straight" identified men. Date: Wednesday, December 31, 1997 6:43am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 743356 To: Steve Flur Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743317, Reply to #743296, Reply to #743277, R*) (2 replies) SF>VI>SF>VI>By the way, I don't agree with Steve on this point. I think for AL SF>VI>SF>VI>us it is more or less choose how we act upon our sexual desires. SF>VI>SF>Actions and orientations are two seperate issues. SF>VI>That goes without saying. I just think it smacks of self pity when SF>VI>g/l/b people argue that they "can't help being gay" etc. SF>I never said I can't help being gay, but rather I did NOT CHOOSE to be gay, SF>it is simply how I am I'm sure that's what you believe. But I will give you the other reason why I don't like saying that g/l/b people don't choose being 'queer". It lets "straight people" off the hook when you do so. I believe that one of the main origins of homophobia is the repressed homoerotic impulses of the homophobe. In every case I have encountered if you scractch a homophobe you will find a repressed queer. Date: Wednesday, December 31, 1997 1:00pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 743372 To: Vida Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743356, Reply to #743317, Reply to #743296, R*) (1 reply) VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>By the way, I don't agree with Steve on this point. I think for VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>us it is more or less choose how we act upon our sexual desires. VI>SF>VI>SF>Actions and orientations are two seperate issues. VI>SF>VI>That goes without saying. I just think it smacks of self pity when VI>SF>VI>g/l/b people argue that they "can't help being gay" etc. VI>SF>I never said I can't help being gay, but rather I did NOT CHOOSE to be ga VI>SF>it is simply how I am VI>I'm sure that's what you believe. VI>But I will give you the other reason why I don't like saying that g/l/b VI>people don't choose being 'queer". It lets "straight people" off the VI>hook when you do so. VI>I believe that one of the main origins of homophobia is the repressed VI>homoerotic impulses of the homophobe. In every case I have encountered VI>if you scractch a homophobe you will find a repressed queer. Conversely, could I be a repressed straight? The advocates of reparitive therapy would have you believe I was. Date: Wednesday, December 31, 1997 7:17pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 743392 To: Steve Flur Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743372, Reply to #743356, Reply to #743317, R*) (1 reply) SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>By the way, I don't agree with Steve on this point. I think SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>us it is more or less choose how we act upon our sexual desir SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Actions and orientations are two seperate issues. SF>VI>SF>VI>That goes without saying. I just think it smacks of self pity when SF>VI>SF>VI>g/l/b people argue that they "can't help being gay" etc. SF>VI>SF>I never said I can't help being gay, but rather I did NOT CHOOSE to be SF>VI>SF>it is simply how I am SF>VI>I'm sure that's what you believe. SF>VI>But I will give you the other reason why I don't like saying that g/l/b SF>VI>people don't choose being 'queer". It lets "straight people" off the SF>VI>hook when you do so. SF>VI>I believe that one of the main origins of homophobia is the repressed SF>VI>homoerotic impulses of the homophobe. In every case I have encountered SF>VI>if you scractch a homophobe you will find a repressed queer. SF>Conversely, could I be a repressed straight? The advocates of reparitive SF>therapy would have you believe I was. Actually, you may be a repressed bi. I think that's the natural state for most people. :) Date: Friday, January 2, 1998 8:37am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Kkid Msg#: 743395 To: Steve Flur Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743318, Reply to #743306, Reply to #743255, R*) (1 reply) SF>KK>are together. There is simply the prohibition of males having sexual SF>KK>intercourse. SF>Do you mean you do not recall that it is written in the Mishnah Brurah SF>that two 2 men not sleep in the same bed for fear it might lead to [B>something..... No, I do not recall this. Can you tell me where in the Mishnah Brurah to find it? Date: Friday, January 2, 1998 8:38am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Kkid Msg#: 743396 To: Steve Flur Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743319, Reply to #743307, Reply to #743278, R*) (1 reply) SF>KK>SF>KK>SF>KK>That is your opinion obviously. SF>KK>SF>KK>SF>If you disagree, then tell me the circumstances when you chose y SF>KK>SF>KK>SF>personal sexual orientation. SF>KK>SF>KK>My believing that homosexuality is a choice does not in any way mea SF>KK>SF>KK>that someone straight chose their sexual orientation. I did not cho SF>KK>SF>KK>my sexual orientation. If you are not straight then you chose yours SF>KK>SF>Could you explain to me how being straight is a non-chosen orientation SF>KK>SF>while being gay is a choice? SF>KK>I am not a biologist. SF>KK>Because you do not remember chosing something does not mean you were SF>KK>born with that preference. SF>Same applies to you, by that "logic:. I still have no idea what your point is. Date: Friday, January 2, 1998 8:42am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Kkid Msg#: 743397 To: Vida Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743355, Reply to #743306, Reply to #743255, R*) (2 replies) VI>What does that have to do with anything? The fact that VI>heterosexuality is the "norm" means is that most people act in a VI>certain way. VI>Why would this have any correlation as to whether sexual orientation is VI>chosen or "inborn'? And why would one form of sexuality be chosen VI>while other forms would be inborn? VI>KK>VI>Why do you believe that only "nonstraights" choose their sexual VI>KK>VI>orientation, while "straight" people do not choose their sexual VI>KK>VI>orientation? I have no idea what it has to do with anything either. Steve brought it up and I keep asking him what his point is! He did tell you a few messages back that he does not HAVE to be the way he is but that he simply does not remember chosing his preference. VI>But why does that prohibition exist? I argue that the prohibition VI>exists because in the sex segregrated world of Orthodox Judaism the VI>choice was either to permit/approve of homosexuality OR strictly VI>control the homoerotic impulses of "straight" identified men. Let us assume that you are correct. Now, so what? Date: Friday, January 2, 1998 8:46am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Kkid Msg#: 743398 To: Vida Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743356, Reply to #743317, Reply to #743296, R*) (1 reply) VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>By the way, I don't agree with Steve on this point. I think for VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>us it is more or less choose how we act upon our sexual desires. VI>SF>VI>SF>Actions and orientations are two seperate issues. VI>SF>VI>That goes without saying. I just think it smacks of self pity when VI>SF>VI>g/l/b people argue that they "can't help being gay" etc. VI>SF>I never said I can't help being gay, but rather I did NOT CHOOSE to be ga VI>SF>it is simply how I am VI>I'm sure that's what you believe. VI>But I will give you the other reason why I don't like saying that g/l/b VI>people don't choose being 'queer". It lets "straight people" off the VI>hook when you do so. VI>I believe that one of the main origins of homophobia is the repressed VI>homoerotic impulses of the homophobe. In every case I have encountered VI>if you scractch a homophobe you will find a repressed queer. I'm not zapping any part of this message. In the second paragraph above Steve says that he never said he can not help being gay. That is an important statement, and one that is used in sources that discuss homosexuality. Now, as to your last comment..."In every case I have encountered if you scratch a homophobe you will find a repressed queer" You'll have to remind me again what your definition of homophobe is. Date: Friday, January 2, 1998 10:47am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 743409 To: Vida Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743392, Reply to #743372, Reply to #743356, R*) (1 reply) VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>By the way, I don't agree with Steve on this point. I thi VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>us it is more or less choose how we act upon our sexual de VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Actions and orientations are two seperate issues. VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>That goes without saying. I just think it smacks of self pity w VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>g/l/b people argue that they "can't help being gay" etc. VI>SF>VI>SF>I never said I can't help being gay, but rather I did NOT CHOOSE to VI>SF>VI>SF>it is simply how I am VI>SF>VI>I'm sure that's what you believe. VI>SF>VI>But I will give you the other reason why I don't like saying that g/l/ VI>SF>VI>people don't choose being 'queer". It lets "straight people" off the VI>SF>VI>hook when you do so. VI>SF>VI>I believe that one of the main origins of homophobia is the repressed VI>SF>VI>homoerotic impulses of the homophobe. In every case I have encountere VI>SF>VI>if you scractch a homophobe you will find a repressed queer. VI>SF>Conversely, could I be a repressed straight? The advocates of reparitive VI>SF>therapy would have you believe I was. VI>Actually, you may be a repressed bi. I think that's the natural state VI>for most people. :) I can honestly say that I absolutely no straight/bi feelings or thoughts. Date: Friday, January 2, 1998 10:48am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 743410 To: Kkid Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743395, Reply to #743318, Reply to #743306, R*) (1 reply) KK>SF>KK>are together. There is simply the prohibition of males having KK>sexual KK>SF>KK>intercourse. KK>SF>Do you mean you do not recall that it is written in the Mishnah Brurah KK>SF>that two 2 men not sleep in the same bed for fear it might lead to KK>[B>something..... KK>No, I do not recall this. Can you tell me where in the Mishnah Brurah KK>to find it? I honestly do not have a copy here to give you an exact location. Date: Friday, January 2, 1998 10:51am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 743411 To: Kkid Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743396, Reply to #743319, Reply to #743307, R*) (1 reply) KK>SF>KK>SF>KK>SF>KK>That is your opinion obviously. KK>SF>KK>SF>KK>SF>If you disagree, then tell me the circumstances when you chos KK>SF>KK>SF>KK>SF>personal sexual orientation. KK>SF>KK>SF>KK>My believing that homosexuality is a choice does not in any way KK>SF>KK>SF>KK>that someone straight chose their sexual orientation. I did not KK>SF>KK>SF>KK>my sexual orientation. If you are not straight then you chose yo KK>SF>KK>SF>Could you explain to me how being straight is a non-chosen orientat KK>SF>KK>SF>while being gay is a choice? KK>SF>KK>I am not a biologist. KK>SF>KK>Because you do not remember chosing something does not mean you were KK>SF>KK>born with that preference. KK>SF>Same applies to you, by that "logic:. KK>I still have no idea what your point is. If I chose then you chose, and if I did not chose you did not chose. Sexual orientation does not one set of rules for straights, others for gays/lesbians, others for bi's, etc. Date: Friday, January 2, 1998 10:53am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 743412 To: Kkid Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743397, Reply to #743355, Reply to #743306, R*) (1 reply) KK>VI>What does that have to do with anything? The fact that KK>VI>heterosexuality is the "norm" means is that most people act in a KK>VI>certain way. KK>VI>Why would this have any correlation as to whether sexual orientation is KK>VI>chosen or "inborn'? And why would one form of sexuality be chosen KK>VI>while other forms would be inborn? KK>VI>KK>VI>Why do you believe that only "nonstraights" choose their sexual KK>VI>KK>VI>orientation, while "straight" people do not choose their sexual KK>VI>KK>VI>orientation? KK>I have no idea what it has to do with anything either. Steve brought it KK>up and I keep asking him what his point is! KK>He did tell you a few messages back that he does not HAVE to be the way KK>he is but that he simply does not remember chosing his preference. KK>VI>But why does that prohibition exist? I argue that the prohibition KK>VI>exists because in the sex segregrated world of Orthodox Judaism the KK>VI>choice was either to permit/approve of homosexuality OR strictly KK>VI>control the homoerotic impulses of "straight" identified men. KK>Let us assume that you are correct. Now, so what? I have NEVER said I do not remember choosing, to mean that I chose but do not remember, but rather to mean that sexual orientation is not a matter of choice. Date: Saturday, January 3, 1998 5:17am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 743432 To: Kkid Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743397, Reply to #743355, Reply to #743306, R*) KK>VI>What does that have to do with anything? The fact that KK>VI>heterosexuality is the "norm" means is that most people act in a KK>VI>certain way. KK>VI>Why would this have any correlation as to whether sexual orientation is KK>VI>chosen or "inborn'? And why would one form of sexuality be chosen KK>VI>while other forms would be inborn? KK>VI>KK>VI>Why do you believe that only "nonstraights" choose their sexual KK>VI>KK>VI>orientation, while "straight" people do not choose their sexual KK>VI>KK>VI>orientation? KK>I have no idea what it has to do with anything either. Steve brought it KK>up and I keep asking him what his point is! KK>He did tell you a few messages back that he does not HAVE to be the way KK>he is but that he simply does not remember chosing his preference. KK>VI>But why does that prohibition exist? I argue that the prohibition KK>VI>exists because in the sex segregrated world of Orthodox Judaism the KK>VI>choice was either to permit/approve of homosexuality OR strictly KK>VI>control the homoerotic impulses of "straight" identified men. KK>Let us assume that you are correct. Now, so what? Well the real crux of the whole thing is whether or not it is morally acceptable to engage in g/l sex or not. I think Steve Flur argues that homosexuality is not chosen because he feels that somehow the fact that it is not chosen makes it morally ok. I, on the other hand, think that g/l sex is morally acceptable period. I think the prohibitions against gay sexuality within Orthodox Judaism have more to do with the Jews' struggle to maintain their cultural distinction against the Greeks, who not only tolerated homosexuality but celebrated male homosexuality. Date: Saturday, January 3, 1998 5:21am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 743433 To: Kkid Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743398, Reply to #743356, Reply to #743317, R*) (1 reply) KK>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>By the way, I don't agree with Steve on this point. I think KK>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>us it is more or less choose how we act upon our sexual desir KK>VI>SF>VI>SF>Actions and orientations are two seperate issues. KK>VI>SF>VI>That goes without saying. I just think it smacks of self pity when KK>VI>SF>VI>g/l/b people argue that they "can't help being gay" etc. KK>VI>SF>I never said I can't help being gay, but rather I did NOT CHOOSE to be KK>VI>SF>it is simply how I am KK>VI>I'm sure that's what you believe. KK>VI>But I will give you the other reason why I don't like saying that g/l/b KK>VI>people don't choose being 'queer". It lets "straight people" off the KK>VI>hook when you do so. KK>VI>I believe that one of the main origins of homophobia is the repressed KK>VI>homoerotic impulses of the homophobe. In every case I have encountered KK>VI>if you scractch a homophobe you will find a repressed queer. KK>I'm not zapping any part of this message. In the second paragraph above KK>Steve says that he never said he can not help being gay. That is an KK>important statement, and one that is used in sources that discuss KK>homosexuality. KK>Now, as to your last comment..."In every case I have encountered if you KK>scratch a homophobe you will find a repressed queer" You'll have to KK>remind me again what your definition of homophobe is. A homophobe is a person who fears and hates gay or lesbian people. BTW, since I have never meet you IRL I have no idea whether you are a homophobe or not. I was just talking about my personal experience. And in my personal experience, a homophobe is struggling to suppress his/her own homoerotic feelings. Date: Saturday, January 3, 1998 5:23am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 743434 To: Steve Flur Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743409, Reply to #743392, Reply to #743372, R*) (1 reply) SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>By the way, I don't agree with Steve on this point. I SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>us it is more or less choose how we act upon our sexual SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Actions and orientations are two seperate issues. SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>That goes without saying. I just think it smacks of self pit SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>g/l/b people argue that they "can't help being gay" etc. SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>I never said I can't help being gay, but rather I did NOT CHOOSE SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>it is simply how I am SF>VI>SF>VI>I'm sure that's what you believe. SF>VI>SF>VI>But I will give you the other reason why I don't like saying that g SF>VI>SF>VI>people don't choose being 'queer". It lets "straight people" off t SF>VI>SF>VI>hook when you do so. SF>VI>SF>VI>I believe that one of the main origins of homophobia is the repress SF>VI>SF>VI>homoerotic impulses of the homophobe. In every case I have encount SF>VI>SF>VI>if you scractch a homophobe you will find a repressed queer. SF>VI>SF>Conversely, could I be a repressed straight? The advocates of repariti SF>VI>SF>therapy would have you believe I was. SF>VI>Actually, you may be a repressed bi. I think that's the natural state SF>VI>for most people. :) SF>I can honestly say that I absolutely no straight/bi feelings or SF>thoughts. Can you honestly say that you have NEVER been sexually attracted to a female once in your life? Date: Monday, January 5, 1998 12:28pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 743444 To: Vida Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743434, Reply to #743409, Reply to #743392, R*) (1 reply) VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>By the way, I don't agree with Steve on this point. VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>us it is more or less choose how we act upon our sex VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Actions and orientations are two seperate issues. VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>That goes without saying. I just think it smacks of self VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>g/l/b people argue that they "can't help being gay" etc. VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>I never said I can't help being gay, but rather I did NOT CHO VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>it is simply how I am VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>I'm sure that's what you believe. VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>But I will give you the other reason why I don't like saying tha VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>people don't choose being 'queer". It lets "straight people" of VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>hook when you do so. VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>I believe that one of the main origins of homophobia is the repr VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>homoerotic impulses of the homophobe. In every case I have enco VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>if you scractch a homophobe you will find a repressed queer. VI>SF>VI>SF>Conversely, could I be a repressed straight? The advocates of repar VI>SF>VI>SF>therapy would have you believe I was. VI>SF>VI>Actually, you may be a repressed bi. I think that's the natural state VI>SF>VI>for most people. :) VI>SF>I can honestly say that I absolutely no straight/bi feelings or VI>SF>thoughts. VI>Can you honestly say that you have NEVER been sexually attracted to a VI>female once in your life? Wether you wish to believe me or not, the answer is an absolute NEVER. Date: Tuesday, January 6, 1998 7:12am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 743481 To: Steve Flur Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743444, Reply to #743434, Reply to #743409, R*) (1 reply) SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>By the way, I don't agree with Steve on this poin SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>us it is more or less choose how we act upon our SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Actions and orientations are two seperate issues. SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>That goes without saying. I just think it smacks of se SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>g/l/b people argue that they "can't help being gay" etc SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>I never said I can't help being gay, but rather I did NOT SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>it is simply how I am SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>I'm sure that's what you believe. SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>But I will give you the other reason why I don't like saying SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>people don't choose being 'queer". It lets "straight people" SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>hook when you do so. SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>I believe that one of the main origins of homophobia is the r SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>homoerotic impulses of the homophobe. In every case I have e SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>if you scractch a homophobe you will find a repressed queer. SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Conversely, could I be a repressed straight? The advocates of re SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>therapy would have you believe I was. SF>VI>SF>VI>Actually, you may be a repressed bi. I think that's the natural st SF>VI>SF>VI>for most people. :) SF>VI>SF>I can honestly say that I absolutely no straight/bi feelings or SF>VI>SF>thoughts. SF>VI>Can you honestly say that you have NEVER been sexually attracted to a SF>VI>female once in your life? SF>Wether you wish to believe me or not, the answer is an absolute NEVER. If that's what you say then why should I doubt you? Date: Tuesday, January 6, 1998 9:36am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 743498 To: Vida Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743481, Reply to #743444, Reply to #743434, R*) (1 reply) VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>By the way, I don't agree with Steve on this p VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>us it is more or less choose how we act upon o VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Actions and orientations are two seperate issues. VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>That goes without saying. I just think it smacks of VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>g/l/b people argue that they "can't help being gay" VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>I never said I can't help being gay, but rather I did N VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>it is simply how I am VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>I'm sure that's what you believe. VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>But I will give you the other reason why I don't like sayi VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>people don't choose being 'queer". It lets "straight peop VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>hook when you do so. VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>I believe that one of the main origins of homophobia is th VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>homoerotic impulses of the homophobe. In every case I hav VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>if you scractch a homophobe you will find a repressed quee VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Conversely, could I be a repressed straight? The advocates of VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>therapy would have you believe I was. VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>Actually, you may be a repressed bi. I think that's the natural VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>for most people. :) VI>SF>VI>SF>I can honestly say that I absolutely no straight/bi feelings or VI>SF>VI>SF>thoughts. VI>SF>VI>Can you honestly say that you have NEVER been sexually attracted to a VI>SF>VI>female once in your life? VI>SF>Wether you wish to believe me or not, the answer is an absolute NEVER. VI>If that's what you say then why should I doubt you? Based upon your statement that you believe that everyone is essentially bisexual. Date: Tuesday, January 6, 1998 9:38am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 743499 To: Steve C Re: B5-The Beginning (1 reply) So.....what are you thoughts on the prequal movie? Date: Wednesday, January 7, 1998 4:57am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 743543 To: Steve Flur Re: Bisexuality (Reply to #743498, Reply to #743481, Reply to #743444, R*) (1 reply) SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>By the way, I don't agree with Steve on thi SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>us it is more or less choose how we act upo SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Actions and orientations are two seperate issu SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>That goes without saying. I just think it smacks SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>g/l/b people argue that they "can't help being ga SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>I never said I can't help being gay, but rather I di SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>it is simply how I am SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>I'm sure that's what you believe. SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>But I will give you the other reason why I don't like s SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>people don't choose being 'queer". It lets "straight p SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>hook when you do so. SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>I believe that one of the main origins of homophobia is SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>homoerotic impulses of the homophobe. In every case I SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>if you scractch a homophobe you will find a repressed q SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Conversely, could I be a repressed straight? The advocates SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>therapy would have you believe I was. SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>Actually, you may be a repressed bi. I think that's the natu SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>for most people. :) SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>I can honestly say that I absolutely no straight/bi feelings or SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>thoughts. SF>VI>SF>VI>Can you honestly say that you have NEVER been sexually attracted to SF>VI>SF>VI>female once in your life? SF>VI>SF>Wether you wish to believe me or not, the answer is an absolute NEVER. SF>VI>If that's what you say then why should I doubt you? SF>Based upon your statement that you believe that everyone is essentially SF>bisexual. I said I believe MOST people are naturally bi. If I had to guessestimate I would say 10% of the population is purely gay or lesbian (meaning they are only attracted to members of the same sex), 10% are purely hetero (meaning they are only attracted to members of the opposite sex). That leaves 80% of the population that feels sexually attracted to BOTH--but not all of the 80% actually ACT on those attractions, mainly because of the effects of homophobia. Date: Wednesday, January 7, 1998 10:16am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 743558 To: Vida Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743543, Reply to #743498, Reply to #743481, R*) (1 reply) VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>By the way, I don't agree with Steve on VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>us it is more or less choose how we act VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Actions and orientations are two seperate i VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>That goes without saying. I just think it sma VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>g/l/b people argue that they "can't help being VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>I never said I can't help being gay, but rather I VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>it is simply how I am VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>I'm sure that's what you believe. VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>But I will give you the other reason why I don't lik VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>people don't choose being 'queer". It lets "straigh VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>hook when you do so. VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>I believe that one of the main origins of homophobia VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>homoerotic impulses of the homophobe. In every case VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>if you scractch a homophobe you will find a represse VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Conversely, could I be a repressed straight? The advoca VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>therapy would have you believe I was. VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>Actually, you may be a repressed bi. I think that's the n VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>for most people. :) VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>I can honestly say that I absolutely no straight/bi feelings VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>thoughts. VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>Can you honestly say that you have NEVER been sexually attracted VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>female once in your life? VI>SF>VI>SF>Wether you wish to believe me or not, the answer is an absolute NEV VI>SF>VI>If that's what you say then why should I doubt you? VI>SF>Based upon your statement that you believe that everyone is essentially VI>SF>bisexual. VI>I said I believe MOST people are naturally bi. If I had to VI>guessestimate I would say 10% of the population is purely gay or lesbian VI>(meaning they are only attracted to members of the same sex), 10% are VI>purely hetero (meaning they are only attracted to members of the VI>opposite sex). That leaves 80% of the population that feels sexually VI>attracted to BOTH--but not all of the 80% actually ACT on those VI>attractions, mainly because of the effects of homophobia. Interesting guesstimate, which conforms closely with the Kinsey theory. Date: Wednesday, January 7, 1998 11:28am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Kkid Msg#: 743562 To: Steve Flur Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743410, Reply to #743395, Reply to #743318, R*) (1 reply) SF>KK>SF>KK>are together. There is simply the prohibition of males having SF>KK>sexual SF>KK>SF>KK>intercourse. SF>KK>SF>Do you mean you do not recall that it is written in the Mishnah Brurah SF>KK>SF>that two 2 men not sleep in the same bed for fear it might lead to SF>KK>[B>something..... SF>KK>No, I do not recall this. Can you tell me where in the Mishnah Brurah SF>KK>to find it? SF>I honestly do not have a copy here to give you an exact location. As you would say..."very convenient." I can not state that you are wrong. But I do know that a male and female are not permitted to be alone in a room if there is a question of Yichud involved. That problem certainly does not exist among two males. I also know that in Europe individuals of the same sex did share the same bed. Perhaps whether they are naked or not would play a role? Date: Wednesday, January 7, 1998 11:31am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Kkid Msg#: 743563 To: Steve Flur Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743411, Reply to #743396, Reply to #743319, R*) (2 replies) SF>KK>SF>KK>I am not a biologist. SF>KK>SF>KK>Because you do not remember chosing something does not mean you wer SF>KK>SF>KK>born with that preference. SF>KK>SF>Same applies to you, by that "logic:. SF>KK>I still have no idea what your point is. SF>If I chose then you chose, and if I did not chose you did not chose. SF>Sexual orientation does not one set of rules for straights, others for SF>gays/lesbians, others for bi's, etc. I think your statement is silly! I guess if one likes having sex with children, or with animals then you claim they were born that way as well? The part I find silly is that you really believe that everyone was created equally. Date: Wednesday, January 7, 1998 11:33am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Kkid Msg#: 743564 To: Steve Flur Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743412, Reply to #743397, Reply to #743355, R*) [B>KK>Let us assume that you are correct. Now, so what? SF>I have NEVER said I do not remember choosing, to mean that I chose but SF>do not remember, but rather to mean that sexual orientation is not a SF>matter of choice. See Vida...she is the lawyer. Date: Wednesday, January 7, 1998 11:36am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Kkid Msg#: 743565 To: Vida Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743433, Reply to #743398, Reply to #743356, R*) (1 reply) VI>KK>Now, as to your last comment..."In every case I have encountered if you VI>KK>remind me again what your definition of homophobe is. VI>A[Bomophobe is a person who fears and hates gay or lesbian people. BTW, VI>since I have never meet you IRL I have no idea whether you are a VI>homophobe or not. I was just talking about my personal experience. VI>And in my personal experience, a homophobe is struggling to suppress VI>his/her own homoerotic feelings. Rest assured then, I am not a homophobe. Date: Wednesday, January 7, 1998 12:23pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 743568 To: Kkid Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743563, Reply to #743411, Reply to #743396, R*) (2 replies) KK>SF>KK>SF>KK>I am not a biologist. KK>SF>KK>SF>KK>Because you do not remember chosing something does not mean you KK>SF>KK>SF>KK>born with that preference. KK>SF>KK>SF>Same applies to you, by that "logic:. KK>SF>KK>I still have no idea what your point is. KK>SF>If I chose then you chose, and if I did not chose you did not chose. KK>SF>Sexual orientation does not one set of rules for straights, others for KK>SF>gays/lesbians, others for bi's, etc. KK>I think your statement is silly! KK>I guess if one likes having sex with children, or with animals then you KK>claim they were born that way as well? KK>The part I find silly is that you really believe that everyone was KK>created equally. Obviously one cannot maintain a dialogue when the other side chooses to not even make believe they are listening. Date: Wednesday, January 7, 1998 3:35pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve C Msg#: 743571 To: Steve Flur Re: B5-The Beginning (Reply to #743499) (1 reply) SF>So.....what are you thoughts on the prequal movie? I didn't get a chance to see it. :( I got a file from a friend, who is a big B5 fan, which contains the synopses of "The Gathering" plus all four seasons of B5(with the exception of episode 33:"All Alone in the Night") If you or anyone else is interested I can upload it here. * OLX 2.1 TD * Cats: the ultimate stress reliever. Date: Wednesday, January 7, 1998 10:09pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 743590 To: Steve Flur Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743558, Reply to #743543, Reply to #743498, R*) (1 reply) SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>By the way, I don't agree with Steve SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>us it is more or less choose how we a SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Actions and orientations are two seperat SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>That goes without saying. I just think it SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>g/l/b people argue that they "can't help be SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>I never said I can't help being gay, but rathe SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>it is simply how I am SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>I'm sure that's what you believe. SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>But I will give you the other reason why I don't SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>people don't choose being 'queer". It lets "stra SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>hook when you do so. SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>I believe that one of the main origins of homopho SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>homoerotic impulses of the homophobe. In every c SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>if you scractch a homophobe you will find a repre SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Conversely, could I be a repressed straight? The adv SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>therapy would have you believe I was. SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>Actually, you may be a repressed bi. I think that's th SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>for most people. :) SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>I can honestly say that I absolutely no straight/bi feelin SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>thoughts. SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>Can you honestly say that you have NEVER been sexually attrac SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>female once in your life? SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Wether you wish to believe me or not, the answer is an absolute SF>VI>SF>VI>If that's what you say then why should I doubt you? SF>VI>SF>Based upon your statement that you believe that everyone is essentiall SF>VI>SF>bisexual. SF>VI>I said I believe MOST people are naturally bi. If I had to SF>VI>guessestimate I would say 10% of the population is purely gay or lesbian SF>VI>(meaning they are only attracted to members of the same sex), 10% are SF>VI>purely hetero (meaning they are only attracted to members of the SF>VI>opposite sex). That leaves 80% of the population that feels sexually SF>VI>attracted to BOTH--but not all of the 80% actually ACT on those SF>VI>attractions, mainly because of the effects of homophobia. SF>Interesting guesstimate, which conforms closely with the Kinsey theory. Where do you think I came up with my guessestimate? :) Date: Wednesday, January 7, 1998 10:11pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 743591 To: Kkid Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743562, Reply to #743410, Reply to #743395, R*) (1 reply) KK>SF>KK>SF>KK>are together. There is simply the prohibition of males having KK>SF>KK>sexual KK>SF>KK>SF>KK>intercourse. KK>SF>KK>SF>Do you mean you do not recall that it is written in the Mishnah Bru KK>SF>KK>SF>that two 2 men not sleep in the same bed for fear it might lead to KK>SF>KK>[B>something..... KK>SF>KK>No, I do not recall this. Can you tell me where in the Mishnah Brurah KK>SF>KK>to find it? KK>SF>I honestly do not have a copy here to give you an exact location. KK>As you would say..."very convenient." KK>I can not state that you are wrong. But I do know that a male and female KK>are not permitted to be alone in a room if there is a question of Yichud KK>involved. That problem certainly does not exist among two males. Yichud? What does that mean? KK>I also know that in Europe individuals of the same sex did share the KK>same bed. Perhaps whether they are naked or not would play a role? Well certainly if two people are naked in bed together that would tend to indicate sexual contact. But I would say that if the two individuals kiss or have any form of sexual contact would be the key. Date: Wednesday, January 7, 1998 10:12pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 743592 To: Kkid Re: Created in G*d's image (Reply to #743563, Reply to #743411, Reply to #743396, R*) (1 reply) KK>SF>KK>SF>KK>I am not a biologist. KK>SF>KK>SF>KK>Because you do not remember chosing something does not mean you KK>SF>KK>SF>KK>born with that preference. KK>SF>KK>SF>Same applies to you, by that "logic:. KK>SF>KK>I still have no idea what your point is. KK>SF>If I chose then you chose, and if I did not chose you did not chose. KK>SF>Sexual orientation does not one set of rules for straights, others for KK>SF>gays/lesbians, others for bi's, etc. KK>I think your statement is silly! KK>I guess if one likes having sex with children, or with animals then you KK>claim they were born that way as well? KK>The part I find silly is that you really believe that everyone was KK>created equally. How can you deny that everyone was created equally? Doesn't the Bible say that we are created in G*d's image? Date: Wednesday, January 7, 1998 10:13pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 743593 To: Kkid Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743565, Reply to #743433, Reply to #743398, R*) KK>VI>KK>Now, as to your last comment..."In every case I have encountered KK>if you KK>VI>KK>remind me again what your definition of homophobe is. KK>VI>A[Bomophobe is a person who fears and hates gay or lesbian people. BTW, KK>VI>since I have never meet you IRL I have no idea whether you are a KK>VI>homophobe or not. I was just talking about my personal experience. KK>VI>And in my personal experience, a homophobe is struggling to suppress KK>VI>his/her own homoerotic feelings. KK>Rest assured then, I am not a homophobe. I have no reason to doubt your statement. Date: Thursday, January 8, 1998 8:37am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 743597 To: Steve C Re: B5-The Beginning (Reply to #743571, Reply to #743499) (1 reply) SC>SF>So.....what are you thoughts on the prequal movie? SC>I didn't get a chance to see it. :( SC>I got a file from a friend, who is a big B5 fan, which contains the SC>synopses of "The Gathering" plus all four seasons of B5(with the SC>exception of episode 33:"All Alone in the Night") If you or anyone else SC>is interested I can upload it here. SC> * OLX 2.1 TD * Cats: the ultimate stress reliever. That file sounds great. The movie is being repeated Saturday 1/10 at 8 PM. Have you been watching the 7 PM broadcasts of seasons 1-4? Date: Thursday, January 8, 1998 8:38am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 743598 To: Vida Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743590, Reply to #743558, Reply to #743543, R*) (1 reply) VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>By the way, I don't agree with Ste VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>us it is more or less choose how w VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Actions and orientations are two sepe VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>That goes without saying. I just think VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>g/l/b people argue that they "can't help VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>I never said I can't help being gay, but ra VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>it is simply how I am VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>I'm sure that's what you believe. VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>But I will give you the other reason why I don VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>people don't choose being 'queer". It lets "s VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>hook when you do so. VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>I believe that one of the main origins of homo VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>homoerotic impulses of the homophobe. In ever VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>if you scractch a homophobe you will find a re VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Conversely, could I be a repressed straight? The VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>therapy would have you believe I was. VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>Actually, you may be a repressed bi. I think that's VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>for most people. :) VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>I can honestly say that I absolutely no straight/bi fee VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>thoughts. VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>Can you honestly say that you have NEVER been sexually att VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>female once in your life? VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Wether you wish to believe me or not, the answer is an absolu VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>If that's what you say then why should I doubt you? VI>SF>VI>SF>Based upon your statement that you believe that everyone is essenti VI>SF>VI>SF>bisexual. VI>SF>VI>I said I believe MOST people are naturally bi. If I had to VI>SF>VI>guessestimate I would say 10% of the population is purely gay or lesbi VI>SF>VI>(meaning they are only attracted to members of the same sex), 10% are VI>SF>VI>purely hetero (meaning they are only attracted to members of the VI>SF>VI>opposite sex). That leaves 80% of the population that feels sexually VI>SF>VI>attracted to BOTH--but not all of the 80% actually ACT on those VI>SF>VI>attractions, mainly because of the effects of homophobia. VI>SF>Interesting guesstimate, which conforms closely with the Kinsey theory. VI>Where do you think I came up with my guessestimate? :) He had a rateing scale of 1-6, with 1 absolute straight and 6 absolute gay. I have always thought of myself as a "Kinsey 6". Date: Thursday, January 8, 1998 11:14am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve C Msg#: 743608 To: Steve Flur Re: B5-The Beginning (Reply to #743597, Reply to #743571, Reply to #743499) (1 reply) SF>C>SF>So.....what are you thoughts on the prequal movie? SF>SC>I didn't get a chance to see it. :( SF>SC>I got a file from a friend, who is a big B5 fan, which contains the SF>SC>synopses of "The Gathering" plus all four seasons of B5(with the SF>SC>exception of episode 33:"All Alone in the Night") If you or anyone else SF>SC>is interested I can upload it here. SF>That file sounds great. The movie is being repeated Saturday 1/10 at 8 SF>PM. Have you been watching the 7 PM broadcasts of seasons 1-4? I haven't gotten cable yet (I'm a big time procrastinator) but a friend has said he will record the rebroadcast of the movie for me. I don't know how to attach a file (I use an offline reader) so I'll upload it separately. the file name is b5synope.zip * OLX 2.1 TD * * <-Tribble *\ |--| /* <- Tribble Polavaulting Date: Thursday, January 8, 1998 11:34am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Kkid Msg#: 743612 To: Steve Flur Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743568, Reply to #743563, Reply to #743411, R*) SF>KK>SF>KK>I still have no idea what your point is. SF>KK>SF>If I chose then you chose, and if I did not chose you did not chose. SF>KK>SF>Sexual orientation does not one set of rules for straights, others for SF>KK>SF>gays/lesbians, others for bi's, etc. SF>KK>I think your statement is silly! SF>KK>I guess if one likes having sex with children, or with animals then you SF>KK>claim they were born that way as well? SF>KK>The part I find silly is that you really believe that everyone was SF>KK>created equally. SF>Obviously one cannot maintain a dialogue when the other side chooses to SF>not even make believe they are listening. Amazing how you always come up with a statement similar to the one above when you are stumped or simply have no relevant response. You seem to feel that if someone does not agree with you then that individual has something either wrong with their brain or ears. Date: Thursday, January 8, 1998 11:37am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Kkid Msg#: 743615 To: Vida Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743591, Reply to #743562, Reply to #743410, R*) (1 reply) VI>KK>I can not state that you are wrong. But I do know that a male and female VI>KK>are not permitted to be alone in a room if there is a question of Yichud VI>KK>involved. That problem certainly does not exist among two males. VI>Yichud? What does that mean? A male and female who are not supposed to have sexual relations are not permitted to be in an enclosed room. VI>KK>I also know that in Europe individuals of the same sex did share the VI>KK>same bed. Perhaps whether they are naked or not would play a role? VI>Well certainly if two people are naked in bed together that would tend VI>to indicate sexual contact. But I would say that if the two VI>individuals kiss or have any form of sexual contact would be the key. Male men kiss at almost every simcha that I can think of. Certainly at weddings. Date: Thursday, January 8, 1998 11:50am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 743622 To: Steve C Re: B5-The Beginning (Reply to #743608, Reply to #743597, Reply to #743571, R*) (1 reply) SC>SF>C>SF>So.....what are you thoughts on the prequal movie? SC>SF>SC>I didn't get a chance to see it. :( SC>SF>SC>I got a file from a friend, who is a big B5 fan, which contains the SC>SF>SC>synopses of "The Gathering" plus all four seasons of B5(with the SC>SF>SC>exception of episode 33:"All Alone in the Night") If you or anyone els SC>SF>SC>is interested I can upload it here. SC>SF>That file sounds great. The movie is being repeated Saturday 1/10 at 8 SC>SF>PM. Have you been watching the 7 PM broadcasts of seasons 1-4? SC>I haven't gotten cable yet (I'm a big time procrastinator) but a friend SC>has said he will record the rebroadcast of the movie for me. SC>I don't know how to attach a file (I use an offline reader) so I'll SC>upload it separately. the file name is b5synope.zip SC> * OLX 2.1 TD * * <-Tribble *\ |--| /* <- Tribble Polavaulting Thank you for the file name. You said months ago you were getting cable in time not to miss B5, so what happened? Date: Friday, January 9, 1998 2:01am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 743651 To: Steve Flur Re: Kinsey (Reply to #743598, Reply to #743590, Reply to #743558, R*) (1 reply) SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>By the way, I don't agree with SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>us it is more or less choose ho SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Actions and orientations are two s SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>That goes without saying. I just thi SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>g/l/b people argue that they "can't h SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>I never said I can't help being gay, but SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>it is simply how I am SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>I'm sure that's what you believe. SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>But I will give you the other reason why I SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>people don't choose being 'queer". It lets SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>hook when you do so. SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>I believe that one of the main origins of h SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>homoerotic impulses of the homophobe. In e SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>if you scractch a homophobe you will find a SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Conversely, could I be a repressed straight? T SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>therapy would have you believe I was. SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>Actually, you may be a repressed bi. I think tha SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>for most people. :) SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>I can honestly say that I absolutely no straight/bi SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>thoughts. SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>Can you honestly say that you have NEVER been sexually SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>female once in your life? SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Wether you wish to believe me or not, the answer is an abs SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>If that's what you say then why should I doubt you? SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Based upon your statement that you believe that everyone is esse SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>bisexual. SF>VI>SF>VI>I said I believe MOST people are naturally bi. If I had to SF>VI>SF>VI>guessestimate I would say 10% of the population is purely gay or le SF>VI>SF>VI>(meaning they are only attracted to members of the same sex), 10% a SF>VI>SF>VI>purely hetero (meaning they are only attracted to members of the SF>VI>SF>VI>opposite sex). That leaves 80% of the population that feels sexual SF>VI>SF>VI>attracted to BOTH--but not all of the 80% actually ACT on those SF>VI>SF>VI>attractions, mainly because of the effects of homophobia. SF>VI>SF>Interesting guesstimate, which conforms closely with the Kinsey theory SF>VI>Where do you think I came up with my guessestimate? :) SF>He had a rateing scale of 1-6, with 1 absolute straight and 6 absolute SF>gay. I have always thought of myself as a "Kinsey 6". Yes. And I think the rating scale was pretty acurate. I can't remember the precise breakdown as to what number means what. I figure that I am more lesbian than heteo but that I obviously don't qualify as a Kinsey 6. Date: Friday, January 9, 1998 2:05am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 743652 To: Kkid Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743615, Reply to #743591, Reply to #743562, R*) (1 reply) KK>VI>KK>I can not state that you are wrong. But I do know that a male and fema KK>VI>KK>are not permitted to be alone in a room if there is a question of Yich KK>VI>KK>involved. That problem certainly does not exist among two males. KK>VI>Yichud? What does that mean? KK>A male and female who are not supposed to have sexual relations are not KK>permitted to be in an enclosed room. I assume that you mean in a one on one situation. So does that mean that a man is not allowed to be inside a room with a closed door alone with a woman not his wife under traditional Jewish law? KK>VI>KK>I also know that in Europe individuals of the same sex did share the KK>VI>KK>same bed. Perhaps whether they are naked or not would play a role? KK>VI>Well certainly if two people are naked in bed together that would tend KK>VI>to indicate sexual contact. But I would say that if the two KK>VI>individuals kiss or have any form of sexual contact would be the key. KK>Male men kiss at almost every simcha that I can think of. KK>Certainly at weddings. Interesting! :) But you don't mean kiss on the lips, do you? To me kissing on the lips is something I only do in a sexual context. Date: Friday, January 9, 1998 9:34am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 743663 To: Vida Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743651, Reply to #743598, Reply to #743590, R*) (1 reply) VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>By the way, I don't agree wi VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>us it is more or less choose VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Actions and orientations are tw VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>That goes without saying. I just VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>g/l/b people argue that they "can' VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>I never said I can't help being gay, VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>it is simply how I am VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>I'm sure that's what you believe. VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>But I will give you the other reason why VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>people don't choose being 'queer". It l VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>hook when you do so. VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>I believe that one of the main origins o VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>homoerotic impulses of the homophobe. I VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>if you scractch a homophobe you will fin VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Conversely, could I be a repressed straight VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>therapy would have you believe I was. VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>Actually, you may be a repressed bi. I think VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>for most people. :) VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>I can honestly say that I absolutely no straight/ VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>thoughts. VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>Can you honestly say that you have NEVER been sexual VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>female once in your life? VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Wether you wish to believe me or not, the answer is an VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>If that's what you say then why should I doubt you? VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Based upon your statement that you believe that everyone is e VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>bisexual. VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>I said I believe MOST people are naturally bi. If I had to VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>guessestimate I would say 10% of the population is purely gay or VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>(meaning they are only attracted to members of the same sex), 10 VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>purely hetero (meaning they are only attracted to members of the VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>opposite sex). That leaves 80% of the population that feels sex VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>attracted to BOTH--but not all of the 80% actually ACT on those VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>attractions, mainly because of the effects of homophobia. VI>SF>VI>SF>Interesting guesstimate, which conforms closely with the Kinsey the VI>SF>VI>Where do you think I came up with my guessestimate? :) VI>SF>He had a rateing scale of 1-6, with 1 absolute straight and 6 absolute VI>SF>gay. I have always thought of myself as a "Kinsey 6". VI>Yes. And I think the rating scale was pretty acurate. I can't remember VI>the precise breakdown as to what number means what. I figure that I VI>am more lesbian than heteo but that I obviously don't qualify as a VI>Kinsey 6. Based upon what you tell me, there is no doubt that you are not a Kinsey 6. Date: Friday, January 9, 1998 3:59pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 743688 To: Steve Flur Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743663, Reply to #743651, Reply to #743598, R*) (1 reply) SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>By the way, I don't agree SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>us it is more or less cho SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Actions and orientations are SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>That goes without saying. I ju SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>g/l/b people argue that they "c SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>I never said I can't help being ga SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>it is simply how I am SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>I'm sure that's what you believe. SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>But I will give you the other reason SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>people don't choose being 'queer". I SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>hook when you do so. SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>I believe that one of the main origin SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>homoerotic impulses of the homophobe. SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>if you scractch a homophobe you will SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Conversely, could I be a repressed strai SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>therapy would have you believe I was. SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>Actually, you may be a repressed bi. I thi SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>for most people. :) SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>I can honestly say that I absolutely no straig SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>thoughts. SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>Can you honestly say that you have NEVER been sex SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>female once in your life? SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Wether you wish to believe me or not, the answer is SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>If that's what you say then why should I doubt you? SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Based upon your statement that you believe that everyone i SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>bisexual. SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>I said I believe MOST people are naturally bi. If I had to SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>guessestimate I would say 10% of the population is purely gay SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>(meaning they are only attracted to members of the same sex), SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>purely hetero (meaning they are only attracted to members of SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>opposite sex). That leaves 80% of the population that feels SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>attracted to BOTH--but not all of the 80% actually ACT on tho SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>attractions, mainly because of the effects of homophobia. SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Interesting guesstimate, which conforms closely with the Kinsey SF>VI>SF>VI>Where do you think I came up with my guessestimate? :) SF>VI>SF>He had a rateing scale of 1-6, with 1 absolute straight and 6 absolute SF>VI>SF>gay. I have always thought of myself as a "Kinsey 6". SF>VI>Yes. And I think the rating scale was pretty acurate. I can't remember SF>VI>the precise breakdown as to what number means what. I figure that I SF>VI>am more lesbian than heteo but that I obviously don't qualify as a SF>VI>Kinsey 6. SF>Based upon what you tell me, there is no doubt that you are not a Kinsey SF>6. How could I be? I have had male lovers before I came out. And I have now a male lover AFTER I came out! Date: Monday, January 12, 1998 1:24pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve C Msg#: 743737 To: Steve Flur Re: B5-The Beginning (Reply to #743622, Reply to #743608, Reply to #743597, R*) (1 reply) SF>SC>SF>That file sounds great. The movie is being repeated Saturday 1/10 at 8 SF>SC>SF>PM. Have you been watching the 7 PM broadcasts of seasons 1-4? SF>SC>I haven't gotten cable yet (I'm a big time procrastinator) but a friend SF>SC>has said he will record the rebroadcast of the movie for me. SF>SC>I don't know how to attach a file (I use an offline reader) so I'll SF>SC>upload it separately. the file name is b5synope.zip SF>Thank you for the file name. You said months ago you were getting cable SF>in time not to miss B5, so what happened? Long story.... My assistant at work went on maternity leave, her replacement was incompetent(so I couldn't take any time off), and my weekends were too busy to stay home wating for the cable guy. Perhaps I'll have it before the season 5 episodes air on weekdays which should be about the end of April :) * OLX 2.1 TD * No love is sincerer than the Katamits' love of Mankind. Date: Monday, January 12, 1998 2:13pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Kkid Msg#: 743746 To: Vida Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743652, Reply to #743615, Reply to #743591, R*) (1 reply) VI>KK>VI>Yichud? What does that mean? VI>KK>A male and female who are not supposed to have sexual relations are not VI>KK>permitted to be in an enclosed room. VI>I assume that you mean in a one on one situation. So does that mean VI>that a man is not allowed to be inside a room with a closed door alone VI>with a woman not his wife under traditional Jewish law? Correct. VI>KK>VI>KK>I also know that in Europe individuals of the same sex did share th VI>KK>VI>KK>same bed. Perhaps whether they are naked or not would play a role? VI>KK>VI>Well certainly if two people are naked in bed together that would tend VI>KK>VI>to indicate sexual contact. But I would say that if the two VI>KK>VI>individuals kiss or have any form of sexual contact would be the key. VI>KK>Male men kiss at almost every simcha that I can think of. VI>KK>Certainly at weddings. VI>Interesting! :) But you don't mean kiss on the lips, do you? To me VI>kissing on the lips is something I only do in a sexual context. VI> Hmmm...I'll have to watch closely next time :-) Date: Monday, January 12, 1998 3:07pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 743751 To: Vida Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743688, Reply to #743663, Reply to #743651, R*) (1 reply) VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>By the way, I don't ag VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>us it is more or less VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Actions and orientations VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>That goes without saying. I VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>g/l/b people argue that they VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>I never said I can't help being VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>it is simply how I am VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>I'm sure that's what you believe. VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>But I will give you the other reas VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>people don't choose being 'queer". VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>hook when you do so. VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>I believe that one of the main ori VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>homoerotic impulses of the homopho VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>if you scractch a homophobe you wi VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Conversely, could I be a repressed st VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>therapy would have you believe I was. VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>Actually, you may be a repressed bi. I VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>for most people. :) VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>I can honestly say that I absolutely no str VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>thoughts. VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>Can you honestly say that you have NEVER been VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>female once in your life? VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Wether you wish to believe me or not, the answer VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>If that's what you say then why should I doubt you? VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Based upon your statement that you believe that everyon VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>bisexual. VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>I said I believe MOST people are naturally bi. If I had t VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>guessestimate I would say 10% of the population is purely VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>(meaning they are only attracted to members of the same se VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>purely hetero (meaning they are only attracted to members VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>opposite sex). That leaves 80% of the population that fee VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>attracted to BOTH--but not all of the 80% actually ACT on VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>attractions, mainly because of the effects of homophobia. VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Interesting guesstimate, which conforms closely with the Kins VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>Where do you think I came up with my guessestimate? :) VI>SF>VI>SF>He had a rateing scale of 1-6, with 1 absolute straight and 6 absol VI>SF>VI>SF>gay. I have always thought of myself as a "Kinsey 6". VI>SF>VI>Yes. And I think the rating scale was pretty acurate. I can't rememb VI>SF>VI>the precise breakdown as to what number means what. I figure that I VI>SF>VI>am more lesbian than heteo but that I obviously don't qualify as a VI>SF>VI>Kinsey 6. VI>SF>Based upon what you tell me, there is no doubt that you are not a Kinsey VI>SF>6. VI>How could I be? I have had male lovers before I came out. And I have VI>now a male lover AFTER I came out! I rest my case! Date: Monday, January 12, 1998 3:08pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 743752 To: Steve C Re: B5-The Beginning (Reply to #743737, Reply to #743622, Reply to #743608, R*) (1 reply) SC>SF>SC>SF>That file sounds great. The movie is being repeated Saturday 1/10 a SC>SF>SC>SF>PM. Have you been watching the 7 PM broadcasts of seasons 1-4? SC>SF>SC>I haven't gotten cable yet (I'm a big time procrastinator) but a frien SC>SF>SC>has said he will record the rebroadcast of the movie for me. SC>SF>SC>I don't know how to attach a file (I use an offline reader) so I'll SC>SF>SC>upload it separately. the file name is b5synope.zip SC>SF>Thank you for the file name. You said months ago you were getting cable SC>SF>in time not to miss B5, so what happened? SC>Long story.... SC>My assistant at work went on maternity leave, her replacement was SC>incompetent(so I couldn't take any time off), and my weekends were too SC>busy to stay home wating for the cable guy. SC>Perhaps I'll have it before the season 5 episodes air on weekdays which SC>should be about the end of April :) SC> * OLX 2.1 TD * No love is sincerer than the Katamits' love of Mankind. At 5 shows a week, seasons 1-4 should be done before April. Date: Tuesday, January 13, 1998 5:49am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 743767 To: Kkid Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743746, Reply to #743652, Reply to #743615, R*) KK>VI>KK>VI>Yichud? What does that mean? KK>VI>KK>A male and female who are not supposed to have sexual relations are no KK>VI>KK>permitted to be in an enclosed room. KK>VI>I assume that you mean in a one on one situation. So does that mean KK>VI>that a man is not allowed to be inside a room with a closed door alone KK>VI>with a woman not his wife under traditional Jewish law? KK>Correct. I never knew that. I most say it seems very extreme to me. But if you want to absoultely insure that a man is not going to have sex with anyone other than his wife, I guess that's one way to do it. KK>VI>KK>VI>KK>I also know that in Europe individuals of the same sex did share KK>VI>KK>VI>KK>same bed. Perhaps whether they are naked or not would play a rol KK>VI>KK>VI>Well certainly if two people are naked in bed together that would t KK>VI>KK>VI>to indicate sexual contact. But I would say that if the two KK>VI>KK>VI>individuals kiss or have any form of sexual contact would be the ke KK>VI>KK>Male men kiss at almost every simcha that I can think of. KK>VI>KK>Certainly at weddings. KK>VI>Interesting! :) But you don't mean kiss on the lips, do you? To me KK>VI>kissing on the lips is something I only do in a sexual context. KK>VI> KK>Hmmm...I'll have to watch closely next time :-) I think I would be the better judge of that. :) Date: Tuesday, January 13, 1998 5:51am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 743768 To: Steve Flur Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743751, Reply to #743688, Reply to #743663, R*) SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>By the way, I don't SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>us it is more or le SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Actions and orientatio SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>That goes without saying. SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>g/l/b people argue that t SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>I never said I can't help be SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>it is simply how I am SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>I'm sure that's what you believ SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>But I will give you the other r SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>people don't choose being 'quee SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>hook when you do so. SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>I believe that one of the main SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>homoerotic impulses of the homo SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>if you scractch a homophobe you SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Conversely, could I be a repressed SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>therapy would have you believe I w SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>Actually, you may be a repressed bi. SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>for most people. :) SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>I can honestly say that I absolutely no SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>thoughts. SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>Can you honestly say that you have NEVER be SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>female once in your life? SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Wether you wish to believe me or not, the answ SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>If that's what you say then why should I doubt yo SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Based upon your statement that you believe that ever SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>bisexual. SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>I said I believe MOST people are naturally bi. If I ha SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>guessestimate I would say 10% of the population is pure SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>(meaning they are only attracted to members of the same SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>purely hetero (meaning they are only attracted to membe SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>opposite sex). That leaves 80% of the population that SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>attracted to BOTH--but not all of the 80% actually ACT SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>attractions, mainly because of the effects of homophobi SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>Interesting guesstimate, which conforms closely with the K SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>VI>Where do you think I came up with my guessestimate? :) SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>He had a rateing scale of 1-6, with 1 absolute straight and 6 ab SF>VI>SF>VI>SF>gay. I have always thought of myself as a "Kinsey 6". SF>VI>SF>VI>Yes. And I think the rating scale was pretty acurate. I can't rem SF>VI>SF>VI>the precise breakdown as to what number means what. I figure that SF>VI>SF>VI>am more lesbian than heteo but that I obviously don't qualify as a SF>VI>SF>VI>Kinsey 6. SF>VI>SF>Based upon what you tell me, there is no doubt that you are not a Kins SF>VI>SF>6. SF>VI>How could I be? I have had male lovers before I came out. And I have SF>VI>now a male lover AFTER I came out! SF>I rest my case! There was no case to rest. One of the reasons why I never became a lesbian seperatist, even in more most extreme militant feminist phase, was because I never claimed to be 100% totally pure lesbian. Date: Tuesday, January 13, 1998 6:25pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve C Msg#: 743784 To: Steve Flur Re: B5-The Beginning (Reply to #743752, Reply to #743737, Reply to #743622, R*) (1 reply) SF>SC>Long story.... SF>SC>My assistant at work went on maternity leave, her replacement was SF>SC>incompetent(so I couldn't take any time off), and my weekends were too SF>SC>busy to stay home wating for the cable guy. SF>SC>Perhaps I'll have it before the season 5 episodes air on weekdays which SF>SC>should be about the end of April :) SF>At 5 shows a week, seasons 1-4 should be done before April. Not really there are 85 episodes in the first 4 seasons, figuring about 21 episodes per month it should finish either the last week in April or the beginning of May. * OLX 2.1 TD * Those rowing the boat usually don't have time to rock it. Date: Wednesday, January 14, 1998 9:34am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 743792 To: Steve C Re: B5-The Beginning (Reply to #743784, Reply to #743752, Reply to #743737, R*) (1 reply) SC>SF>SC>Long story.... SC>SF>SC>My assistant at work went on maternity leave, her replacement was SC>SF>SC>incompetent(so I couldn't take any time off), and my weekends were too SC>SF>SC>busy to stay home wating for the cable guy. SC>SF>SC>Perhaps I'll have it before the season 5 episodes air on weekdays whic SC>SF>SC>should be about the end of April :) SC>SF>At 5 shows a week, seasons 1-4 should be done before April. SC>Not really there are 85 episodes in the first 4 seasons, figuring about SC>21 episodes per month it should finish either the last week in April or SC>the beginning of May. SC> * OLX 2.1 TD * Those rowing the boat usually don't have time to rock it. I just say an ad on TNT last night during the B5 broadcast that said that season 5 will premier next Wednesday January 21st. Date: Wednesday, January 14, 1998 3:33pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve C Msg#: 743796 To: Steve Flur Re: B5-The Beginning (Reply to #743792, Reply to #743784, Reply to #743752, R*) (1 reply) SF>SC>SF>SC>Perhaps I'll have it before the season 5 episodes air on weekdays w SF>SC>SF>SC>should be about the end of April :) SF>SC>SF>At 5 shows a week, seasons 1-4 should be done before April. SF>SC>Not really there are 85 episodes in the first 4 seasons, figuring about SF>SC>21 episodes per month it should finish either the last week in April or SF>SC>the beginning of May. SF>I just say an ad on TNT last night during the B5 broadcast that said SF>that season 5 will premier next Wednesday January 21st. Those are the first run showings, I was refering to the syndication package that plays Monday through Friday. When season 4 finishes they will be going into season 5 * OLX 2.1 TD * I am a fugitive from the law of averages. Date: Thursday, January 15, 1998 8:37am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 743818 To: Steve C Re: B5-The Beginning (Reply to #743796, Reply to #743792, Reply to #743784, R*) (1 reply) SC>SF>SC>SF>SC>Perhaps I'll have it before the season 5 episodes air on weekday SC>SF>SC>SF>SC>should be about the end of April :) SC>SF>SC>SF>At 5 shows a week, seasons 1-4 should be done before April. SC>SF>SC>Not really there are 85 episodes in the first 4 seasons, figuring abou SC>SF>SC>21 episodes per month it should finish either the last week in April o SC>SF>SC>the beginning of May. SC>SF>I just say an ad on TNT last night during the B5 broadcast that said SC>SF>that season 5 will premier next Wednesday January 21st. SC>Those are the first run showings, I was refering to the syndication SC>package that plays Monday through Friday. SC>When season 4 finishes they will be going into season 5 SC> * OLX 2.1 TD * I am a fugitive from the law of averages. If season 5 starts next Wednesday that means it begins before 1-4 are finished their broadcast. Date: Thursday, January 15, 1998 6:23pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve C Msg#: 743830 To: Steve Flur Re: B5-The Beginning (Reply to #743818, Reply to #743796, Reply to #743792, R*) (1 reply) SF>SC>SF>I just say an ad on TNT last night during the B5 broadcast that said SF>SC>SF>that season 5 will premier next Wednesday January 21st. SF>SC>Those are the first run showings, I was refering to the syndication SF>SC>package that plays Monday through Friday. SF>SC>When season 4 finishes they will be going into season 5 SF>If season 5 starts next Wednesday that means it begins before 1-4 are SF>finished their broadcast. There are two different showings on TNT. There is the Monday through Friday showing which will be all 5 seasons in order, 5 episodes per week. Then there is the additional wednesday only showing which is season 5 one episode per week. * OLX 2.1 TD * Warning: PCB is addictive and disorienting. Date: Friday, January 16, 1998 10:15am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 743874 To: Steve C Re: B5-The Beginning (Reply to #743830, Reply to #743818, Reply to #743796, R*) (1 reply) SC>SF>SC>SF>I just say an ad on TNT last night during the B5 broadcast that sai SC>SF>SC>SF>that season 5 will premier next Wednesday January 21st. SC>SF>SC>Those are the first run showings, I was refering to the syndication SC>SF>SC>package that plays Monday through Friday. SC>SF>SC>When season 4 finishes they will be going into season 5 SC>SF>If season 5 starts next Wednesday that means it begins before 1-4 are SC>SF>finished their broadcast. SC>There are two different showings on TNT. SC>There is the Monday through Friday showing which will be all 5 seasons SC>in order, 5 episodes per week. Then there is the additional wednesday SC>only showing which is season 5 one episode per week. SC> * OLX 2.1 TD * Warning: PCB is addictive and disorienting. Which means you are missing everything by not having cable. Date: Friday, January 16, 1998 4:34pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve C Msg#: 743879 To: Steve Flur Re: B5-The Beginning (Reply to #743874, Reply to #743830, Reply to #743818, R*) (1 reply) SF>SC>SF>If season 5 starts next Wednesday that means it begins before 1-4 are SF>SC>SF>finished their broadcast. SF>SC>There are two different showings on TNT. SF>SC>There is the Monday through Friday showing which will be all 5 seasons SF>SC>in order, 5 episodes per week. Then there is the additional wednesday SF>SC>only showing which is season 5 one episode per week. SF>Which means you are missing everything by not having cable. 4 simple answers... 1) A friend is going to tape the season 5 episodes till I get my cable installed 2) There is still time for me to get cable before the whole shebang repeats in the summer. 3) Its only a TV show. If I miss a few episodes it won't kill me :) 4) The Lurkers Guide web site has synopses for all episodes so If I miss one and really need a recap, I can log on there and download it. * OLX 2.1 TD * Why shouldn't I set my coffee by the keyboarrrrrr Date: Tuesday, January 20, 1998 10:32am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 743959 To: Steve C Re: B5-The Beginning (Reply to #743879, Reply to #743874, Reply to #743830, R*) (1 reply) SC>SF>SC>SF>If season 5 starts next Wednesday that means it begins before 1-4 a SC>SF>SC>SF>finished their broadcast. SC>SF>SC>There are two different showings on TNT. SC>SF>SC>There is the Monday through Friday showing which will be all 5 seasons SC>SF>SC>in order, 5 episodes per week. Then there is the additional wednesday SC>SF>SC>only showing which is season 5 one episode per week. SC>SF>Which means you are missing everything by not having cable. SC>4 simple answers... SC>1) A friend is going to tape the season 5 episodes till I get my cable SC>installed SC>2) There is still time for me to get cable before the whole shebang SC>repeats in the summer. SC>3) Its only a TV show. If I miss a few episodes it won't kill me :) SC>4) The Lurkers Guide web site has synopses for all episodes so If I miss SC>one and really need a recap, I can log on there and download it. SC> * OLX 2.1 TD * Why shouldn't I set my coffee by the keyboarrrrrr True, it is only a TV show, but as we both know it is a GOOD TV show, and a synnopsis is not the same as watching the actual action. Date: Wednesday, January 21, 1998 1:19pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve C Msg#: 744030 To: Steve Flur Re: B5-The Beginning (Reply to #743959, Reply to #743879, Reply to #743874, R*) (1 reply) SF>SC>SF>Which means you are missing everything by not having cable. SF>SC>4 simple answers... SF>SC>1) A friend is going to tape the season 5 episodes till I get my cable SF>SC>installed SF>True, it is only a TV show, but as we both know it is a GOOD TV show, SF>and a synnopsis is not the same as watching the actual action. Steve, if you had read my reply you would have seen that I will be seeing the episodes. A friend will tape them on Wednesday and give them to me on the next weekend, so I'll only be 3 or 4 days behind. * OLX 2.1 TD * I pledge allegiance to the flag as set by 'attrib +a' Date: Wednesday, January 21, 1998 2:45pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 744035 To: Steve C Re: B5-The Beginning (Reply to #744030, Reply to #743959, Reply to #743879, R*) (1 reply) SC>SF>SC>SF>Which means you are missing everything by not having cable. SC>SF>SC>4 simple answers... SC>SF>SC>1) A friend is going to tape the season 5 episodes till I get my cable SC>SF>SC>installed SC>SF>True, it is only a TV show, but as we both know it is a GOOD TV show, SC>SF>and a synnopsis is not the same as watching the actual action. SC>Steve, if you had read my reply you would have seen that I will be SC>seeing the episodes. SC>A friend will tape them on Wednesday and give them to me on the next SC>weekend, so I'll only be 3 or 4 days behind. SC> * OLX 2.1 TD * I pledge allegiance to the flag as set by 'attrib +a' Have you seen a tape of the prequal movie, The Beginning? Date: Thursday, January 22, 1998 5:46pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve C Msg#: 744056 To: Steve Flur Re: B5-The Beginning (Reply to #744035, Reply to #744030, Reply to #743959, R*) (1 reply) SF>Have you seen a tape of the prequal movie, The Beginning? Not yet :( * OLX 2.1 TD * The harder you press the keys, the brighter the letters. Date: Friday, January 23, 1998 2:50am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Conundrum Msg#: 744090 To: Vida Re: B5 (Reply to #730569, Reply to #730556, Reply to #730051, R*) (2 replies) VI>CO>Also, since you are on the net, why not try the Lurker's Guide? VI>Lurker's Guide sounds like an interesting site for me to investigate. VI>Do you have the url? If you don't have it by now, just Yahoo for it. But given that the show is now playing start->finish on TNT, that may not be necessary. Date: Friday, January 23, 1998 2:52am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Conundrum Msg#: 744091 To: Steve Flur Re: star trek (Reply to #730670, Reply to #730553, Reply to #723555, R*) (1 reply) SF>CO>SF>CO>Well, that's the problem. ON the other hand, with something like B SF>CO>SF>CO>where the story has actual progression and change (especially this SF>CO>SF>CO>season -- whoa boy), it's a lot harder to forget. SF>CO>SF>And your opinion of this season is? SF>CO>With a few minor problems (and unfortunately quite a few writing SF>CO>problems -- JMS needs to let someone else write some episodes for a SF>CO>change, methinks), still very, very good. SF>And the minor problems are....... Some cheasy dialogue (One shining light of my existance, my ass!), some messy/clumsy plot twists, but aside from that... Date: Friday, January 23, 1998 2:52am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Conundrum Msg#: 744092 To: Steve Flur Re: B5 (Reply to #730671, Reply to #730554, Reply to #724211, R*) (1 reply) SF>I will be disappointed if he does not get the 5 years he planned. Well, he got 'em. Happy? Date: Friday, January 23, 1998 3:08am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Conundrum Msg#: 744093 To: Vida Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743242, Reply to #743224, Reply to #743212, R*) (1 reply) Lythande, Ed, help! Pleasepleaasepleaseplease... get the @#*$(#$ homosexuality debate out of SF! Date: Friday, January 23, 1998 3:12am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Conundrum Msg#: 744094 To: Steve Flur Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #743568, Reply to #743563, Reply to #743411, R*) (more than a screenful of quotes deleted) Look, people, could you please, please, please try to trim your quotes to an absolute minimum? There should NOT be more than 4 or 6 lines of quotes before your first original comment, if that -- it's rude. Date: Friday, January 23, 1998 6:17am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Vida Msg#: 744096 To: Conundrum Re: B5 (Reply to #744090, Reply to #730569, Reply to #730556, R*) (1 reply) CO>VI>CO>Also, since you are on the net, why not try the Lurker's Guide? CO>VI>Lurker's Guide sounds like an interesting site for me to investigate. CO>VI>Do you have the url? CO>If you don't have it by now, just Yahoo for it. CO>But given that the show is now playing start->finish on TNT, that may CO>not be necessary. Yes, but I have previously posted about my tales of woe in vido taping land. :( Date: Friday, January 23, 1998 9:12am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 744100 To: Steve C Re: B5-The Beginning (Reply to #744056, Reply to #744035, Reply to #744030, R*) (1 reply) SC>SF>Have you seen a tape of the prequal movie, The Beginning? SC>Not yet :( SC> * OLX 2.1 TD * The harder you press the keys, the brighter the letters. Then I will not spoil the story nor episode 1 of season 5 I saw on Wednesday. Date: Friday, January 23, 1998 9:13am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 744101 To: Conundrum Re: star trek (Reply to #744091, Reply to #730670, Reply to #730553, R*) (1 reply) CO>SF>CO>SF>CO>Well, that's the problem. ON the other hand, with something lik CO>SF>CO>SF>CO>where the story has actual progression and change (especially th CO>SF>CO>SF>CO>season -- whoa boy), it's a lot harder to forget. CO>SF>CO>SF>And your opinion of this season is? CO>SF>CO>With a few minor problems (and unfortunately quite a few writing CO>SF>CO>problems -- JMS needs to let someone else write some episodes for a CO>SF>CO>change, methinks), still very, very good. CO>SF>And the minor problems are....... CO>Some cheasy dialogue (One shining light of my existance, my ass!), some CO>messy/clumsy plot twists, but aside from that... Not sufficient to prevent enjoyable viewing. Date: Friday, January 23, 1998 9:14am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 744102 To: Conundrum Re: B5 (Reply to #744092, Reply to #730671, Reply to #730554, R*) CO>SF>I will be disappointed if he does not get the 5 years he planned. CO>Well, he got 'em. CO>Happy? Between the prequal movie and season 5 that just started, and the sequential reshowing of seasons 1-4, I am not complaining. Date: Friday, January 23, 1998 5:55pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve C Msg#: 744116 To: Steve Flur Re: B5-The Beginning (Reply to #744100, Reply to #744056, Reply to #744035, R*) (2 replies) SF>C>SF>Have you seen a tape of the prequal movie, The Beginning? SF>SC>Not yet :( SF>Then I will not spoil the story nor episode 1 of season 5 I saw on SF>Wednesday. Thanks, I appreciate that, but if you want to post something to someone else about it just put !!!Spoiler Alert!!! as the first line and anyone who hasn't been up to date on their viewing can just skip that episode. * OLX 2.1 TD * I am Fudd of the Borg. Pwepawe to be assimiwated. heheheh Date: Monday, January 26, 1998 10:49am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Sysop Msg#: 744187 To: Conundrum Re: DS9/Voyager (Reply to #744093, Reply to #743242, Reply to #743224, R*) CO>Lythande, Ed, help! CO>Pleasepleaasepleaseplease... CO>get the @#*$(#$ homosexuality debate out of SF! Well, I'm almost caught up in all of the forums. Once I am current, I will start moving things. Many of the forums are a mess, lots of off topic stuff all over the place. Date: Monday, January 26, 1998 11:31am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 744191 To: Steve C Re: B5-The Beginning (Reply to #744116, Reply to #744100, Reply to #744056, R*) (1 reply) SC>SF>C>SF>Have you seen a tape of the prequal movie, The Beginning? SC>SF>SC>Not yet :( SC>SF>Then I will not spoil the story nor episode 1 of season 5 I saw on SC>SF>Wednesday. SC>Thanks, I appreciate that, but if you want to post something to someone SC>else about it just put !!!Spoiler Alert!!! as the first line and anyone SC>who hasn't been up to date on their viewing can just skip that episode. SC> * OLX 2.1 TD * I am Fudd of the Borg. Pwepawe to be assimiwated. heheheh From the messages here you are it so it appears our discussion must wait. Date: Tuesday, January 27, 1998 3:40pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve C Msg#: 744238 To: Steve Flur Re: B5-The Beginning (Reply to #744191, Reply to #744116, Reply to #744100, R*) (1 reply) SF>SC>SF>Then I will not spoil the story nor episode 1 of season 5 I saw on SF>SC>SF>Wednesday. SF>SC>Thanks, I appreciate that, but if you want to post something to someone SF>SC>else about it just put !!!Spoiler Alert!!! as the first line and anyone SF>SC>who hasn't been up to date on their viewing can just skip that episode. SF>From the messages here you are it so it appears our discussion must SF>wait. Ok, Thanks. :) * OLX 2.1 TD * "No, I said Bud Light!" - Captain of the Hindenburg Date: Wednesday, January 28, 1998 9:47am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 744286 To: Steve C Re: B5-The Beginning (Reply to #744238, Reply to #744191, Reply to #744116, R*) (1 reply) SC>SF>SC>SF>Then I will not spoil the story nor episode 1 of season 5 I saw on SC>SF>SC>SF>Wednesday. SC>SF>SC>Thanks, I appreciate that, but if you want to post something to someon SC>SF>SC>else about it just put !!!Spoiler Alert!!! as the first line and anyon SC>SF>SC>who hasn't been up to date on their viewing can just skip that episode SC>SF>From the messages here you are it so it appears our discussion must SC>SF>wait. SC>Ok, Thanks. :) SC> * OLX 2.1 TD * "No, I said Bud Light!" - Captain of the Hindenburg Just give a holler when you either a) see a video or b) get cable. Date: Thursday, January 29, 1998 5:54pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve C Msg#: 744332 To: Steve Flur Re: B5-The Beginning (Reply to #744286, Reply to #744238, Reply to #744191, R*) (1 reply) SF>SC>SF>From the messages here you are it so it appears our discussion must SF>SC>SF>wait. SF>SC>Ok, Thanks. :) SF>Just give a holler when you either a) see a video or b) get cable. Ok, you've got it. * OLX 2.1 TD * PC Police. Assume the correct position. - P. Greenberger Date: Friday, January 30, 1998 1:47am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Conundrum Msg#: 744352 To: Vida Re: B5 (Reply to #744096, Reply to #744090, Reply to #730569, R*) And they are? Date: Friday, January 30, 1998 1:48am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Conundrum Msg#: 744353 To: Steve Flur Re: star trek (Reply to #744101, Reply to #744091, Reply to #730670, R*) (1 reply) SF>CO>Some cheasy dialogue (One shining light of my existance, my ass!), some SF>CO>messy/clumsy plot twists, but aside from that... SF>Not sufficient to prevent enjoyable viewing. Certainly not. But...enough to be worth commenting on. Date: Friday, January 30, 1998 1:51am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Conundrum Msg#: 744354 To: Steve C Re: B5-The Beginning (Reply to #744116, Reply to #744100, Reply to #744056, R*) (1 reply) SC>Thanks, I appreciate that, but if you want to post something to someone SC>else about it just put !!!Spoiler Alert!!! as the first line and anyone SC>who hasn't been up to date on their viewing can just skip that episode. Ik. Just putting Spoiler Alert is utterly useless; they can't tell what it's a spoiler alert for without reading it. At the very least, you should stick a blank page or two, and at the top of the blank, a spoiler alert and the title of the show (putting babylon five somewhere in there would help too). Date: Friday, January 30, 1998 12:46pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 744365 To: Steve C Re: B5-The Beginning (Reply to #744332, Reply to #744286, Reply to #744238, R*) (1 reply) SC>SF>SC>SF>From the messages here you are it so it appears our discussion must SC>SF>SC>SF>wait. SC>SF>SC>Ok, Thanks. :) SC>SF>Just give a holler when you either a) see a video or b) get cable. SC>Ok, you've got it. SC> * OLX 2.1 TD * PC Police. Assume the correct position. - P. Greenberger Hopefully before the millenium! Date: Friday, January 30, 1998 12:47pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 744366 To: Conundrum Re: star trek (Reply to #744353, Reply to #744101, Reply to #744091, R*) (1 reply) CO>SF>CO>Some cheasy dialogue (One shining light of my existance, my ass!), CO>some CO>SF>CO>messy/clumsy plot twists, but aside from that... CO>SF>Not sufficient to prevent enjoyable viewing. CO>Certainly not. CO>But...enough to be worth commenting on. Any opinion on the prequal movie and the newest season? Date: Friday, January 30, 1998 2:57pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve C Msg#: 744376 To: Conundrum Re: B5-The Beginning (Reply to #744354, Reply to #744116, Reply to #744100, R*) (1 reply) CO>SC>Thanks, I appreciate that, but if you want to post something to CO>someone CO>SC>else about it just put !!!Spoiler Alert!!! as the first line and anyone CO>SC>who hasn't been up to date on their viewing can just skip that episode. CO>Ik. Just putting Spoiler Alert is utterly useless; they can't tell what CO>it's a spoiler alert for without reading it. CO>At the very least, you should stick a blank page or two, and at the top CO>of the blank, a spoiler alert and the title of the show (putting babylon CO>five somewhere in there would help too). I would assume he would put B-5 in the message subject. As far as putting a blank page or two, not knowing the size of the boards hard drive, I didn't want to make a suggestion like that for fear of causing trouble for the Sysops. Otherwise it is a good idea. * OLX 2.1 TD * Pity the donkey with 138 IQ. Nobody likes a smart ass. Date: Monday, February 2, 1998 4:58pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve C Msg#: 744432 To: Steve Flur Re: B5-The Beginning (Reply to #744365, Reply to #744332, Reply to #744286, R*) (1 reply) SF>SC>SF>Just give a holler when you either a) see a video or b) get cable. SF>SC>Ok, you've got it. SF>Hopefully before the millenium! But.... Millenium is on Fox! I don't need cable for that. :) * OLX 2.1 TD * Cluttered desk means cluttered mind. Empty desk means...? Date: Monday, February 2, 1998 11:43pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Conundrum Msg#: 744441 To: Steve Flur Re: star trek (Reply to #744366, Reply to #744353, Reply to #744101, R*) (1 reply) SF>CO>But...enough to be worth commenting on. SF>Any opinion on the prequal movie and the newest season? I STILL haven't seen the prequal movie, and since I've only seen one ep (the first one) of the newest season, I can't really offer an opinion on that. On the other hand, I'll probably catch up on B5 some when I visit Lisa's place this weekend, so we'll see. Date: Monday, February 2, 1998 11:48pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Conundrum Msg#: 744442 To: Steve C Re: B5-The Beginning (Reply to #744376, Reply to #744354, Reply to #744116, R*) (1 reply) SC>I would assume he would put B-5 in the message subject. Bab 5, yes, but putting the title of the show is just as important. I WANT to see stuff containing spoilers for shows I have seen. I DON"T want to see stuff containing spoilers for shows I haven't seen. One must be able to tell the difference, and the titles are usually pretty memorable on B5. SC>As far as putting a blank page or two, not knowing the size of the SC>boards hard drive, I didn't want to make a suggestion like that for fear SC>of causing trouble for the Sysops. Otherwise it is a good idea. No offence, but do you also think that you can shrink the size of your WP documents on your drive by using a smaller font? A page of whitespace takes up 25-50 bytes -- one byte per carriage return character (plus one for each newline, since dos uses both characters to "go to the next line and then go to the beginning of the line, if it stores it in dos standard text format). This is less than a single line of text, like the asterisks which were surrounding the "Spoiler Alert" in the original proposal. Date: Tuesday, February 3, 1998 9:23am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 744452 To: Steve C Re: B5-The Beginning (Reply to #744432, Reply to #744365, Reply to #744332, R*) (1 reply) SC>SF>SC>SF>Just give a holler when you either a) see a video or b) get cable. SC>SF>SC>Ok, you've got it. SC>SF>Hopefully before the millenium! SC>But.... Millenium is on Fox! I don't need cable for that. :) SC> * OLX 2.1 TD * Cluttered desk means cluttered mind. Empty desk means...? Good one!!!!!! Date: Tuesday, February 3, 1998 9:25am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 744453 To: Conundrum Re: star trek (Reply to #744441, Reply to #744366, Reply to #744353, R*) CO>SF>CO>But...enough to be worth commenting on. CO>SF>Any opinion on the prequal movie and the newest season? CO>I STILL haven't seen the prequal movie, and since I've only seen one ep CO>(the first one) of the newest season, I can't really offer an opinion on CO>that. On the other hand, I'll probably catch up on B5 some when I visit CO>Lisa's place this weekend, so we'll see. When you do feel free to express your opinions. We will just have to warn Steve C not to read. Date: Tuesday, February 3, 1998 5:14pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve C Msg#: 744466 To: Conundrum Re: B5-The Beginning (Reply to #744442, Reply to #744376, Reply to #744354, R*) (1 reply) CO>SC>I would assume he would put B-5 in the message subject. CO>Bab 5, yes, but putting the title of the show is just as important. I CO>WANT to see stuff containing spoilers for shows I have seen. I DON"T CO>want to see stuff containing spoilers for shows I haven't seen. One CO>must be able to tell the difference, and the titles are usually pretty CO>memorable on B5. Ok something like Subject: Babylon 5 **Spoilers for "The Long Night of Londo Mollari** CO>SC>As far as putting a blank page or two, not knowing the size of the CO>SC>boards hard drive, I didn't want to make a suggestion like that for fear CO>SC>of causing trouble for the Sysops. Otherwise it is a good idea. CO>No offence, but do you also think that you can shrink the size of your CO>WP documents on your drive by using a smaller font? A page of CO>whitespace takes up 25-50 bytes -- one byte per carriage return character CO>(plus one for each newline, since dos uses both characters to "go to the CO>next line and then go to the beginning of the line, if it stores it in CO>dos standard text format). This is less than a single line of text, CO>like the asterisks which were surrounding the "Spoiler Alert" in the CO>original proposal. No offense taken. I didn't realize it took so little to do that. (on another board I was on, the Sysop went through the roof when you did things like that, so I thought it took up a lot of space) * OLX 2.1 TD * Experience usually comes from bad judgement. Date: Tuesday, February 3, 1998 5:14pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve C Msg#: 744468 To: Steve Flur Re: B5-The Beginning (Reply to #744452, Reply to #744432, Reply to #744365, R*) (1 reply) SF>C>SF>SC>SF>Just give a holler when you either a) see a video or b) get cable SF>SC>SF>SC>Ok, you've got it. SF>SC>SF>Hopefully before the millenium! SF>SC>But.... Millenium is on Fox! I don't need cable for that. :) SF>Good one!!!!!! Thanks, I try :) * OLX 2.1 TD * Press "+" to see another tagline. Date: Tuesday, February 3, 1998 11:25pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Conundrum Msg#: 744478 To: Steve C Re: B5-The Beginning (Reply to #744466, Reply to #744442, Reply to #744376, R*) (1 reply) SC>Ok something like SC> Subject: Babylon 5 SC>**Spoilers for "The Long Night of Londo Mollari** Yes, this was exactly what I was referring to (and effective enough that after I saw that line, I had to think before I hit , since I haven't seen that episode yet). SC>CO>SC>As far as putting a blank page or two, not knowing the size of the SC>CO>SC>boards hard drive, I didn't want to make a suggestion like that for fe SC>CO>SC>of causing trouble for the Sysops. Otherwise it is a good idea. SC>CO>No offence, but do you also think that you can shrink the size of your SC>CO>WP documents on your drive by using a smaller font? A page of SC>CO>whitespace takes up 25-50 bytes -- one byte per carriage return characte SC>No offense taken. SC>I didn't realize it took so little to do that. (on another board I was SC>on, the Sysop went through the roof when you did things like that, so I SC>thought it took up a lot of space) Sounds like a REALLY Clueless sysop, or one with an incredibly clueless BBS system (unlikely, I think). I'd be inclined to believe the former. Date: Wednesday, February 4, 1998 9:46am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 744490 To: Steve C Re: B5-The Beginning (Reply to #744468, Reply to #744452, Reply to #744432, R*) SC>SF>C>SF>SC>SF>Just give a holler when you either a) see a video or b) get ca SC>SF>SC>SF>SC>Ok, you've got it. SC>SF>SC>SF>Hopefully before the millenium! SC>SF>SC>But.... Millenium is on Fox! I don't need cable for that. :) SC>SF>Good one!!!!!! SC>Thanks, I try :) SC> * OLX 2.1 TD * Press "+" to see another tagline. And for your next act.... Date: Wednesday, February 4, 1998 4:58pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve C Msg#: 744500 To: Conundrum Re: B5-The Beginning (Reply to #744478, Reply to #744466, Reply to #744442, R*) CO>SC>Ok something like CO>SC> Subject: Babylon 5 CO>SC>**Spoilers for "The Long Night of Londo Mollari** CO>Yes, this was exactly what I was referring to (and effective enough that CO>after I saw that line, I had to think before I hit , since I CO>haven't seen that episode yet). Ok, I like this also. CO>SC>No offense taken. CO>SC>I didn't realize it took so little to do that. (on another board I was CO>SC>on, the Sysop went through the roof when you did things like that, so I CO>SC>thought it took up a lot of space) CO>Sounds like a REALLY Clueless sysop, or one with an incredibly clueless CO>BBS system (unlikely, I think). I'd be inclined to believe the former. Well... He killed 2 new hard drives in a short period of time before deciding to close the board so you may be right. * OLX 2.1 TD * If this were an actual tagline, it would be funny. Date: Saturday, June 20, 1998 11:31pm Forum: ScienceFiction From: Alexie Msg#: 746877 To: ** ALL ** Re: SciFi Books (2 replies) I have been reading the Wheel of Time and the Sword of Truth series. I mostly like fansaty books, long and descriptive I am looking for SciFi books of this calliber (I enjoyed Battlefield Eart - L. Ron Hubbard). If you have any in mind, please let me know. Alexie Date: Monday, June 22, 1998 11:26am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Steve Flur Msg#: 746912 To: Alexie Re: SciFi Books (Reply to #746877) AL>I have been reading the Wheel of Time and the Sword AL>of Truth series. I mostly like fansaty books, long and descriptive AL>I am looking for SciFi books of this calliber (I enjoyed AL>Battlefield Eart - L. Ron Hubbard). If you have any in mind, AL>please let me know. AL>Alexie Have you tried the "Dune" series by the late Frank Herbert? There are six books in all and some time in the future his son is supposed to come out with soome new ones. Date: Wednesday, July 1, 1998 1:30am Forum: ScienceFiction From: Conundrum Msg#: 747000 To: Alexie Re: SciFi Books (Reply to #746877) AL>I have been reading the Wheel of Time and the Sword AL>of Truth series. I mostly like fansaty books, long and descriptive AL>I am looking for SciFi books of this calliber (I enjoyed AL>Battlefield Eart - L. Ron Hubbard). If you have any in mind, AL>please let me know. No offense, but if what you Like is the long, winding, and unoriginal sagas, finding books of that caliber is going to be rather easy. Now, on the other hand, if you want some better books, you might want to check out the works of Brust, Mckillip, De Lint, Wrede, Diane Wynne Jones, John M. Ford, and Tim Powers (among others)... you'll never look back. End of list! Select a Sysop option (R,W,F,T,S,M,E,A,O,X to exit or ? for menu):